NFL and NFLPA joint agreement on pain management, potentially including marijuana

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Corso said:
I didn't say the NBA was. I was saying that they can further relax the testing policies and the government isn't going to come after the NFL.
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I think that is the reluctance of some of the owners because congress gives them a pass and they don't know who would try and make a case against them. But it they're doing this strictly along the medicinal route, I think they're good. Many states have approved that, although not the state the Cowboys are in.

I think the hidden problem in this is the message this sends down to line to the parents of the young players, high school and below. The NFL cannot be seen as approving of weed except under the guidance and supervision of a medical professional. However, the grandparents of these kids are the fastest growing and heading to be the largest demographic group of users of the product. 65+, we be rockin'.

I am a former smoker and while it may not be physically addictive, it can be emotionally and psychologically habit forming but of all the things that are, I see it as a small player. It's all about hooked on a feeling. There are some people that should never take their first hit so to say it's not a slippery slope is to understate it.

But you know what would really help all of this out? If this country would stop giving it's citizens so many damned reasons to escape reality.
 
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CouchCoach said:
I think that is the reluctance of some of the owners because congress gives them a pass and they don't know who would try and make a case against them. But it they're doing this strictly along the medicinal route, I think they're good. Many states have approved that, although not the state the Cowboys are in.

I think the hidden problem in this is the message this sends down to line to the parents of the young players, high school and below. The NFL cannot be seen as approving of weed except under the guidance and supervision of a medical professional. However, the grandparents of these kids are the fastest growing and heading to be the largest demographic group of users of the product. 65+, we be rockin'.

I am a former smoker and while it may not be physically addictive, it can be emotionally and psychologically habit forming but of all the things that are, I see it as a small player. It's all about hooked on a feeling. There are some people that should never take their first hit so to say it's not a slippery slope is to understate it.

But you know what would really help all of this out? If this country would stop giving it's citizens so many damned reasons to escape reality.
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Good post.
 
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Hardline said:
Ahhh.
The magical medicinal quality of marijuana.
It's amazing that everyone that's for it just happens to smoke it for recreational use.
If it passes you tweekers can start crying about medicinal meth.you are next in line.
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alcohol is more of a gateway drug than marijuana.
next.
 
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lockster said:
These so called old out of touch ppl. are the ones that understand the repercussions of bad endeavors. This country was founded by these types who put together the best constitution on the face of the earth to provide God given freedoms to all. They understood the downfalls of slavery, serfdom, tyrannicalism, socialism, an immoral society. Ppl. Didn't shoot each other up because they disagreed or wore the wrong colors, suicide was only for the traitors to country, didn't suffer type 2 diabetes from too much refined foods and sugar, didn't have 25 percent of the population on disabilty, the older ones had higher reading skills and deciphering of article skills. The young ppl. Beat up ppl. Going to vote, kill a million babies a year, think its alright to demand to special rights at the cost of others rights to happiness, are too proud to do a manual labor job, lack social skills because they have spent too much time on PlayStation instead of productive activities as a child, think its cool to shoot up a school full of kids, and as presidents, think it's fine to lie to all of America and then tell them how dumb they were to believe the lies. And ultimately, have no concept of objective truth, the law of non contradiction , laws of logic, consistency, and think the ends justify the means. The end of our free society is closing in, lead by the younger generation largely without morality, self restraint and responsibility, and respect for others. The younger generation has been getting by only because of the older generations work before them. Go look up the avg. Life expectancy and marriage length of ur avg. Rock star from years past that thought drug use was cool. Graveyards are full from these types and families are destroyed from this behavior. If that's progress, I'd hate to see what u think regress is. Drug use is poison to every thing it touches and only regresses a society. The founders said the constitution was only good for governing a moral ppl. And I see they were spot on. :)
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oh god. what year is this, 1860?
 
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Give someone a prescription for a highly-addictive opium based pain killer and nobody bats an eye. Suggest a natural, less addictive alternative and everybody loses their minds.

The real reason "weed" is treated as if it's a dangerous narcotic have little to do with medicine and a lot to do with the pharmaceutical industry and private prisons. The alcohol industry doesn't like competition, either.
 
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Furboy said:
I agree about moderation. My late Grandmum always preached moderation. Anything overdone is bad. However, I happen to think things like marijuana should be strictly regulated if legalized. Randy Gregory and another DE that shall not be named are prime examples of how addictive it can be. So, I don't mind the thought of legalizing it. However, I want it regulated.
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you realize legalization means regulation, right? like, that's a given. it wouldn't be sold in the candy aisle.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
There really is no question here. The Medical Profession agrees that Weed is not harmless and that there are negative effects of using. I mean, it's really only a matter of time before studies are done and if the results are negative, it's going to be a crap show IMO.
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now do alcohol and opiates.
 
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Corso said:
I still don't see how.
The NFL further relaxes their testing policy over MJ. They didn't allow it, didn't advocate it, they just relaxed their policies.

Where is the lawsuit going to come from on that?
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no where.
not an issue in the NBA.
ask a coach where they'd rather have their players: in the hotel room smoking playing video games or out at the club.
 
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Clarkson said:
no where.
not an issue in the NBA.
ask a coach where they'd rather have their players: in the hotel room smoking playing video games or out at the club.
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You're on a tear!
 
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RoboQB said:
I'll just point out that people on weed do not drive fast. If anything, they are way too slow on the road.

If we are concerned about the effects of weed, we should weigh that against the effects of the painkillers
prescribed to these athletes by team doctors and approved by the league.
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or alcohol.
it wouldn't be any more legal to drive while high than driving while drunk. this point, often brought up, is not valid.
 
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Clarkson said:
now do alcohol and opiates.
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Why? I don't believe that anybody is trying to argue that either of those are not addicting or good for you. This discussion is not about which is worse. This is about the population being sold a bill of goods about Weed that suggest it is not bad for you. In fact, studies are clearly showing that this is not even close to true.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
Why? I don't believe that anybody is trying to argue that either of those are not addicting or good for you. This discussion is not about which is worse. This is about the population being sold a bill of goods about Weed that suggest it is not bad for you. In fact, studies are clearly showing that this is not even close to true.
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plenty of studies show it to be less harmful in many ways than legal substances. it's really just not that big of a deal.
 
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