Dak > Brady (since Amari)

egn22 said:

I can use the same logic and say Brady needs a HOF coach to do what he does, and Dak has better stats with a much lesser coach. Your points are flimsy because the fact is Dak HAS Zeke, and a great Oline and Cooper. There’s no reason to consider what he’d be without them because he has them. That’s all that matters. You’re saying Brady is this or that, but there isn’t a Brady available! So I’m happy with Dak and all of his weapons.

And I didn’t post this to imply Dak is better than Brady. Brady is the GOAT. I posted to point out we have a capable QB that needs to be paid and extended, rather than trying to push him out, and just drafting a QB all over again.

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on the contrary we know what Dak is without them did you forget 2017!? Dak was average and struggled to get the offense to 10 points without Zeke. Did you and your dak loving brothers forget the first 8 games of last season? All you all just complai Ed he doesn't have a top WR....he was way below average...

We know when Zeke struggles... Then Dak struggles. Not the other way around.

We also know what Brady can do when given a top 10 WR...he sets all time records...he doesn't aspire to match other QBs stats he sets the trail with 50 TDs and all time s oring offense and top passing game...

Come on it's absurd to compare Dak to Brady at any level. It's an insult to Brady and it's u fair to Dak.

We will sign Dak to a large deal not because he deserves it for anything he has really done...
But it's thearket and we have no other options

The goal post has now been moved to.

Now it’s, He isn’t as good as Brady LOL so we need to get rid of him and move on.

percyhoward said:

The Cowboys allowed 273 yards rushing in the game and did not have a takeaway.

Teams that allow 250+ rushing yards and don't have a takeaway are 6-123 all time.

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I wonder what the record is for teams that go 1 for 9 on thirdtdowns offensively....

mattjames2010 said:

You responded to me in which you suggested I had a crystal ball like I made a prediction, grandpa. I did not - unless you want to quote where I did, if not, don't bother me.

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No one is as stupid as you feign being...Son.

The difference from crying about past losses, despite winning the NFC East two of the past three seasons and winning seasons for three of the past five seasons; and the top NFC regular season win record for two of those seasons....then implying the Cowboys are losers because of a group of losses during that period, well, and YOU were quoted on all of that, as you ignored the counter elements. Duh....let me repeat for the obvious biased view being retained....DUH!

Now, run along back to your playing in the street...or exchange elements in the real discussion presented. If one can....

To show function of knowledge in the current season, how about stepping up to the plate and justify how each of those teams are currently better and will beat Dallas, as you brag upon directions of failure.

Can you?

Hadenough said:

Ive already predicted those as all losses. People dont realize all those teams have gotten considerably better along with Dallas.

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I already acknowledged that at this point, all of them should be a tough opponent...what I am not accepting is because of that potential, Dallas' position at present, is diminished or less.

I look forward to those games, yes, they will be indicators as to the degree currently being developed, that these Cowboys are. I don't forget also, that this is football...and all wins or losses sometimes depends upon luck, and not just inferior teams.

CCBoy said:

No one is as stupid as you feign being...Son.

The difference from crying about past losses, despite winning the NFC East two of the past three seasons and winning seasons for three of the past five seasons; and the top NFC regular season win record for two of those seasons....then implying the Cowboys are losers because of a group of losses during that period, well, and YOU were quoted on all of that, as you ignored the counter elements. Duh....let me repeat for the obvious biased view being retained....DUH!

Now, run along back to your playing in the street...or exchange elements in the real discussion presented. If one can....

To show function of knowledge in the current season, how about stepping up to the plate and justify how each of those teams are currently better and will beat Dallas, as you brag upon directions of failure.

Can you?

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So, I didn't make a prediction? That's all you had to say. Your original point to me was irrelevant or to the wrong person.

mattjames2010 said:

So, I didn't make a prediction? That's all you had to say. Your original point to me was irrelevant or to the wrong person.

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...run along, now.

Hadenough said:

Thats exactly right!
Brady was also able to move his team enough to play the field position game in a defensive battle with the Rams. That was extremely important to the Pats victory but some people dont see that!
On the flip side Brady was able to play a very effective short passing game intentionally to play ball possession and keep Mahomes off the field in the Chiefs game. Brady could care less about stats he does what it takes to win games.
Remember when Brady and Belichick were mad at the league and decided to make everyone pay for it. Brady had 50 tds passing that year. At this rate it would take Dak 2.5 years to throw that many TDs.

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It's doing what needs to be done on that game day. Nobody on the pats defense blamed the offense. No one on Rams defense blamed their offense.

That defense helped save Daks rear on several games... Now we blame the defense on a day that Dak needed to step up but was his average self....

There will be games like that and one side or other has to step up...

Against the saints Dak stunk up the joint....the defense absolutely saved the day and without that win would we have made the playoffs?

Against the Titans the defense gave the offense the ball back with turnovers and Dak threw I get eption in the end zone... But let's forget that because it doesn't fit the narrative

Dak sucked against the Rams.
Zeke sucked against the Rams.
Defense sucked against the rams

What some of the younger posters don't seem to realize, is that many of us have been through pre seasons with the Cowboys since 1960. We have weathered the highs as well as the lows as each and every season is approached.

There are a ton of questions, each and every season, and if one takes just a negative nanny approach...first off, you are a boring poster. But that doesn't lay down a set of stepping stones to develop up a growing view of the team's progress for that season.

Some of us use logic and reason to present for observation, positive points that could be developed. Another, many have been presented, is a view such as this:

The Dallas Cowboys Wildcard Player is George Iloka.
The Cowboys had the chance to bring in either Eric Berry or Earl Thomas but elected not to. Now Iloka is coming into a group that is in need of a sure tackler that can also cover tight ends. Iloka won’t have an easy path to the starting job with incumbent safety Jeff Heath still on the team. But Iloka has shown in the past he can do this but he has also been inconsistent at times in his career.

If the Cowboys get the best from Iloka and you pair him with the rangy and hard-hitting Xavier Woods then you have two strong starting safeties that can cover the whole field.

https://thelandryhat.com/2019/05/25/dallas-cowboys-x-factor-wildcard-2019/

Don't always attempt to be a ring tapper and insert a negative hurdle that doesn't at least attempt to discuss elements to agree or disagree, beyond rushing to NOT All Pro and the Secondary has huge holes STILL.

On this topic, I have to give credit in player evaluations and also to the current coaching staff. Both are quality elements for the Cowboys.

But in presenting the picture, at least we have non aggravated points for developmental observations, as well as future discussion as things develop up.

This is VERY early in the pre season...don't place a hurdle in the way of valid discussion aspects or insult a post or poster for getting off his own arse and doing some of the real leg work to see a ton of potentials up until the regular season is actually here.

I AM a Cowboys fan and won't bend my knee to a pissy attitude and insultive throw backs...contribute, yourself.

The bottom line concerning Dak Prescott is this:

This is Dak’s Team
Whether you like it or not, the Cowboys’ signal caller will be Dak Prescott for a long time. The extension talks are in full swing at the moment and I believe we can expect a number around $30 million a year. Not necessarily because Dak deserves it, but because he is the next quarterback to be paid.

Despite the contract talks, the Cowboys have done everything they can to help Prescott improve. The upgrade in the slot from Cole Beasley to Randall Cobb, along with drafting another weapon in running back Tony Pollard shows that the Cowboys management is totally invested in No. 4. And don’t forget the addition of Jon Kitna as quarterback coach.

https://thelandryhat.com/2019/05/24/dallas-cowboys-3-things-learned-offseason/

CCBoy said:

I already acknowledged that at this point, all of them should be a tough opponent...what I am not accepting is because of that potential, Dallas' position at present, is diminished or less.

I look forward to those games, yes, they will be indicators as to the degree currently being developed, that these Cowboys are. I don't forget also, that this is football...and all wins or losses sometimes depends upon luck, and not just inferior teams.

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I look forward to those games too. Like you I view them as a measuring of progress. Even though I may predict a loss it doesnt mean I wont be cheering like hell for Dak and the Cowboys.

Hadenough said:

So you don't think Brady going 30 of 46 for 348 yds is playing keep away, especially when you add in the running game. Yes he threw a couple ints but as usual the dude comes away with a win on the biggest stage.

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No. Because it was the running game that did the Chiefs in early in the game. They converted multiple 3rd downs with the run (and not just short yardage). Then the defense got the ball back quickly (this was the real "keep away." The 2nd half the Chiefs got 31, so no keep away. Brady should have had 3 picks that game. It wasn't a very good performance from him.

As usual, it's a team game and one guy doesn't come away with a win or loss.

As much as I’m happy that dak is the cowboys QB in no way shape or form will I put him in the same breath as Brady for any reason

As a matter of fact i wouldn’t put any other QB in the same breath as Brady other than Montana

Has Brady won any rings since Dak showed up?

Section446 said:

Has Brady won any rings since Dak showed up?

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Mane he’s won a whole gang of em yo

Like he gotta whole grip ah rings ya feel me slim be str8 ballin cuz ya herd meh

CowboysFaninHouston said:

I wonder what the record is for teams that go 1 for 9 on third downs offensively....

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Not good, but that would be because most teams that go 1 for 9 on 3rd down usually punt 7-8 times -- not 4, as Dallas did in that game. The Cowboys converted 18 times on downs other than 3rd.

The average team converted on a down other than 3rd in a game 14.1 times in 2018. In other words, the way to make it seem like a poor offensive performance would be to do what you're doing, which is to focus on 3rd down and ignore the other downs.

Doesn't mean that's what you're doing of course.

Johnny23 said:

How? Dak's going to have more rushing tds than immobile Brady. The completion percentage is skewed because Brady challenges the intermediate and deep portions of the field. While dak's hitting shorter stuff but got yak from Cooper. If Brady has the same number completions as Dak he blows by him in yards. It says Dak passed for less yards on more completions which is a win for Tom but that Dak is more of a rushing threat. The TD passes are comparable and Dak being more mobile doesn't make him a better qb.

This is just another desperately week attempt but the "Dak Lovers" to over hype him.

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Just another example of how you trolls are dead wrong about dak.

There’s no hype, he’s just one of the best young qbs in football.

Theres no attempt, just rolling out the facts/stats. Paints quite the different picture then you trolls try to paint.

Facts are stubborn things.

CowboyRoy said:

Just another example of how you trolls are dead wrong about dak.

There’s no hype, he’s just one of the best young qbs in football.

Theres no attempt, just rolling out the facts/stats. Paints quite the different picture then you trolls try to paint.

Facts are stubborn things.

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Then look at the facts. Dak's not better than Brady. It's a given he's going to have more rush tds because he's a running quarterback. But that doesn't make him better.

Those are facts. He also threw for less yards in more completions meaning Brady is getting the ball further down the field. It's called analysis of statistics.

percyhoward said:

Not good, but that would be because most teams that go 1 for 9 on 3rd down usually punt 7-8 times -- not 4, as Dallas did in that game. The Cowboys converted 18 times on downs other than 3rd.

The average team converted on a down other than 3rd in a game 14.1 times in 2018. In other words, the way to make it seem like a poor offensive performance would be to do what you're doing, which is to focus on 3rd down and ignore the other downs.

Doesn't mean that's what you're doing of course.

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It also ignores several 4th downs they converted. But again, it’s not like it’s purposeful misrepresentation or anything.

It’s amazing that so many people here think this is an attempt to equate Dak to Brady, or to claim he’s better than Brady.
Connect the dots.....
Brady is the greatest......
Our young QB is putting up numbers comparable to Brady.....
You should be excited. That’s all