NFL and NFLPA joint agreement on pain management, potentially including marijuana

CowboysWillRise said:

You do you brother. Ive done your job on the side and its physical as hell. I have my own injuries from work and I dont smoke either. I also dont take pain meds and still I get by. There's no doubt one can "get by" without, but thats not really the point. Its about quality of life.

A good majority of medicines come with long term effects, just like acetaminophen. I also agree most start smoking for the high. Still that doesn't mean there aren't other benefits.

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And you're a hero. A true hero. You've saved lives!
I am humbled. I only entertain...

I'd be fascinated to have some conversations with you.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Do you have a beer in your hand right now?

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I do not as I do not drink beer.

rags747 said:

I do not as I do not drink beer.

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Yup... they're handed to me. Why yes! I shall drink your beer! Thank you!

one of my close family members did drug abuse research in the 80's and 90's that included drugs such as pot (delta-9-thc), cocaine, alcohol, nicotine and salt.
this research was supported by nida, a part of nih.

i think there were about 10-20 top university teams, and funds came from nih and the dod.
these groups presented their results in conferences ran by the federal government.
the amazing thing was that these groups concluded pot was by far the least harmful out of the 5.
considering that salt, nicotine and alcohol are legal, that is pretty strange.
of course, their research was suppressed by the agencies that funded the research.
these teams pretty much lost interest in the work due to the government agenda.

i personally do not smoke, drink (other than as courtesy in business setting) or even gamble.
i do hope we get gregory back next year with his cheap 2 year contract.

America's Cowboy said:

Fist bump. Retired firefighter paramedic here as well.

Maybe it's because of where you live that you've only experienced a handful of calls of cannabis overdose in 13 years? I live in deep South Texas. Experienced lots of calls of cannabis overdose due to extremely high THC levels and/or spiked with other drugs. Seen plenty of effects, how addictive it is, how it has been a gateway drug to stronger more dangerous illegal drugs, how it has destroyed families, led to criminal lifestyles, how it has negatively impacted society all along the border and corrupted officials/judges/attorneys/police/etc... and worse. All because it starts off as a way to "get high", which eventually leads to a habit, addiction, then worse.

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I work for Houston fire so I am exposed to anything and everything. I grew up around addiction and saw friends and family members ruin there lives. Im not advocating for drug use. Im advocating for the therapeutic usage of marijuana as opposed to opiates. Im choosing the lesser of two evils. I think CBD oil would be a great start, although that means they cant do urine tests.

Corso said:

And you're a hero. A true hero. You've saved lives!
I am humbled. I only entertain...

I'd be fascinated to have some conversations with you.

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Aw thanks buddy, Im humbled to be in a position to help. Id also venture to guess your words have helped to shape and influence lives. Id be really interested to know what exactly you've done?

CowboysWillRise said:

Aw thanks buddy, Im humbled to be in a position to help. Id also venture to guess your words have helped to shape and influence lives. Id be really interested to know what exactly you've done?

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Not on a public forum.
And thank you.
Maybe I've given a sad person a smile, or a laugh. I certainly haven't saved anyone though.

waldoputty said:

one of my close family members did drug abuse research in the 80's and 90's that included drugs such as pot (delta-9-thc), cocaine, alcohol, nicotine and salt.
this research was supported by nida, a part of nih.

i think there were about 10-20 top university teams, and funds came from nih and the dod.
these groups presented their results in conferences ran by the federal government.
the amazing thing was that these groups concluded pot was by far the least harmful out of the 5.
considering that salt, nicotine and alcohol are legal, that is pretty strange.
of course, their research was suppressed by the agencies that funded the research.
these teams pretty much lost interest in the work due to the government agenda.

i personally do not smoke, drink (other than as courtesy in business setting) or even gamble.
i do hope we get gregory back next year with his cheap 2 year contract.

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THC levels in the 80s - 90s were 17x less in pot than it is today. Big difference which today would give one much worse results.

"joint" agreement is a classic but true title. lol...Straight to the point eh...lol

waldoputty said:

one of my close family members did drug abuse research in the 80's and 90's that included drugs such as pot (delta-9-thc), cocaine, alcohol, nicotine and salt.
this research was supported by nida, a part of nih.

i think there were about 10-20 top university teams, and funds came from nih and the dod.
these groups presented their results in conferences ran by the federal government.
the amazing thing was that these groups concluded pot was by far the least harmful out of the 5.
considering that salt, nicotine and alcohol are legal, that is pretty strange.
of course, their research was suppressed by the agencies that funded the research.
these teams pretty much lost interest in the work due to the government agenda.

i personally do not smoke, drink (other than as courtesy in business setting) or even gamble.
i do hope we get gregory back next year with his cheap 2 year contract.

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tells me FOLLOW THE MONEY. Otherwise, alcohol ,nicotine and salt would never be legal. Yes...salt. Salt is a silent killer...as well as granulated sugar.

Rayman70 said:

tells me FOLLOW THE MONEY. Otherwise, alcohol ,nicotine and salt would never be legal. Yes...salt. Salt is a silent killer...as well as granulated sugar.

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yup

Rayman70 said:

tells me FOLLOW THE MONEY. Otherwise, alcohol ,nicotine and salt would never be legal. Yes...salt. Salt is a silent killer...as well as granulated sugar.

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with legalization proceeding state by state. money will soon be there as big tobacco goes in

America's Cowboy said:

THC levels in the 80s - 90s were 17x less in pot than it is today. Big difference which today would give one much worse results.

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ok that is a valid point

America's Cowboy said:

THC levels in the 80s - 90s were 17x less in pot than it is today. Big difference which today would give one much worse results.

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i thought about it and am curious why.
is that high concentration for beginners or only for those who have developed tolerance?

lockster said:

A moderate Hitler, is called a Mussolini, there is no such thing as a good bad thing, or ok bad thing. Bad things are bad and have bad effects. Lying is Damaging to society because of its consequences. Just like being a killer, just takes longer to reap what u sow usually. And leads to things that are worse. Show me a person who doesn't lie, and ill show you a person who is good in all the other aspects of their life. Show me a liar, and ill show you someone who is not good in many aspects of their lives. Thieves, murderers, drug dealers, drug users, ponzi scheme ppl. Embezzlement, adulterers, and more all will lie . Little bad things become big bad things. Its like saying, you want to drink a little lead or a lot of lead with it glass of water. just like the commercial. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step and so does the road to ruin. Show me a person that thinks its ok to be moderate in bad things, and ill show you a person that poops on his friends and society at many levels. That's what's referred to as a bad friend or person.

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We were talking about consumption in the body. You ran off on a crazy tangent and we
basically lost the topic. Oh well. No worries. I may have helped with that... lol.

I saw a post where you said you swim laps. I'd say that's probably the best form of physical therapy one can
do for themselves. I just opened my pool today and I'm looking forward to getting back to that... when the water warms up. (lol)

Rayman70 said:

tells me FOLLOW THE MONEY. Otherwise, alcohol ,nicotine and salt would never be legal. Yes...salt. Salt is a silent killer...as well as granulated sugar.

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yes, just ask the beverage industry

waldoputty said:

i thought about it and am curious why.
is that high concentration for beginners or only for those who have developed tolerance?

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HOW MARIJUANA HAS CHANGED OVER TIME
The Indian hemp plant (from which cannabis drugs like marijuana and hashish are made) was grown for use as a hallucinogen more than 2,000 years ago.




The amount of THC in the hemp plant determines the strength of the drug. The amount of THC found in marijuana is not consistent, and the level of THC has increased steadily.

By using modern techniques, hemp growers have developed types of cannabis that have much higher levels of THC than in the past. The average strength of the marijuana plant in the U.S. today is around 15–20%. The highest level found in the plant is around 32%.12

For comparison:

• The pot smoked at Woodstock in 1969 and through the late 1970s contained roughly 1% THC.13
• In 1980, it was about 1%. By 1997, the average THC content was close to 5.1%; in 2008, 10.2%.14

Increase of THC in marijuana over time
The more THC, the more psychoactive the drug and the higher the potential for abuse, addiction, and other harmful effects.

[paste:font size="4"]pot smokers tend to inhale deeply and hold the smoke as long as possible to increase the effect of the drug, worsening the damage to the lungs.

Alcohol is eliminated from the body in a few hours, but THC stays in the body for weeks, possibly months, depending on the length and intensity of usage.

THC damages the immune system. Alcohol does not.


There is no intention here to minimize the dangers of alcohol abuse, which can be equally harmful. Users, however, need to be aware that the chemicals in marijuana, some of them cancer-causing, remain in the body long after the drug is taken.

https://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/it-s-background.html

The videos at the beginning of this website link ^^^ are very informative.

agk136 said:

I believe only a psychiatrist can prescribe medication.

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I was thinking the same thing. If there's any "out" for Randy, it would be that a medical professional determined that the best course of treatment was marijuana. Psychologists are widely available to NFL athletes, but you know what isn't....medical professionals who prescribe marijuana.

America's Cowboy said:

There is no intention here to minimize the dangers of alcohol abuse, which can be equally harmful. Users, however, need to be aware that the chemicals in marijuana, some of them cancer-causing, remain in the body long after the drug is taken.

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Comparing alcohol to weed in a, "which can be equally harmful", context is minimizing the dangers of alcohol regardless of whether or not it is intended. There is no question that alcohol is more harmful.

Hoofbite said:

Comparing alcohol to weed in a, "which can be equally harmful", context is minimizing the dangers of alcohol regardless of whether or not it is intended. There is no question that alcohol is more harmful.

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Got any proof?