News: How new NFL mental health policy helps Randy Gregory

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I think JJ knew this was coming and it’s why he said he holds hope that Gregory may see the field this year.. maybe Irving should have kept his mouth shut.
Gregory worked his butt off last season. It showed on the field. He was starting to put it together.

Same with Josh Gordon in NE

I think they get a shot to play. The leash may be short but hopefully the get to work
 

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Gregory worked his butt off last season. It showed on the field. He was starting to put it together.

Same with Josh Gordon in NE

I think they get a shot to play. The leash may be short but hopefully the get to work
Might be too little too late..... a million guys would have gave their left nut to have had their talent and chances...... no sympathy here
 

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Might be too little too late..... a million guys would have gave their left nut to have had their talent and chances...... no sympathy here
To me this is what makes their choices so unbelievable. Who in their right mind would do the same under those circumstances? The only logical explanation is they weren’t in their right mind.
 

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To me this is what makes their choices so unbelievable. Who in their right mind would do the same under those circumstances? The only logical explanation is they weren’t in their right mind.
When RGregory was supposed to be getting re-instated in Nov '17 he was at his all-time low ..... basically a street level crack head

A team of men in black clothes had to snatch him off the streets and put him in extensive rehab for several months

They told us he didn't want to distract the team with his re-instatement during our playoff run.... it was a bs and I hate getting lied to like that
 

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Are you joking

You have one test a year and if you pass you can smoke til you choke

You have to stop for a month in March or July when there is very little pain

If you do manage to fail this open book test then you have to stay clean for 90 days to go back to zero

If not then you have to fail 3 more times to miss 4 games.......the horror

Less than 1% of the NFL playes are caught by this policy
I think the one test is mandatory for everyone but they can test a player under contract whenever they please and as many times as they please. That month is a estimate and could vary up to 90 days.
 

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I think the one test is mandatory for everyone but they can test a player under contract whenever they please and as many times as they please. That month is a estimate and could vary up to 90 days.
No.... it is one test a year for illegal drugs.... that is it unless you fail.... then they can test up to 10 times a month.... but if you stay clean for 3 months you are out of the program and cycle back to zero

They test 10 players randomly after each game for PEDs but not marijuana or coke
 

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No.... it is one test a year for illegal drugs.... that is it unless you fail.... then they can test up to 10 times a month.... but if you stay clean for 3 months you are out of the program and cycle back to zero

They test 10 players randomly after each game for PEDs but not marijuana or coke
I would say the PED test can determine other foreign substances Ihaven’t looked into the test but blood hair and urine is what can be tested overall. With that said if the player takes the NFL’s “PED test” and not the “Drug test” but shows something like amphetamine as an example what would happen? PED’s like steroids Tbol Dbol tren decca are schedule 3 illegal drugs. The overall NFL drug testing policy is filled with loopholes and exceptions which isn’t in plain view. NFLPA is wanting the policy more black and white essentially and weed is the talking point.

Shot in the dark Gregory was hit with a few PED test that showed pot


Side note the one test a year argument was paid for by team Goodell
 
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Are you joking

You have one test a year and if you pass you can smoke til you choke

You have to stop for a month in March or July when there is very little pain

If you do manage to fail this open book test then you have to stay clean for 90 days to go back to zero

If not then you have to fail 3 more times to miss 4 games.......the horror

Less than 1% of the NFL playes are caught by this policy
Yet weed has an effect on mental illness as well. So you're saying someone that's only found relief from their mental illness through weed must stop for well over a month so the NFL's uninformed and illogical policy can be enforced?

I mean I know you look on in horror as medicinal marijuana gets it's due in state after state but you really should at least educate yourself on its benefits if not take a few tokens yourself to chill the hell out on your half-baked ideas on what marijuana is and isn't.
 

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Yet weed has an effect on mental illness as well. So you're saying someone that's only found relief from their mental illness through weed must stop for well over a month so the NFL's uninformed and illogical policy can be enforced?

I mean I know you look on in horror as medicinal marijuana gets it's due in state after state but you really should at least educate yourself on its benefits if not take a few tokens yourself to chill the hell out on your half-baked ideas on what marijuana is and isn't.
child please.....save the lectures

marijuana is just a drug ....get over it
 

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I would say the PED test can determine other foreign substances Ihaven’t looked into the test but blood hair and urine is what can be tested overall. With that said if the player takes the NFL’s “PED test” and not the “Drug test” but shows something like amphetamine as an example what would happen? PED’s like steroids Tbol Dbol tren decca are schedule 3 illegal drugs. The overall NFL drug testing policy is filled with loopholes and exceptions which isn’t in plain view. NFLPA is wanting the policy more black and white essentially and weed is the talking point.

Shot in the dark Gregory was hit with a few PED test that showed pot


Side note the one test a year argument was paid for by team Goodell
You can think whatever you want but NFL Players are only tested for illegal drugs once a year

It happens at OTAs in April or a Training Camp in July.......pass it and you can smoke all year


The PED tests do not screen for marijuana and speed is considered a PED
 

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child please.....save the lectures

marijuana is just a drug ....get over it
So is alcohol and it doesnt play nice with livers nor brains.

I'm no child and you certainly need some lecturing if you have that type of closed, 1980s mindset.
 

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So is alcohol and it doesnt play nice with livers nor brains.

I'm no child and you certainly need some lecturing if you have that type of closed, 1980s mindset.
The British recently INCREASED it’s illegality (to class B, stuff like crack is class A) after finally accepting the wealth of medical advice that habitual use of today’s stronger weed significantly increases the risk of chronic mental disorders, particularly if smoked from before one’s mid-20s.

As to supposed medical benefits, there are none – I refer you to the biggest review of its kind, in the Pain Physician journal, Sept 2017 (of which the pdf is free online) “Efficacy of Cannabis-Based Medicines for Pain Management: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials.” This looked at 43 – FORTY THREE – randomized clinical trials and found most of them found MJ showed absolutely no benefits over placebo, let alone even trying to see if they can out-do any established pain killers.
 

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LOL...Don't care how you spin it..You all realize Randy Gregory is crazy right? That the guy is a mental midget that would rather smoke weed than play football?

I'm sorry...I just don't have room in my life for people that can't get it mentally together anymore. I've officially turned over a new leaf as of this post. Get on board w/ getting it right...or get off the train period. I got a feeling my "ignore list" is about to grow...and I'm ok with that. :rolleyes:
 

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The British recently INCREASED it’s illegality (to class B, stuff like crack is class A) after finally accepting the wealth of medical advice that habitual use of today’s stronger weed significantly increases the risk of chronic mental disorders, particularly if smoked from before one’s mid-20s.

As to supposed medical benefits, there are none – I refer you to the biggest review of its kind, in the Pain Physician journal, Sept 2017 (of which the pdf is free online) “Efficacy of Cannabis-Based Medicines for Pain Management: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials.” This looked at 43 – FORTY THREE – randomized clinical trials and found most of them found MJ showed absolutely no benefits over placebo, let alone even trying to see if they can out-do any established pain killers.


You're totally misrepresenting the result of that study.

But I think you know that.
 

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You're totally misrepresenting the result of that study.

But I think you know that.

He is not misrepresenting the study he is outright lying about it.

Although the British did move Marijuana from a Class C to a Class B, it occurred over 10 years ago :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_Kingdom
In May 2008, under the leadership of Prime Minister Gordon Brown, it was announced that cannabis would be moved back to Schedule B,[40] against the recommendations of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs.[41]

So then I went and read the PDF “Efficacy of Cannabis-Based Medicines for Pain Management: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials.” which indeed is free online and it also makes the exact opposite claims that you posted:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/84ac/36d2de8da7a5e9396a730e4e62fa1855dd2d.pdf

So there is 41 pages to this study on the very first page it lists its Conclusion which states very clearly:
The current systematic review suggests that CBMs (Cannibas Based Medicine) might be effective for chronic pain treatment, based on limited evidence, primarily for neuropathic pain (NP) patients. Additionally, GI AEs occurred more frequently when CBMs were administered via oral/oromucosal routes than by inhalation.

On the last page of the study:
The current study’s results suggest that medicinal use of cannabinoids should be further investigated for chronic pain treatment, either as a single treatment, or as a combination treatment with the more conventional treatments, such as opioids and anti-NP medications, as we are not aware of the possible AEs of combination treatments with CBMs. In comparison to other indications, CBMs have most extensively been investigated on NP (42) and evidence suggests a moderate to good treatment effect. Furthermore, NP patients should be advised that the inhalation of cannabinoids showed relatively better pain reduction effects than other routes of administration. However, the inhalation route of administration for cannabinoids for medical treatment is not followed universally (i.e., in some countries inhalation of cannabinoids is not permitted).
 
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