Twitter: Statement from Vegas Police regarding Zeke's incident

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No. I'm a 40+ year old Englishman that has never been to a bar.....
Apparently........

Every time I've seen a security officer pushed, the guy was taken away in handcuffs. Just general practice. Seen that actually happen through the years maybe 8 or 10 times or so. I've never seen anyone shove security and get away w/ it.
 

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I will say this, seeing how Zeke was behaving with the girl in this video has me rethinking my stance on his previous incident. I can now 100% believe, especially if he was drunk, that he got aggressive with the other girl at some point even IF she was no saint.

Zeke needs to stay away from the alcohol.
 

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After watching the video footage in its entirety, I don’t think Zeke will face legal or NFL consequences. But I do have several observations which concern me:
  • Although Zeke didn’t get arrested, his behavior looks like a reckless teenager rather than a grown man.
  • Arguing with someone is not a crime, and although no punches or clear shoves seem to have occurred, he does appear to be physically aggressive or at the very least physically reckless.
  • If having too much to drink makes you reckless and more physically aggressive, maybe you shouldn’t drink in public.
  • This is one of three videos I have seen of Zeke in public where he seems uninhibited about his physical behavior. The last one I saw also occurred in a Dallas bar where an altercation occurred with a bartender. Again, no charges were filed, but it seems to fit a pattern of reckless behavior in public when alcohol was involved.
I’ve read all the defenses of Zeke that he “didn’t do anything wrong”. But as a Dad, if I saw my son acting the way Zeke acted in that video, I would be all over him to stop acting like a fool in public. Stop acting like a 16 year old high school kid and start acting like a grown man. The same defenses I read about Zeke “just having fun” are as immature as Zeke’s behavior.

When I go to a public event like a concert, movie or sporting event where I have paid to see an event, I expect people at that event to have some respect for the surrounding public. We all have been at a game where some obnoxious drunk thinks he’s funny with his loud, sophomoric behavior like yelling f bombs at a baseball game, or talking loudly at a movie or concert. If you want to do that at a private party, fine. But if you pull that kind of immature obnoxious behavior at a public event, you deserve to be removed. If you think we should all wink at someone actin’ a fool in public, you have some growing up to do yourself.

IMO, Zeke shouldn’t be suspended or this behavior. But he needs to grow up and start acting like a grown man instead of an immature fool.
I agree.
1 - A 23 year old man baby that’s been handed several millions of dollars.
2 - A 23 year old millionaire man baby that’s slap full of testosterone. I don’t think that he or a lot of the NFL players do steroids much anymore because of the PED testing is pretty regularly done. But there allowances for the amount of testosterone levels allowed in there body before it’s considered over the limit is different than normal peoples levels. So it may not be unheard of for these players to get injections. Him being a young athlete he may have high levels naturally.
3 - A 23 year old millionaire man baby that’s full of testosterone and likes to drink and party. Our FO knew this when they drafted him.

The age, money, and booze is a scary mixture when he is a little on the immature side. After everything that’s already happened to him you would think he would steer clear of those situations. Hope it was just booze. We know he likes to smoke and the random yearly drug tests are coming up. Actually he may have already been tested and passed. But doing this in public may spur the NFL to test him again.
 

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Apparently........

Every time I've seen a security officer pushed, the guy was taken away in handcuffs. Just general practice. Seen that actually happen through the years maybe 8 or 10 times or so. I've never seen anyone shove security and get away w/ it.
Not arguing with you, just a couple stories from my personal experience working security at large music events and smaller clubs.

At one concert there was a belligerent drunk who was annoying everyone around him. When one of the other security officers asked him to keep it down the dude threw a punch and hit the security guard in the face. It took all of about 5 seconds for several of us to manhandle him and literally throw him about 10 feet out of the venue and on his face. No cops were involved and no one cared enough to get them involved. I do believe the guy tried to sue the company because he got a little dinged up and his glasses broke but nothing ever came of it.

On another occasion, I was breaking up a fight between two plastered guys. I grabbed the guy who was the aggressor and kind of bear hugged him from behind, I had full control of him when a police officer ran in and pepper sprayed him in the face and I caught the bulk of it since my face was right next to him. The pepper spray was completely unnecessary and even though PD was involved there were no arrests made.

I’ve also been on the other side and received a PI and a public misconduct for fighting, in which I was pepper sprayed by police and taken to jail.

Point is, there are several ways this could have turned out and usually it’s up to the discretion of police and/or security. The people who claim Zeke did nothing wrong or couldn’t have been intoxicated because he wasn’t arrested are absolutely clueless.
 

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He has a huge target on his back and he doesn't seem to care

He likes to party way too much and he also seems to have a anger issue

I am more inclined to believe the first girl at this point..... he won't listen to common sense

He has had drug issues since OSU and fans like @Future want to ignore it call us names for not condoning it on our team

Zeke will have more issues in the future if he doesn't get help..... people willing to risk what he has to party no longer have control of their demons or feel untouchable because of their successes
Nor should he care.

You are making stuff up. Taking molly at a party in college isn't a drug issue.

You can dislike his behavior all you want, but call it what it is.
 

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lol - thanks for the nonsensical depiction of my thoughts. I don't care about Joe Schmo getting arrested, so what's the difference with Zeke? Obviously it's that he is a valued member of the Dallas Cowboys who I have been a fan of for almost 50 years. But why go with the logical explanation of why I care when you can go with the nonsensical emotional option?

I don't recall you asking me before, so you can't be asking again, but if there is proof the guy used the N-word it makes some difference, but we don't have that proof, and Zeke was still acting erratically and being an ******* to the girl even aside from what happened with the security guard. Zeke has to be smart enough to stay away from situations that could lead to problems. And that's the bottom line of it all. If a person makes smart decisions he wont regularly find himself in bad situations like Zeke does.

As for your last comment, do you think it helps Zeke's image to suggest he is that much of an idiot sober? Nobody really cares that he drank too much, it's the acting like an idiot part that is the problem.
I literally asked you in a post you quoted.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Yes, athletes are celebrities, but it is an indictment of YOU, not of Zeke, if you care about that video. It's clickbait and heavily edited so as to be misleading.

You are making assumptions that you know he was sloppy drunk. You don't know anything, and don't know what the security guard said/did. Is it stupid if Zeke got in his face b/c the guard called him the N word?
I always thought that you don't actually read posts you respond to, thank you for confirming.
Yes, Future has suggested that Zeke may not have been impaired.
No I didn't, stop putting words in my mouth. What I said was that you don't know if he was "sloppy drunk." What was his BAC?

It is a highly edited clickbait video. You think editors don't try to find clips to make him look more impaired than he is?
 

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I literally asked you in a post you quoted.

I always thought that you don't actually read posts you respond to, thank you for confirming.

No I didn't, stop putting words in my mouth. What I said was that you don't know if he was "sloppy drunk." What was his BAC?

It is a highly edited clickbait video. You think editors don't try to find clips to make him look more impaired than he is?

"Highly edited" LOL
 

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The real problem with this is there are many people waiting for him to do the next dumb thing and this serves to fuel that fire. I didn't see anything in that video to warrant a suspension but wandering around drunk at 3am is just asking for it.

Those thinking that Goodell is going to take action, or even wants to, need to get a grip. You do understand that he's not even involved in these situations until it gets passed up to him with recommendations? If you are going to keep blaming this guy and accusing him of a vendetta against Booger or the Cowboys, which even Booger seems fine with him now, at least find out what the hell he does.

Goodell is the judge once everyone beneath the judge has done their job to bring a recommendation to him, just as that panel of 4 did with the DV issue. He's not out to get anyone unless they cast any kind of shadow on the $ known as the NFL. Do you honestly think the man wants to deal with this crap that tarnished the image and his main job is to insure the league max's out the money and do you think they stand a better chance with the ratings guarantee team in full form or not?

And when Zeke is not disciplined, the Joneses will breathe a sigh of relief and not do anything about it until he does the next dumb thing and gets videoed.

While you're thinking up your little vendetta do you think one reason that the Cowboys seem to find themselves in this spot more than other teams is because they invite it? And consider that the owner of the Cowboys, instead of policing his own, suggested they just do away with the laws. That pot law is federal law and the NFL gets a look away on anti-trust from congress, how in the hell do you think that would fly?
 

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I literally asked you in a post you quoted.

I always thought that you don't actually read posts you respond to, thank you for confirming.

No I didn't, stop putting words in my mouth. What I said was that you don't know if he was "sloppy drunk." What was his BAC?

It is a highly edited clickbait video. You think editors don't try to find clips to make him look more impaired than he is?

Lol - so arguing that I don't know that he was impaired isn't the same as say he may not have been impaired? You'll have to explain that distinction.

I'm sorry buddy, but you are desperately trying to make excuses for stupid behavior. We all would love Zeke to be a model citizen, but he is not. Zeke has to be responsible for his own actions, and if this bites him on the butt with a fine and or a suspension it will be Zeke that is to blame, not the league or the security guard or fans on a website.

I'll pose the question to you that I put out earlier. If this happened with your 23 year old son, would your comment to him be "you're young, so it's okay to act like this in public and run the risk of being arrested ", or would it be "you have a great life and career ahead of you, and you don't want to jeopardize that by making bad choices and putting yourself in bad situations"?
 
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Nor should he care.

You are making stuff up. Taking molly at a party in college isn't a drug issue.

You can dislike his behavior all you want, but call it what it is.
Actually it is when you are on scholarship and it clearly didn't stop in college

Take off your Cowboys goggles if you want to talk about keeping it real

Denial is all you have.... dude has a problem with partying/drugs/women
 

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The problem with this video was Zeke's behavior towards that girl. Obviously, what he was attempting to do to the security guard (he didn't flop, stop saying he did) wasn't good either, but him being persistent and not allowing that girl to leave lends some credibility to his previous accuser.

Would not shock me if in the next few months this girl posts a picture of a black and blue face and accuses Zeke of doing it. Once an abuser, always an abuser.
 

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If the guard used a racial word then I understand why he refused to press charges. Being that he is a big named athlete he wouldn’t want what he did get out to public. If this is the case then this whole thing will go away quickly...
That is no excuse...... assault is assault

If a woman calls him that can he hit her too..... no he can't
 

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You've seen the original, untouched version?

Of course it is edited. That is what TMZ's business model is.

Every single video you see on the news has parts cut out that don't matter, smooth brain. "Highly edited" - It's not like they spliced together a bunch of parts and made Zeke look bad.
 

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Actually it is when you are on scholarship and it clearly didn't stop in college

Take off your Cowboys goggles if you want to talk about keeping it real

Denial is all you have.... dude has a problem with partying/drugs/women
No it's not. A drug problem has absolutely nothing to do with being on scholarship.

I am keeping it real. I don't know what drugs/drinking he does/doesn't do, so I'm not just saying he has a drug problem.

You don' tknow this. The problem is from your perspective and solely based on the idea that you're worried about him getting suspended. Talk about perspective...
 

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see on the news has parts cut out that don't matter, smooth brain. "Highly edited" - It's not like they spliced together a bunch of parts and made Zeke
They cut out all the context lmao.

What happened in the 30 seconds before he bumped into the security guard? We don't know, because they edited that out. I'd say that matters.
 

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No it's not. A drug problem has absolutely nothing to do with being on scholarship.

I am keeping it real. I don't know what drugs/drinking he does/doesn't do, so I'm not just saying he has a drug problem.

You don' tknow this. The problem is from your perspective and solely based on the idea that you're worried about him getting suspended. Talk about perspective...
Denial is not having the facts
 

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They cut out all the context lmao.

What happened in the 30 seconds before he bumped into the security guard? We don't know, because they edited that out. I'd say that matters.
It doesn't matter at all

He shouldn't acting like that in public..... no excuses when he is one punch away from banishment
 
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