How does Zeke's recent incident affect his extension?

Toruk_Makto said:

Sure.

Let's start with the worst place to invest heavily is RB. It is the most famous position for getting production at a cheap cost. We have even experienced that relatively recently with Murray, McFadden, Morris etc.


And do you know he will? No you don't. History shows it is more likely he won't than he will. So the smart money is to proceed as if he won't.

BTW that ignores the above point. Even if he does make it through a 2nd contract you will have paid top dollar for production that routinely comes at bargain basement rates.



Yes, I do. Because his skills have already diminished. Zeke lacks the elite burst he demonstrated his rookie year. He breaks less long runs, he's less productive per rush and last year he was more banged up than he has been in any of the previous two years. Already he doesn't practice during the week. This is year 3. But you're confident he ages like wine through year 10?



Comparing the aging of QB and RB is embarrassing.



If the window is the next two years why would we want to tie up high dollars in a position where you could get production much cheaper and spread those other dollars to fill additional holes.

Let me ask you is this team better with Iloka and Zeke or Patrick Lindsay and Earl Thomas?




The idea is you get superior play making cheaper at RB so you can pay for more expensive playmaking at other positions that aren't so easily filled.

This is all really quite simple.

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Toruk_Makto said:

Sure.

Let's start with the worst place to invest heavily is RB. It is the most famous position for getting production at a cheap cost. We have even experienced that relatively recently with Murray, McFadden, Morris etc.


And do you know he will? No you don't. History shows it is more likely he won't than he will. So the smart money is to proceed as if he won't.

BTW that ignores the above point. Even if he does make it through a 2nd contract you will have paid top dollar for production that routinely comes at bargain basement rates.



Yes, I do. Because his skills have already diminished. Zeke lacks the elite burst he demonstrated his rookie year. He breaks less long runs, he's less productive per rush and last year he was more banged up than he has been in any of the previous two years. Already he doesn't practice during the week. This is year 3. But you're confident he ages like wine through year 10?



Comparing the aging of QB and RB is embarrassing.



If the window is the next two years why would we want to tie up high dollars in a position where you could get production much cheaper and spread those other dollars to fill additional holes.

Let me ask you is this team better with Iloka and Zeke or Patrick Lindsay and Earl Thomas?




The idea is you get superior play making cheaper at RB so you can pay for more expensive playmaking at other positions that aren't so easily filled.

This is all really quite simple.

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ColoradoCowboy said:

It doesn't affect resigning him at all. We were always going to resign him and I believe that we were always going to add a "good conduct clause" to the new deal. Now we just have more cause for adding that clause to the contract.

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glimmerman said:

He may play under the 5th year option if we don’t sign him. But just a guess that if has another good year he won’t play under the tag. We would probly have to sign him.

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Diehardblues said:

It’s not actually a Franchise Tag in his 5th year which we’ve already signed him too.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-exercise-ezekiel-elliotts-fifth-year-option/

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Diehardblues said:

Zeke’s Personal Conduct is going to cost him millions. And probably the security with the Cowboys he’d otherwise probably received.

And other teams are going to be suspect as well. He will have to sign for much less that a top RB would ordinarily receive . That’s the price he will pay for his off field behavior.

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Streetwise said:

I disagree. Unless he gets suspended further, there will be other teams who would pay him. He's very young, fresh and is arguably the best RB in the NFL.

Again, IF he gets suspended in the future, then that changes things.

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Diehardblues said:

This just in.

https://thedingydiamond.com/2019/05...ictim-is-thinking-of-pressing-charges-report/

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CouchCoach said:

The question I have is why no keeper for him? They had one for Pacman and Dez had one as a condition of employment. Meyer got Elliott's Dad to be his keeper in Columbus and Booger needs one for this guy to wise up.

He's sending the message "he doesn't get it" and to pay a player like that 15M a season and worse, make your offense dependent on him, is really risking a season.

Elliott reminds me of Maverick in "Top Gun" when his CO told him he had to do it better because of his baggage......and he keeps buzzing towers. Elliott has created his own and has put too much light on himself and being right or wrong doesn't really matter. Unless he's saving a kitten up a tree or carrying an old lady out of a burning house, he needs to stay the hell out of the news. It's all about how it looks to the NFL, not necessarily how it really is.

If they're going to extend him, which I think is a huge mistake at 15M+ a year, they better have some protective verbiage in that contract and I don't know how that works with the CBA.

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