How does Zeke's recent incident affect his extension?

Nightman

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If other players had multiple video evidence of how alcohol makes them act out of moral character then they should be handle accordingly. I have a good friend that when she drinks she acts rudely to everyone but when sober she is the nicest person you would ever meet. My concern is as a fan but I think the organization should be concerned with the person as well.
you should record her

my sister was a nightmare when drunk but nice as pie sober..... she never believed the horror stories until we filmed her showed her how she acted..... she finally quit drinking after that
 

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What case? I am not making a case for anything. Just made a few statements.
Don't take it so literal. I guess you need to rethink what I posted. So here it is again. They DO NOT post those times they are out to have fun, and NOTHING happens. I mean what fun is that to say hey, Zeke had some fun and there was no incidences.
Another guy that wants a cookie for doing what they are supposed to do
 

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The man should have 3 rushing titles in 3 years, he'll be the highest paid running back in the league whether it's with the Cowboys or not.
The year he did not lead in rushing is because he was suspended. As an employer, I have a right to know if I can count on my employees. I love the guy. I think he's the best rb in the nfl. But he needs to get a handle on the situation.
 

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You can bet there will be some money voidable with suspension on his next contract, no matter who he signs it with.
The future guaranteed money in all contracts is voidable when players get suspended

That basically gives the Team an out
 

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Maybe so, will just have to wait and see. But to go by what the team says, they are fine with Zeke and do not have those concerns.
So I will go with what the team says over a known Dallas hater. Though sometimes Carter can say some good things only when the facts present themselves where he can't just say stuff that flows out of his overly opinionated mouth.
Publicly they are putting the PR hat. But any team that has arguably their best player in consideration to miss time on the field should be concerned......if they are not concerned then they have bigger issues than Zeke. I am only talking about what Chris has said about Zeke.
 

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The year he did not lead in rushing is because he was suspended. As an employer, I have a right to know if I can count on my employees. I love the guy. I think he's the best rb in the nfl. But he needs to get a handle on the situation.
I love the guy as a player but I have moved on from extending him and counting on him

He can't get right and never will.....seen it too many times.... he loves to party....cares too much about his hair and half-shirt and feed me antics..... trouble follows trouble makers
 

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First, I think Elliott is a generational RB and I love how he plays.
I understand he's a young man, but at some point you have to take control of your opportunities in life.

This will effect his salary extension as Dallas very much SHOULD hold off until he can show he's not going to get suspended again.
The latest incident is really nothing in itself, but with just a touch more, it could have been bad. Add that to his previous shenanigans.

There is no question that whether or not Dallas gives him an elite contract or something less because he's a risk, Elliott will eventually play for someone. You just can't put all your eggs in that basket unless he proves otherwise.

Which is why we probably drafted RBs.
 

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I, 100 percent agree with you. Zeke is 23 years old, and I definitely didn’t make the best decisions at that age so I empathize with him. But because of his value to the team, the overreactions are insane. This incident will have no effect to Zeke being extended.

He’s an nfl star and role model getting paid 7 million to be a leader and set an example.

It’s clear he’s just trash.
 

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I love the guy as a player but I have moved on from extending him and counting on him

He can't get right and never will.....seen it too many times.... he loves to party....cares too much about his hair and half-shirt and feed me antics..... trouble follows trouble makers
Yep....wants to stand out and be noticed. Big ego small mind.

Emmitt he will never be.
 

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Given the cheap production at the rb position from mid to late to undrafted backs it would be the height of stupidity to give Zeke a big contract.

Let him walk, get your 3rd round comp pick, lick your wounds and learn from your mistakes.
 

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I say we ride carrot top into the ground the next three years...without a big guaranteed contract.

He can still make millions outside football...endorsements, his own record label, and eventually becoming the AD at Ohio State some day.
 

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you should record her

my sister was a nightmare when drunk but nice as pie sober..... she never believed the horror stories until we filmed her showed her how she acted..... she finally quit drinking after that
A group of friends got with her husband to have a talk with her. She is very cautious on how much she drinks when she is out and constantly ask us if she is OK. Intervention works for some when it comes from the right place.
 

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What case? I am not making a case for anything. Just made a few statements.
Don't take it so literal. I guess you need to rethink what I posted. So here it is again. They DO NOT post those times they are out to have fun, and NOTHING happens. I mean what fun is that to say hey, Zeke had some fun and there was no incidences.

As you said, the cameras won't roll if he's just out having some drinks with friends, dancing, eating food, etc.

So crazy thought here for Zeke........... just go out and drink and dance and have fun with your friends without getting into trouble.

I know............. I just babbling crazy talk here.
 

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Zeke's extension will be based on weather or not he gets suspended. If he does I can see Stephen low balling him. But only to the point he will make less than Gurley.
 

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Zeke now has 3 incidents off the field that demonstrate he has poor decision making ability.

Before the security guard altercation, I was all for extending him.

Now, I don't see how throwing 70 million at him will change him for the better.

Let him play out his 5th year option and let him walk after the end of next season.

Not everyone can get paid and I'd rather have the front office allocate cap resources to a player that can be counted on and doesn't have to worry about a TMZ story every off season or worse.

DO NOT EXTEND ZEKE.

Not at all in my very humble opinion
 

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Once again someone is on the Let Zeke walk bandwagons.

He busts out for 1400 rushing yards and 15 TDs behind a line that is healthy and has depth. Which backs up defenses and gives Dak time to find the receiver.

All this nonsense will go the way of the cornfield.

This is a game where men hit each other. The actions you see on the field wpould get you are me arrested if we did this in public.

They are not choirboys.

They are gladiators.

Perspective, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
 

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This has nothing to do with the Cowboys. If Zeke is suspended there is something personal there with Goodall. It’s a Zeke issue that needs to be addressed.
 

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Once again someone is on the Let Zeke walk bandwagons.

He busts out for 1400 rushing yards and 15 TDs behind a line that is healthy and has depth. Which backs up defenses and gives Dak time to find the receiver.

All this nonsense will go the way of the cornfield.

This is a game where men hit each other. The actions you see on the field wpould get you are me arrested if we did this in public.

They are not choirboys.

They are gladiators.

Perspective, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
I'll never understand how some people can't understand that we think Zeke is a great player but not a great investment.
 

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I'll never understand how some people can't understand that we think Zeke is a great player but not a great investment.

Yes, please educate me on the equation which illustrates great player low investment.

You know for certain he will not make it through his second contract? No, you don't. You don't even know whether his skill set will diminish. Because that is an unknown. One circumstance in the NFL, or one player, does not dictate what another player will do. If for nothing else Brady suggests the idea of age is not cast in cement.

But, but, but running backs take such abuse. That is why the investment isn't worth it.

Risk vs. reward The window for this team is the next few years. Franchising him twice then reevaluate is an idea.

But this notion that you just get rid of superior play making talent is contrary to the fact teams win with play makers.

I get it. I disagree with it whole heartedly.
 

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Yes, please educate me on the equation which illustrates great player low investment.

Sure.

Let's start with the worst place to invest heavily is RB. It is the most famous position for getting production at a cheap cost. We have even experienced that relatively recently with Murray, McFadden, Morris etc.

You know for certain he will not make it through his second contract? No, you don't.
And do you know he will? No you don't. History shows it is more likely he won't than he will. So the smart money is to proceed as if he won't.

BTW that ignores the above point. Even if he does make it through a 2nd contract you will have paid top dollar for production that routinely comes at bargain basement rates.

You don't even know whether his skill set will diminish.

Yes, I do. Because his skills have already diminished. Zeke lacks the elite burst he demonstrated his rookie year. He breaks less long runs, he's less productive per rush and last year he was more banged up than he has been in any of the previous two years. Already he doesn't practice during the week. This is year 3. But you're confident he ages like wine through year 10?

Because that is an unknown. One circumstance in the NFL, or one player, does not dictate what another player will do. If for nothing else Brady suggests the idea of age is not cast in cement.

Comparing the aging of QB and RB is embarrassing.

But, but, but running backs take such abuse. That is why the investment isn't worth it.

Risk vs. reward The window for this team is the next few years. Franchising him twice then reevaluate is an idea.

If the window is the next two years why would we want to tie up high dollars in a position where you could get production much cheaper and spread those other dollars to fill additional holes.

Let me ask you is this team better with Iloka and Zeke or Patrick Lindsay and Earl Thomas?

But this notion that you just get rid of superior play making talent is contrary to the fact teams win with play makers.

I get it. I disagree with it whole heartedly.


The idea is you get superior play making cheaper at RB so you can pay for more expensive playmaking at other positions that aren't so easily filled.

This is all really quite simple.
 
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