Dak Prescott noticeably different in Cowboys offseason workouts

Of course. Amazing that anyone would expect any different. Linehan was from the old QB killing Mike Martz school of thought.

Although I, and everyone else, have/has no idea what we'll get form Moore, it honestly can't be any worse. Simply a different scheme that utillizes players' skillsets, as opposed to a scheme that was known for square peg/round hole stuff, and this O could and should easily become competent. I am eagerly looking forward to an exciting O that can consistently move the chains, and even moreso hopefully get a TD or 2.

CowboyRoy said:

Offense needs to get more aggressive and pass happy. Nothing to do with dak.

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Lol. So the coaches who were constantly criticized for being, "pass happy," are no longer pass happy... and you think that has nothing to do with the QB?

Jipper said:

if you actually believe he has more flaws than Tim Tebow then you really know nothing and I won't be able to take anything you say serious on here ever again...please tell me you are joking.

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I have been a critic of Dak, but even I say, he is heck of a lot better than Tebow..

DallasDomination said:

Dak has a lot of work to do before hes an elite passer. If he improved even a little from last year I'll be happy. His mechanics, anticipation throws and the time he takes to make a decision were terrible last year.


This is year 4.. improvement is expected. If hes the same dude then that's who he is.

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To be fair he definitely looked better in 2018 than 2017

PAPPYDOG said:

OMG its another universe another reality.....the Dak zone baby where reality is just a side-show!!!!

P.S. Have you seen Dak's footwork or his pocket presence bud?
His mechanics are simply terrible!
Guess not......

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But he completes 70% of his passes.

morat1959 said:

But he completes 70% of his passes.

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Ya my bad those "Check-downs" on 3rd and 12 are simply awesome!!!!!

Dak is what he is...a good QB, not great, but a winner. I wouldn't bet against this guy. He has beaten the odds his entire life. Folks forget how he was the team at miss state for 5 years. He was the unquestioned leader of those teams for 5 years. He kept them in games where they had no business being competitive. He had an outstanding rookie year here where he was deemed the top 2 most accurate passer in 2016.The only guy more accurate was Aaron Rodgers. That's not bad company. The haters refuse to acknowledge any of this. While I don't think Dak is elite,I also think he's more than capable of just being good for a long time. I'm all in .

PAPPYDOG said:

OMG its another universe another reality.....the Dak zone baby where reality is just a side-show!!!!

P.S. Have you seen Dak's footwork or his pocket presence bud?
His mechanics are simply terrible!
Guess not......

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I didn't say dak didnt have areas to improve, but footwork is much easier to correct than throwing mechanics. also i disagree on daks issue being pocket presence, he is fine there but the issue is slow decision making that forces him to hold the ball too long which leads to sacks and fumbles...that is more pocket awareness not presence

PAPPYDOG said:

Ya my bad those "Check-downs" on 3rd and 12 are simply awesome!!!!!

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I’m rolling! Not to mention, 90% of em are at the receiver’s feet, over their head or behind them. Never in stride so they have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the first down!

morat1959 said:

I’m rolling! Not to mention, 90% of em are at the receiver’s feet, over their head or behind them. Never in stride so they have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the first down!

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Yep and my worries that one of our receivers will get mauled and out for season are very real as those high-ones are dangerous at best!!!!

morat1959 said:

I’m rolling! Not to mention, 90% of em are at the receiver’s feet, over their head or behind them. Never in stride so they have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the first down!

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90% ...

Dak needs to improve his accuracy, but if you have to grossly exaggerate to make a point then you don’t have a point.

Jipper said:

I didn't say dak didnt have areas to improve, but footwork is much easier to correct than throwing mechanics. also i disagree on daks issue being pocket presence, he is fine there but the issue is slow decision making that forces him to hold the ball too long which leads to sacks and fumbles...that is more pocket awareness not presence

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Since his scouting report said the exact opposite, I don't think so. Dak had the misfortune of being drafted to a Mike Martz scheme, w/ long developing routes, which means any QB is going to take a ton of sacks in this system. And he's going to have to stand in the pocket for long periods of time waiting for someone to break open. Don't you remember, Romo had the same problem.

We are fixin' to find out what the problem was/is. Unless Moore is just another moron, and that doesn't appear to be the case.

OmerV said:

90% ... Dak needs to improve his accuracy, but if you have to grossly exaggerate to make a point then you don’t have a point.

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they are going to hyper inflate daks problem areas and minimize his strengths ...nothing you can do to change their view.

but luckily, Dak is not going anywhere and will be the qb for the next decade....and there is no amount of critical posts on this forum that will change that

kskboys said:

Since his scouting report said the exact opposite, I don't think so. Dak had the misfortune of being drafted to a Mike Martz scheme, w/ long developing routes, which means any QB is going to take a ton of sacks in this system. And he's going to have to stand in the pocket for long periods of time waiting for someone to break open. Don't you remember, Romo had the same problem.

We are fixin' to find out what the problem was/is. Unless Moore is just another moron, and that doesn't appear to be the case.

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Poor Moore gonna get a ton of Dak-executions( Excuses) dropped on him .......Linehan part II coming soon.......

kskboys said:

Since his scouting report said the exact opposite, I don't think so. Dak had the misfortune of being drafted to a Mike Martz scheme, w/ long developing routes, which means any QB is going to take a ton of sacks in this system. And he's going to have to stand in the pocket for long periods of time waiting for someone to break open. Don't you remember, Romo had the same problem.

We are fixin' to find out what the problem was/is. Unless Moore is just another moron, and that doesn't appear to be the case.

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I guess we shall see...hope not to be 2nd in the league I sacks this year....but only about 20% of those were on dak from what I have read

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Poor Moore gonna get a ton of Dak-executions( Excuses) dropped on him .......Linehan part II coming soon.......

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is there anything about this team that you are positive on? honest question, you just strike me as someone that always looks for the negative in a situation

The headline is a statement but the post begins with an If. I have not heard or seen that he is noticeably "different" so far this season but we won't really know until it gets real and we see the level of consistency with his accuracy.

My problem with him is the inconsistency on his throws and he misses too many QB 101 throws and they practice the timing all of the time. He's 6'2" and does not have the release point of Warren Moon, have no idea where that came from. So on those slants, he has to have a lane to lead the receiver or take the lane he has available. He's short for a NFL QB and he has WR's shorter than he is so he has to have the line of sight. Witten is the tallest target he has at 6'6".

Watch Brady's release point. He's 6'4" and gets every inch of that in his release point. That is not an easy thing to do and retain accuracy and unless a QB can be retrained to that type of delivery, he will revert to instinct. I remember Kosar's coach talking about his practice delivery vs his in game one and it was frustrating. The same thing was said about Joe Kapp and Billy Kilmer. Once it got real and the bodies began to fly around, the instincts took over.

Jipper said:

I guess we shall see...hope not to be 2nd in the league I sacks this year....but only about 20% of those were on dak from what I have read

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Maybe.

People don't seem to understand how bad this scheme was. Even though it derailed Warner and got him injured and then ruined Bulger's career. This is factual stuff, not conjecture. It's a well known fact that Martz ran these long developing routes and needed a stellar OL to do so, and that it really didn't work unless you had a great OL and an extremely talented O and a very good D. Simply no room for any weakness at all.

When you have a scheme that has been proven to have major flaws, evaluating players therein becomes nothing more than guesswork.

kskboys said:

Maybe.

People don't seem to understand how bad this scheme was. Even though it derailed Warner and got him injured and then ruined Bulger's career. This is factual stuff, not conjecture. It's a well known fact that Martz ran these long developing routes and needed a stellar OL to do so, and that it really didn't work unless you had a great OL and an extremely talented O and a very good D. Simply no room for any weakness at all.

When you have a scheme that has been proven to have major flaws, evaluating players therein becomes nothing more than guesswork.

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Moore has his work cut out for him for sure....but I like the potential...at least it's going to be different than the frustrating calls we have had to live with

Jipper said:

Moore has his work cut out for him for sure....but I like the potential...at least it's going to be different than the frustrating calls we have had to live with

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I felt such extreme alacrity when Linehan was fired, and I've been on cloud 9 ever since. Hope Moore is the guy, but if nothing else at least we finally moved on from Linehan.