News: Chidobe Awuzie's health may be concern for Cowboys

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 6, 2019

kskboys said:
I disagree that Cooper stood out. Cooper showed that he did not have the arm for the NFL. Those floaters he was throwing don't work in the NFL. He really shouldn't have made the team.

Floaters or not he made plays. He made a bunch of them. It’s possible to do with backups.

iceberg · Jun 6, 2019

buybuydandavis said:
Because Byron had the physical traits to be the kind of single high safety that transforms a defense. Size, speed, agility, length, leaping ability. And he actually had significant experience at safety. He wasn't just a conversion project.

He projected as a perfect single high centerfielder, with the speed to cover sideline to sideline, and the size, length, and leaping ability to contest every ball when he got there. In an era where the defense has to dance around WRs instead of hit them, size, length, and leaping ability should let you challenge every pass.

Too bad he just didn't seem to have the knack to play zone or challenge the ball in the air.

so - maybe textbook stuff doesn't always translate.

like i said - this is not about jones in the end - but for a decade it seems around here we go nuts on safety. gotta draft one every year. if we don't and draft a CB it becomes a game of who we convert to safety. when jones was drafted that was the talk - MOVE HIM MOVE HIM. it just seems to be a fascination for some to go on and on about the S position.

iceberg · Jun 6, 2019

kskboys said:
Not true. You specifically referred to Jones.

CB's are tried at S all the time. Especially in today's NFL, where coverage is of the utmost importance. Jones played S in college, so he wasn't even switched.

It's OK to just admit you were wrong sometimes.

yes i did cause he was the latest example of our failure in the converting process. now what was my very next sentence? OH - it was about the overall CB position and converting them to safety which is a habit of many posters in here - guess i can put you on that list.

now - as for the "ok to admit" crap - please feel free to go abuse yourself with used produce.

kskboys · Jun 6, 2019

rocyaice said:
Floaters or not he made plays. He made a bunch of them. It’s possible to do with backups.

Cooper knows what to do, he simply lacks the physical ability to do so. I cannot see calling a guy a standout who clearly showed he lacks the ability to play in the NFL.

How do you define standout?

kskboys · Jun 6, 2019

iceberg said:
yes i did cause he was the latest example of our failure in the converting process. now what was my very next sentence? OH - it was about the overall CB position and converting them to safety which is a habit of many posters in here - guess i can put you on that list.

now - as for the "ok to admit" crap - please feel free to go abuse yourself with used produce.

You are a strange little dude.

When you get proven incorrect, just keep arguing!!!!!!!! It's OK to be 12!!!!!

kskboys · Jun 6, 2019

iceberg said:
so - maybe textbook stuff doesn't always translate.

like i said - this is not about jones in the end - but for a decade it seems around here we go nuts on safety. gotta draft one every year. if we don't and draft a CB it becomes a game of who we convert to safety. when jones was drafted that was the talk - MOVE HIM MOVE HIM. it just seems to be a fascination for some to go on and on about the S position.

Let's see, do you have any idea why people are going on and on about the S position? It's because we are weak there. Same as your powers of evaluation!!!!!

Jones wasn't being converted. He played both in college, starting all 12 games at S in 2012.

Seriously, dude, you got this one wrong. You're starting to just sound foolish now.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 6, 2019

kskboys said:
Cooper knows what to do, he simply lacks the physical ability to do so. I cannot see calling a guy a standout who clearly showed he lacks the ability to play in the NFL.

How do you define standout?

Look good against second and third stringers is a standout.

iceberg · Jun 6, 2019

kskboys said:
Let's see, do you have any idea why people are going on and on about the S position? It's because we are weak there. Same as your powers of evaluation!!!!!

Jones wasn't being converted. He played both in college, starting all 12 games at S in 2012.

Seriously, dude, you got this one wrong. You're starting to just sound foolish now.

i'm not the one ranting.

my point - and only point - is that there are people in here who want to convert CB's over the last decade + to Safety. i've found that ironic since well over a decade ago. now that jones is being moved BACK to CB, i thought it funny so many when he was drafted wanted AGAIN to move someone to S.

never said S wasn't an issue, just the constant MOVE 'EM mentality some in here have and will continue to have.

but since you are here it would seem to engage in pointless battles with others, i'll slide you on over to ignore and move onto to someone still not confused by puberty.

SportsGuru80 · Jun 6, 2019

He'll be Ok

links18 · Jun 7, 2019

Hip Flexor? I get one of those getting out of bed in the bed in the morning?

erod · Jun 7, 2019

By the end of the season, Awuzie may have been the best player on the defense.

Gotta get him right.

kskboys · Jun 7, 2019

rocyaice said:
Look good against second and third stringers is a standout.

Throwing passes that will work in an NFL game is a standout.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 7, 2019

kskboys said:
Throwing passes that will work in an NFL game is a standout.

Yeah that’s a stand out too. What’s your point lol?

LatinMind · Jun 8, 2019

ClappingCarrot said:
This could play out very badly though if Byron doesn't get back on the field soon as well. Good thing we continue to add quality corners to the roster.

Get well soon, Chido.

The way teams figured out Jones at the end of the yr, i think he is toast this yr. In the final 5 games of the yr including playoffs Dallas gave up 5 passing tds, Jones gave up 3 of them.

kskboys · Jun 10, 2019

rocyaice said:
Yeah that’s a stand out too. What’s your point lol?

My point is that to call someone a standout for preseason play, an analysis must be done first w/ extreme attention paid to whether the "standout play" has the potential to work against NFL starters. Rush does understand where he needs to go w/ the ball. However, no matter how you slice it, Rush does not have the minimum arm strength to play QB in the NFL. Therefore, I do not consider his play as "standout".

Make sense?

kskboys · Jun 10, 2019

LatinMind said:
The way teams figured out Jones at the end of the yr, i think he is toast this yr. In the final 5 games of the yr including playoffs Dallas gave up 5 passing tds, Jones gave up 3 of them.

Dang, I didn't know it was that bad, though it was obvious he was giving it up later in the year.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 10, 2019

kskboys said:
My point is that to call someone a standout for preseason play, an analysis must be done first w/ extreme attention paid to whether the "standout play" has the potential to work against NFL starters. Rush does understand where he needs to go w/ the ball. However, no matter how you slice it, Rush does not have the minimum arm strength to play QB in the NFL. Therefore, I do not consider his play as "standout".

Make sense?

So if you dominate a game....but lack arm strength does that mean you didn’t dominate?

LatinMind · Jun 10, 2019

kskboys said:
Dang, I didn't know it was that bad, though it was obvious he was giving it up later in the year.

i dont think Jones is back unless he can figure out how to get turnovers. They;d get a 3rd comp pick for him most likely

gjkoeppen · Jun 10, 2019

CCBoy said:
Chidobe Awuzie's health may be concern for Cowboys

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...medium=wasabi&utm_content=recirc-most-popular

Update: It’s been learned Awuzie’s issue is a hip flexor, not another hamstring injury.

The Dallas Cowboys hope they have developed one of the league’s best cornerback tandems, and certainly one of their best combinations in recent years. Byron Jones, moved from safety to corner by then-new passing game coordinator Kris Richard, excelled to the point he was a Pro Bowler and second-team All-Pro. Chidobe Awuzie, playing in his second season, started to show his value down the stretch of the 2018 campaign and into the playoffs.

Now, injury concerns may be clouding how high the sky really is for the duo. With Jones on the mend after hip surgery and likely out for the majority of the summer, Awuzie should be leading the unit and ready to assume a sizable role in Dallas’ 2019 defense. Only, he has already suffered his own injury, or at least had enough of an issue the team needs to be cautious. The problem area? His lower half again, this time a hip flexor...

In case you never noticed, the Cowboys take it slow with any player that pulls something or gets nick up during OTA's and mini camp. The sky is not falling.
.

CCBoy · Jun 10, 2019

gjkoeppen said:
In case you never noticed, the Cowboys take it slow with any player that pulls something or gets nick up during OTA's and mini camp. The sky is not falling.
.

...I was National Honor Society for three years. Sky is falling? Get a life.

That, and an I.Q. of just three points higher and that statement above would qualify for the life of a sedimentary rock classification.

Injury and development is very relevant at this point in the year. This year's team is being trained right now, and will shortly be tested. Injuries have and will be a large part in player participation now to camp.

By the way...the OP was provided by an outside source and talking down to it's author is really hard on how one's own IQ is observed.

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