2018: 23 years old; 4 years; 60 Million; 45 GTD

SackMaster

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Some don't want to resign Dak to a big contract because its "easy to replace an average qb", yet some don't want to resign Zeke to a big contract because "the RB position is easy to replace".

So hey, let's go into the 2020 draft needing to draft a starting QB then in 2021 a starting RB. Then when it comes to their second contracts, just draft their replacements again.

THAT'S how you stay out of Cap Hell, I tell ya. Don't give ANYONE second NFL Contracts.

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zeke is the exception, not the rule. spell him on occasion, keeping him fresh, and he will dominate games. he is a proven chain mover. when it's 3rd and short, he gets the first down. on 4th and short, I feel more confident he will get the first than I have in years. but there will come a time when the brass has to get serious about how much money they can pay him. zeke will need to get serious about how much he wants. another problematic signing.
 

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That is what the Rams signed up for this time last year.

And now....



The point?

RB is the most wasteful position to invest heavily in. Period.

The Rams are 1 year into a new deal for Gurley and in their heart of hearts they're counting down the days until 2022 when they can get out from under the it.

Yeah. Jerry screwed up by resigning Emmitt to big money back in 93.
 
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I think it depends on the type of QB you've got. If you have an elite passer then there's no reason to invest in an elite RB unless he's a good pass catcher too.
 

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The issue is that the difference in production between elite and just good RBs is minimal. It's pretty easy to replace elite RB production.

Look at Gurley last year being replaced by CJ Anderson
Or James Connor last year replacing Bell, or then Jaylen Samuel replacing Connor
Or Spencer Ware last year replacing Hunt for a few weeks, or Damien William's then replacing Ware
Or.... nevermind y'all get it
 

gimmesix

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That is what the Rams signed up for this time last year.

And now....



The point?

RB is the most wasteful position to invest heavily in. Period.

The Rams are 1 year into a new deal for Gurley and in their heart of hearts they're counting down the days until 2022 when they can get out from under the it.


Investing in players is reflective of drafting. Ideally, you'd love to continually draft players who can be ready to step into the starter's shoes so you don't have to pay what it takes to retain the starter when he reaches free agency. For example, ideally Pollard would show that we don't need to invest in Elliott. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen that way. The draft is hit and miss, so you weigh your options. If you want to field a competitive team, you don't downgrade the talent just because of injury risk, etc. You try to put the best team you can out there while minding how you spread your cap dollar, what you value most, etc.

I think it's silly to make a blanket statement that RB is the most wasteful position to invest heavily in, because there are lots of factors that can affect that, most dealing with the running back you have compared to what you have to replace him with. There comes a point where the investment is not worth the return (see DeMarco Murray), but it can sometimes be difficult to determine when you've reached that point, especially if your efforts to find a suitable replacement have failed, which statistically is a pretty good possibility.

This is from https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015...e-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round in 2015:

Running Backs
The position has been devalued over the years but the statistics still show that it is better to draft early if you are looking for a starter.

  • Of the 207 players drafted 33 have become starters for half their careers. This gives an indication that there is a lot of Running Back By Committee (RBBC).
  • There is a very high bust rate for RBs. The first round gives you a 58% chance of finding a starter followed by 25% in the second, 16% in the third, 11% in the fourth, 9% in the fifth, 6% in the sixth and 0% in the 7th.
  • If you rank the rounds by the total RBs drafted you find that the greatest number are drafted in the 7th, followed by the 4th, 6th, 2nd, 3rd, 1st, and 5th.
If you want a stud RB, they are likely to come from the first round. If you are looking for depth, the fourth round seems to be the place to go. This year Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon have the first round grades based on statistics it seems likely that one of the two will be a bust. However, this could be like 2007 when AP and Beastmode went in the first round. For the Chiefs, since 2007 they have taken a RB every draft except 2010. Both Charles and Davis were the highest drafted both coming in the 3rd round.
 

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Please see the salaries of top paid RB's

https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/

Tell me the guys who are elite and who should be paid? Also tell me the guys who will carry their team to SB.

Tell me what WR or DE or any other player at any position besides QB can lead his team to the Super Bowl. What an elite RB can do is give the offense another way to be highly effective even in games where the passing offense sputters. The Cowboys best coaches (Landry and Jimmy) both believed that the more weapons the opposing defense had to worry about, the more effective the offense would be. I think that still holds true. It's hard to stop an offense when a defense can't focus it's efforts on either the run or passing game of the opponent for fear that they other will take advantage.
 

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Disagree. Like it has been stated. The RB is the most replaceable position in the league. The unique problem we have is that our golden QB who is going to get 30+ million relies on Zeke for his success.
This FO is trying to replicate the 90's SB runs, and it will end badly.

Just because it has been stated does not mean it is always true.
I do not believe everything I read, and especially at times on here. :laugh:
 

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Zeke is a knucklehead but he's probably the most durable RB in the league.
 

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Name all the late round or free agent RBs in the Hall of Fame
It's like some of you don't watch football

Lmao, zero correlation

Quick name all the injured/suspended RBs last year that didn't have the majority of their production replaced by their stand in.

It's like you havent watched football since the mid 90's
 

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Just because it has been stated does not mean it is always true.
I do not believe everything I read, and especially at times on here. :laugh:

Jazz, how would you list of most easily replaceable positions go? 1-3 or 1-5 or whatever.
 

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Lmao, zero correlation

Quick name all the injured/suspended RBs last year that didn't have the majority of their production replaced by their stand in.

It's like you havent watched football since the mid 90's
Quick. Let's see those Hall of Fame RBs.
The game is still fundamentally the same. It doesn't matter if it's the 90s or now.
Zero correlation in your theory.
 
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