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I used to love 14th Street in downtown Denver. Now it's crawling with skateboarder types openly smoking weed everywhere. The stench of the cloud is powerful.

Don't go there anymore.
They don't have restrictions where they can smoke?
 

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Why do we care what anyone does as long as they're not harming someone else? Oh, there's their loved ones and children to consider? Do we think this being illegal stops that?

Morality will never be successfully legislated and I am sick of people who think they have the right to tell others how they should live. Do not let them infringe on the rights of others but do not restrict their rights as an individual.

Legality isn't a moral issue or a societal issue, it's a business issue and it's high time, oops another pun, it ran as a successful one and generates revenue instead of creating criminal empires just like the Oxycontin one.
Yea, I’m all for legitimizing , taxing and regulating legal sales. For the safety of all. Let it fall under the ATF.

Let wineries and distilleries diverse themselves. Much like tobacco industry did years ago.

You can pick up a 6pk, a pint and a dime bag all in one stop. Ha

Or join delivery service. Even better. ..will deliver within an hour. Lol
 

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If they legalize it in Texas, while Jerry is still alive, how long before Willie's Reserve is the "Green choice among all Cowboy's fans?"
 

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I grew up around and have been around drugs most of my life. I know the consequences. I agree marijuana is a gateway drug as well. As far as long term effects Ive known many people who haven't reported any. Id be curious out of the people who developed health problems how many of them were taking other drugs in addition to marijuana? As with most anything in life moderation is key.

I work in emergency medicine and I will tell you I can count on one hand how many calls Ive made due to marijuana. Its rare that a pot smoker dials 911 because of his habit. That of course doesn't mean it's not harmful. I agree any drug is harmful, hell look at what all the sugars and crap we put in our bodies is doing. We still enjoy a little icecream though right?

You say you only take tylenol, but these guys play through injuries for a living. Meaning be available or lose out on a contract. I think you and them live in different worlds. When the average NFL career last like 3 years and you have an opportunity to be financially secure for life you do what you have to.
Highly Potent Weed Causes Concern About Health Risks
By
Jackie Goodman
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May 20, 2019


More people in the U.S. are buying and using weed since more states began legalizing marijuana, while the kind of weed they can purchase has become even stronger.

Scientists who study marijuana and its effects on the body now have concerns, in addition to emergency room doctors who say they’re starting to see more patients coming into the ER with marijuana-associated issues.

According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 26 million Americans ages 12 and older reported that they were current marijuana users in 2017. Though it’s not clear how many users have experienced serious health issues from highly potent weed and many potential risks are still unknown, scientists are beginning to learn more about a few of them.

The potency of marijuana depends on the amount of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, which is the main compound that is responsible for the drug’s psychoactive effects.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration seized pot products and further did a study which found that the potency had increased from nearly four percent THC in 1995 to roughly 12 percent in 2014. By 2017, another study discovered the potency of illicit drug samples increased to 17.1 percent THC.

“That’s an increase of more than 300% from 1995 to about 2017,” says Staci Gruber, director of the Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program at the Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass. “I would say that’s a considerable increase.”

Products with concentrated forms of cannabis, such as hash and hash oil, can have as much as 80% to 90% THC, she adds. “I think most people are aware of the phenomenon that ‘this is not your grand daddy’s weed,’ Gruber says. “I hear this all the time.”

Some people might not be aware of the potential health risks of highly potent weed. Gruber said that the negative effects of cannabis have primarily been isolated and localized to THC, so higher levels of THC may, in fact, have a greater risk for a more negative outcome.

“In general, people think, ‘Oh, I don’t have to worry about marijuana. It’s a safe drug,’ ” says Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. “The notion that it is a completely safe drug is incorrect when you start to address the consequences of this very high content of 9THC.”

“When someone takes marijuana at a low [THC] content to relax and to stone out, actually, it decreases your anxiety,” she says. But high concentrations can cause panic attacks, and if someone consumes high-enough levels of THC, “you become full-blown psychotic and paranoid.”

Marijuana can also have a similar paradoxical effect on the vascular system. “If you take low-content THC it will increase your blood flow, but high content [THC] can produce massive vasoconstriction, it decreases the flow through the vessels,” Volkow said.

Low concentrations of THC can be used to treat nausea symptoms in cancer patients who are undergoing chemotherapy. However, Volkow says that “patients that consume high content THC chronically came to the emergency department with a syndrome where they couldn’t stop vomiting and with intense abdominal pain.” This condition is called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

“The typical patient uses [inhales] about 10 times per day … and they come in with really difficult to treat nausea and vomiting,” says Andrew Monte, an associate professor of emergency medicine and medical toxicology at the University of Colorado’s school of medicine. “Some people have died from this … syndrome, so that is concerning.”

While the number of people who’ve had the syndrome is small and scientists are unsure what amount of THC can trigger it, Monte says he and his colleagues documented an increase of cases at emergency rooms in Colorado since marijuana was legalized there five years ago. Monte and his team also found that cyclical vomiting cases made up about 18% of inhaled cannabis-related cases at his ER.

Monte says his ER has “seen an approximately a three-fold increase in emergency department visits just by frequency. It doesn’t mean we’re getting overwhelmed by these visits due to cannabis, it’s just that means that there are more patients overall.”

Most patients show up at the ER due to “intoxication” from too much marijuana, while the majority of these cases are from inhaling cannabis, though consuming edibles are mainly associated with more psychiatric visits.

“We’re seeing an increase in psychosis and hallucinations, as well as anxiety and even depression and suicidality,” Monte says.

“Whenever you have a higher dose of one of these types of drugs, the patient is at a higher risk of having an adverse drug event. If the concentration is so much higher … it’s much easier to overshoot the low-level high that they’re looking for.”

https://filthylucre.com/highly-potent-weed-health-risks/
 

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If they legalize it in Texas, while Jerry is still alive, how long before Willie's Reserve is the "Green choice among all Cowboy's fans?"
It’s difficult seeing Texas going green.

It will probably have to happen nationally before all states will concede.
 

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Highly Potent Weed Causes Concern About Health Risks
By
Jackie Goodman
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May 20, 2019


More people in the U.S. are buying and using weed since more states began legalizing marijuana, while the kind of weed they can purchase has become even stronger.

Scientists who study marijuana and its effects on the body now have concerns, in addition to emergency room doctors who say they’re starting to see more patients coming into the ER with marijuana-associated issues.

According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 26 million Americans ages 12 and older reported that they were current marijuana users in 2017. Though it’s not clear how many users have experienced serious health issues from highly potent weed and many potential risks are still unknown, scientists are beginning to learn more about a few of them.

The potency of marijuana depends on the amount of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, which is the main compound that is responsible for the drug’s psychoactive effects.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration seized pot products and further did a study which found that the potency had increased from nearly four percent THC in 1995 to roughly 12 percent in 2014. By 2017, another study discovered the potency of illicit drug samples increased to 17.1 percent THC.

“That’s an increase of more than 300% from 1995 to about 2017,” says Staci Gruber, director of the Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program at the Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass. “I would say that’s a considerable increase.”

Products with concentrated forms of cannabis, such as hash and hash oil, can have as much as 80% to 90% THC, she adds. “I think most people are aware of the phenomenon that ‘this is not your grand daddy’s weed,’ Gruber says. “I hear this all the time.”

Some people might not be aware of the potential health risks of highly potent weed. Gruber said that the negative effects of cannabis have primarily been isolated and localized to THC, so higher levels of THC may, in fact, have a greater risk for a more negative outcome.

“In general, people think, ‘Oh, I don’t have to worry about marijuana. It’s a safe drug,’ ” says Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. “The notion that it is a completely safe drug is incorrect when you start to address the consequences of this very high content of 9THC.”

“When someone takes marijuana at a low [THC] content to relax and to stone out, actually, it decreases your anxiety,” she says. But high concentrations can cause panic attacks, and if someone consumes high-enough levels of THC, “you become full-blown psychotic and paranoid.”

Marijuana can also have a similar paradoxical effect on the vascular system. “If you take low-content THC it will increase your blood flow, but high content [THC] can produce massive vasoconstriction, it decreases the flow through the vessels,” Volkow said.

Low concentrations of THC can be used to treat nausea symptoms in cancer patients who are undergoing chemotherapy. However, Volkow says that “patients that consume high content THC chronically came to the emergency department with a syndrome where they couldn’t stop vomiting and with intense abdominal pain.” This condition is called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

“The typical patient uses [inhales] about 10 times per day … and they come in with really difficult to treat nausea and vomiting,” says Andrew Monte, an associate professor of emergency medicine and medical toxicology at the University of Colorado’s school of medicine. “Some people have died from this … syndrome, so that is concerning.”

While the number of people who’ve had the syndrome is small and scientists are unsure what amount of THC can trigger it, Monte says he and his colleagues documented an increase of cases at emergency rooms in Colorado since marijuana was legalized there five years ago. Monte and his team also found that cyclical vomiting cases made up about 18% of inhaled cannabis-related cases at his ER.

Monte says his ER has “seen an approximately a three-fold increase in emergency department visits just by frequency. It doesn’t mean we’re getting overwhelmed by these visits due to cannabis, it’s just that means that there are more patients overall.”

Most patients show up at the ER due to “intoxication” from too much marijuana, while the majority of these cases are from inhaling cannabis, though consuming edibles are mainly associated with more psychiatric visits.

“We’re seeing an increase in psychosis and hallucinations, as well as anxiety and even depression and suicidality,” Monte says.

“Whenever you have a higher dose of one of these types of drugs, the patient is at a higher risk of having an adverse drug event. If the concentration is so much higher … it’s much easier to overshoot the low-level high that they’re looking for.”

https://filthylucre.com/highly-potent-weed-health-risks/
I tried that Hydro when it first came out about 20 years ago. Wayyyyyy too potent. One or two hits and your a zombie. No fun...
 

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it's illegal to have more than 1 beer in an hour? uhhh, citation, please?
are you missing the irony of your post, tho? legalizing and regulating it would lead to knowing *exactly* what's in the product and how strong it is.
alcohol is more dangerous for a multitude of reasons. this is dinosaur thought you're spewing.
please cite the recent studies you speak of, as well.

Yes. Depending on the level of intoxication, state to state, it is illegal. Can't get behind the wheel and technically, it's public intoxication so yeah, it's illegal.

Here is an article from the Boston Globe from Oct 2015:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazin...na-harmless/MneQebFPWg79ifTAXc1PkM/story.html

NIH article on effects:

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicati...a/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

Article on a 20 year study of weed:

https://www.fool.com/investing/gene...study-on-marijuana-use-yields-5-surprisi.aspx


Now, before we go down this path, I have no interest in a discussion of weed vs drink vs whatever else. There are plenty of forums that will willingly engage in that discussion. This one is about football and I am interested in discussing this issue, in context of sports.
 

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"Mental Health Professional". Is it going to be a psychologist or a psychiatrist? I'm guessing the latter. Unfortunate.
For a minute I thought you were being funny but I just out , apparently, there’s a difference between the two. Thanks for the enlightenment.
 

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other drugs?
i don't think either are "gateway" drugs. tons of people do one, the other, or both and never do any other drugs. if you're going to start using meth, it isn't because weed led you there.
opiates are HUGE gateways to things like heroin, tho. heroin is the same feeling but way cheaper and way easier to get. keeping people off opiates should be a way bigger focus. i wonder why it isn't...huge mystery.

Not really all that mysterious IMO.
 

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Highly Potent Weed Causes Concern About Health Risks
By
Jackie Goodman
-
May 20, 2019


More people in the U.S. are buying and using weed since more states began legalizing marijuana, while the kind of weed they can purchase has become even stronger.

Scientists who study marijuana and its effects on the body now have concerns, in addition to emergency room doctors who say they’re starting to see more patients coming into the ER with marijuana-associated issues.

According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 26 million Americans ages 12 and older reported that they were current marijuana users in 2017. Though it’s not clear how many users have experienced serious health issues from highly potent weed and many potential risks are still unknown, scientists are beginning to learn more about a few of them.

The potency of marijuana depends on the amount of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, which is the main compound that is responsible for the drug’s psychoactive effects.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration seized pot products and further did a study which found that the potency had increased from nearly four percent THC in 1995 to roughly 12 percent in 2014. By 2017, another study discovered the potency of illicit drug samples increased to 17.1 percent THC.

“That’s an increase of more than 300% from 1995 to about 2017,” says Staci Gruber, director of the Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program at the Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass. “I would say that’s a considerable increase.”

Products with concentrated forms of cannabis, such as hash and hash oil, can have as much as 80% to 90% THC, she adds. “I think most people are aware of the phenomenon that ‘this is not your grand daddy’s weed,’ Gruber says. “I hear this all the time.”

Some people might not be aware of the potential health risks of highly potent weed. Gruber said that the negative effects of cannabis have primarily been isolated and localized to THC, so higher levels of THC may, in fact, have a greater risk for a more negative outcome.

“In general, people think, ‘Oh, I don’t have to worry about marijuana. It’s a safe drug,’ ” says Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. “The notion that it is a completely safe drug is incorrect when you start to address the consequences of this very high content of 9THC.”

“When someone takes marijuana at a low [THC] content to relax and to stone out, actually, it decreases your anxiety,” she says. But high concentrations can cause panic attacks, and if someone consumes high-enough levels of THC, “you become full-blown psychotic and paranoid.”

Marijuana can also have a similar paradoxical effect on the vascular system. “If you take low-content THC it will increase your blood flow, but high content [THC] can produce massive vasoconstriction, it decreases the flow through the vessels,” Volkow said.

Low concentrations of THC can be used to treat nausea symptoms in cancer patients who are undergoing chemotherapy. However, Volkow says that “patients that consume high content THC chronically came to the emergency department with a syndrome where they couldn’t stop vomiting and with intense abdominal pain.” This condition is called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

“The typical patient uses [inhales] about 10 times per day … and they come in with really difficult to treat nausea and vomiting,” says Andrew Monte, an associate professor of emergency medicine and medical toxicology at the University of Colorado’s school of medicine. “Some people have died from this … syndrome, so that is concerning.”

While the number of people who’ve had the syndrome is small and scientists are unsure what amount of THC can trigger it, Monte says he and his colleagues documented an increase of cases at emergency rooms in Colorado since marijuana was legalized there five years ago. Monte and his team also found that cyclical vomiting cases made up about 18% of inhaled cannabis-related cases at his ER.

Monte says his ER has “seen an approximately a three-fold increase in emergency department visits just by frequency. It doesn’t mean we’re getting overwhelmed by these visits due to cannabis, it’s just that means that there are more patients overall.”

Most patients show up at the ER due to “intoxication” from too much marijuana, while the majority of these cases are from inhaling cannabis, though consuming edibles are mainly associated with more psychiatric visits.

“We’re seeing an increase in psychosis and hallucinations, as well as anxiety and even depression and suicidality,” Monte says.

“Whenever you have a higher dose of one of these types of drugs, the patient is at a higher risk of having an adverse drug event. If the concentration is so much higher … it’s much easier to overshoot the low-level high that they’re looking for.”

https://filthylucre.com/highly-potent-weed-health-risks/
AC, you drink the same amount of Wild Turkey 101 as 80 proof and you're going to feel a little different, Everclear and
probably feel dead. Caveat emptor but make sure the buyer is aware.
 

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Yes. Depending on the level of intoxication, state to state, it is illegal. Can't get behind the wheel and technically, it's public intoxication so yeah, it's illegal.

Here is an article from the Boston Globe from Oct 2015:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazin...na-harmless/MneQebFPWg79ifTAXc1PkM/story.html

NIH article on effects:

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicati...a/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

Article on a 20 year study of weed:

https://www.fool.com/investing/gene...study-on-marijuana-use-yields-5-surprisi.aspx


Now, before we go down this path, I have no interest in a discussion of weed vs drink vs whatever else. There are plenty of forums that will willingly engage in that discussion. This one is about football and I am interested in discussing this issue, in context of sports.
Ah lack to wautch fooball drunked or stoned. Ah am ambitoxicated.
 

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AC, you drink the same amount of Wild Turkey 101 as 80 proof and you're going to feel a little different, Everclear and
probably feel dead. Caveat emptor but make sure the buyer is aware.
CC old buddy, I'm all for it if it is at the low-THC level. It's got to be safe for the user (and society in general) while serving its purpose. It's got to be scientifically tested and medically regulated if it's going to be allowed for pain usage in any sport... and only for those truly medically approved in need of it.
 

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Strippers and Blow next, great to be a young NFL player these days.
 

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Society sunk into the toilet when it legalized beer and alcohol. The number one date rape substance on the face of the planet. I dont smoke or drink but still hate alcohol more than cannabis.
In your eyes, but thankfully you do not get to make the rules for everyone else.
 

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Ah lack to wautch fooball drunked or stoned. Ah am ambitoxicated.

Somebody should do a study on the effects of Jerry being the owner of the Cowboys, as related to the fan base. Based on this post, it's obvious that the effects are starting to have a detrimental effect.
 

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Of course there was no mention of marijuana. Complete click bait thread.
there needs to be no mention of marijuana. It is as plain as day what this is about. Owners are tired of losing players to a drug that will be legal in all states in a few years. Sorry you are not going to be happy when Marijuana is legal.
 

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CC old buddy, I'm all for it if it is at the low-THC level. It's got to be safe for the user (and society in general) while serving its purpose. It's got to be scientifically tested and medically regulated if it's going to be allowed for pain usage in any sport... and only for those truly medically approved in need of it.

See, that's the thing to me. You can get TCH or Canibinoid ingrediants, which as I understand it, is what aids in a great many of the medical applications of weed, both of those things can be provided via medical prescription, with no need for smoke. I mean, it's really a fight the NFL doesn't need to get into. They can simply allow the meds for these products and avoid the smoke.
 

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there needs to be no mention of marijuana. It is as plain as day what this is about. Owners are tired of losing players to a drug that will be legal in all states in a few years. Sorry you are not going to be happy when Marijuana is legal.
Texas will not legalize marijuana anytime soon for various reasons.
 

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there needs to be no mention of marijuana. It is as plain as day what this is about. Owners are tired of losing players to a drug that will be legal in all states in a few years. Sorry you are not going to be happy when Marijuana is legal.
Obviously you missed me advocating legalizing .
 
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