Can Moore remember to do less?

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I've now read enough, heard enough, and even seen enough to get fully behind the Kellen Moore appointment. That now makes perfect sense to me, and I think it's a smart move. Perhaps brilliant move.

The stories of him as a recruit with his own legitimate playbook he'd written; the accolades from those in Detroit; his lineage with a successful coach for a father and a brother in the business; the praise from players like Zeke, Witten, Dak, and others....it sounds less risky by the minute.

Moore is one of those dudes that sees the game in multidimensional form, and eats and breaths the nuances of how to disguise plays and create mismatches. A young Andy Reid with Xs and Os in his eyes at all times who probably wears out the video system at The Star daily.

The Cowboys are gonna look very different this year. That in itself is desperately needed because even with the fair share of wins, the games have grown stale. Mostly the offense, which wasn't so much "predictable" as it was just too much the same for too long. It simply doesn't explode often enough.

Not that football has been reinvented in young Moore's mind. The plays he'll call have been run in the NFL thousands of times before, but combinations of routes and alignments will make it seem different anyway, at least in these parts. There are only so many ways to execute a run or forward pass.

In fact, the true challenge for Moore will often be to just remember to dial it in. This is still the best dang smash-mouth football team in the NFL, and Zeke still has a head the size of a smart car behind 225 pounds of ferocity. The draft suggests they intend to do just that with a new sidekick for Zeke and more beef for the beef truck. The moves made say run the dadgum ball, but can Moore remember that when the air game is working effectively?

Much like Reid, or Sean Payton, or Mike Martz, or any coach who basks in his "offensive guru" celebrity image, it can be hard at times to just call the right play instead of the "me" play. That certainly has gotten the best of Reid, Payton, and Martz over the years, whose egos are bigger than the franchises they've presided over.

We've got to hope that the aw-shucks Rain Man persona Moore exudes is for real, and that he doesn't get eaten up by the public enamor of his genius after a couple of inspiring outings. Reid, Payton, and Martz have out-thought themselves more times than I can count.

There's absolutely no doubt the passing game desperately needs a freshness to give Dak more comfort and time to make the throws he likes. Dak's effusive praise of Moore hints that it will. Guys like Jarwin and Gallup will likely become far more prominent in the offense immediately. Pollard could be a very interesting component, too.

But what most floored me was Zeke's gushing over Moore. That honestly surprised me, just like it did Michael Irvin. Moore and Zeke couldn't be more different dudes, and I would have thought those personalities would just pass in the halls with nary a glance.

But when Irvin openly questioned the hiring of Moore, Zeke stopped him in his tracks and delivered my most favorite quote of the offseason: “After speaking this weekend with Ezekiel Elliott, I kind of did a 180 on it. One of the things Zeke said, he said, ‘Michael, this kid is smart.’ He said he’s smart, and I think the most important thing he said … ‘He’ll listen to us. What we see on the field, he’ll listen and incorporate it in the game plan.'”

If the players are that excited, then I'm that excited. How can you not be? That alone could stop this up-and-down trend from season to season we've watched unfold for years.

Still, it's critical for Moore to remember what this team is, and what it centers around. There's an advantage to being one of the very few physical run teams in the NFL because most defenses are built fast and small to deal with Reid and Payton. Very few are built to stand up to Dallas' offensive line and Zeke Elliott. That has to remain the identity.

Finding the proper balance will be the key to getting this offense out of the mud and scoring as its talent level says it should. If so, Dallas is right in the thick of it all this season. For real.

The master stroke of it all, unbelievably, could be behind that familiar teenaged blank stare that we didn't think twice about until now.
 
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I was right with you up till the blank stare part. I've seen him staring, but it for sure wasn't blank.

Other than that, great post.
 

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Who is this @erod and what took over his posting. :laugh:

Good post.

"This is still the best dang smash-mouth football team in the NFL, and Zeke still has a head the size of a smart car behind 225 pounds of ferocity."
Sums it up pretty well, but that smart car has the engine of a Ferrari.
 

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I hope he works out but on the other side-
why didnt Detroit do anything with him or inquire when he was just a qb coach
Gruden just rebuilt a whole team (and has that video where he claims he's so great) but he didnt even inquire about availability.
I really didnt see anything when he was the qb coach.

again I hope he works out but not jumping on this bandwagon yet
 

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I hope he works out but on the other side-
why didnt Detroit do anything with him or inquire when he was just a qb coach
Gruden just rebuilt a whole team (and has that video where he claims he's so great) but he didnt even inquire about availability.
I really didnt see anything when he was the qb coach.

again I hope he works out but not jumping on this bandwagon yet

The team was 3-5, and Moore was given a huge role in gameplanning at that point. They went 7-1 from there (albeit largely because of the defense).

He's 33 and just retired from playing. He was only the QB coach for 1 year. Of course he wasn't on a lot of radars, which is why the hiring was shocking when announced. As more detail comes out, the more sense it's making. The players and organization view him very positively.
 

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Moore's biggest challenge will not be knowing when to dial it back. The biggest challenge he faces his first year is designing, implementing and calling plays and proving he can do it every week. Players and fans will buy in after he proves he can do it. Every week. I'm still luke warm on the hire and at best cautiously optimistic he can pull it off.
 

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All this just confirms to me that Jason Garrett should be fired for trying to sell Linehan as an "outstanding Offensive Coordinator" for almost a half decade.

It's been clear to me, judging from multiple player reactions, that he was too stubborn to adjust his scheme to his personnel.
 

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All this just confirms to me that Jason Garrett should be fired for trying to sell Linehan as an "outstanding Offensive Coordinator" for almost a half decade.

It's been clear to me, judging from multiple player reactions, that he was too stubborn to adjust his scheme to his personnel.

All the comments by the players makes you wonder about Linehan. Did he tune players out thinking they did not know what they were talking about? Or was his ego so big that he thought his play calls were awesome and the players just needed to execute better?
 

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All the comments by the players makes you wonder about Linehan. Did he tune players out thinking they did not know what they were talking about? Or was his ego so big that he thought his play calls were awesome and the players just needed to execute better?
Absolutely.

The one that sticks out to me the most was when Amari commented after a game last season (I think it was week 14 against the Eagles) that the CB's kept sitting on the short routes and we weren't taking shots down the field, even in man coverage and Dak refused to audible at the LOS. Once we did change the call to a deep route, they connected. Who knows how much stuff like that went on in the huddle.
 

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All the comments by the players makes you wonder about Linehan. Did he tune players out thinking they did not know what they were talking about? Or was his ego so big that he thought his play calls were awesome and the players just needed to execute better?

Linehan's offense was terrific in Minnesota with Culpepper and Moss, in Detroit with Stafford and Johnson, and in Dallas with Romo and Dez. Remember, we were PRAISING Linehan for a good while.

But he failed to adjust to these circumstances. He's stuck in his ways and his offense, which he tried to simplify to no avail.

Moore has been tasked to build an offense to fit this personnel. In fact, there's a thought that Dallas should go ahead and pay Dak big money, but for very few years, in case this doesn't work. A guy like Lincoln Riley won't come here if Dak is tied to a long deal and hasn't improved. If Riley doesn't think Dak can run his offense, he and others like him will choose to go elsewhere.

Garrett, Moore, and Dak are largely tied to this experiment. Moore's job is put all these parts together and solve the scoring woes, especially in the red zone where the Cowboys are dreadful.
 

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The team was 3-5, and Moore was given a huge role in gameplanning at that point. They went 7-1 from there (albeit largely because of the defense).

He's 33 and just retired from playing. He was only the QB coach for 1 year. Of course he wasn't on a lot of radars, which is why the hiring was shocking when announced. As more detail comes out, the more sense it's making. The players and organization view him very positively.
FYI...Kellen Moore turns 30yo on July 12 (b. 1989).
 

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The team was 3-5, and Moore was given a huge role in gameplanning at that point. They went 7-1 from there (albeit largely because of the defense).

He's 33 and just retired from playing. He was only the QB coach for 1 year. Of course he wasn't on a lot of radars, which is why the hiring was shocking when announced. As more detail comes out, the more sense it's making. The players and organization view him very positively.

hope ur right
didnt know he has been gameplanning
if he gameplans to take advantage of the other teams weaknesses (which for some reason Garrett never believed in), leans toward using plays that take advantage of the offenses weaker matchups each game, and can change plays if/as the game dictates I think he could be successful.
If he gameplans just thinking multiple alignments, trying to disguise plays, and using trick plays will work I think the bandwagon will crash before season over.

again hoping for best but if its ok I'll take a later bandwagon-they're coming by frequently
 

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I hope he works out but on the other side-
why didnt Detroit do anything with him or inquire when he was just a qb coach
Gruden just rebuilt a whole team (and has that video where he claims he's so great) but he didnt even inquire about availability.
I really didnt see anything when he was the qb coach.

again I hope he works out but not jumping on this bandwagon yet

If the measuring sticks are Detroit and Gruden that gives me more confidence in the Moore hire.
 

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I've now read enough, heard enough, and even seen enough to get fully behind the Kellen Moore appointment. That now makes perfect sense to me, and I think it's a smart move. Perhaps brilliant move.

The stories of him as a recruit with his own legitimate playbook he'd written; the accolades from those in Detroit; his lineage with a successful coach for a father and a brother in the business; the praise from players like Zeke, Witten, Dak, and others....it sounds less risky by the minute.

Moore is one of those dudes that sees the game in multidimensional form, and eats and breaths the nuances of how to disguise plays and create mismatches. A young Andy Reid with Xs and Os in his eyes at all times who probably wears out the video system at The Star daily.

The Cowboys are gonna look very different this year. That in itself is desperately needed because even with the fair share of wins, the games have grown stale. Mostly the offense, which wasn't so much "predictable" as it was just too much the same for too long. It simply doesn't explode often enough.

Not that football has been reinvented in young Moore's mind. The plays he'll call have been run in the NFL thousands of times before, but combinations of routes and alignments will make it seem different anyway, at least in these parts. There are only so many ways to execute a run or forward pass.

In fact, the true challenge for Moore will often be to just remember to dial it in. This is still the best dang smash-mouth football team in the NFL, and Zeke still has a head the size of a smart car behind 225 pounds of ferocity. The draft suggests they intend to do just that with a new sidekick for Zeke and more beef for the beef truck. The moves made say run the dadgum ball, but can Moore remember that when the air game is working effectively?

Much like Reid, or Sean Payton, or Mike Martz, or any coach who basks in his "offensive guru" celebrity image, it can be hard at times to just call the right play instead of the "me" play. That certainly has gotten the best of Reid, Payton, and Martz over the years, whose egos are bigger than the franchises they've presided over.

We've got to hope that the aw-shucks Rain Man persona Moore exudes is for real, and that he doesn't get eaten up by the public enamor of his genius after a couple of inspiring outings. Reid, Payton, and Martz have out-thought themselves more times than I can count.

There's absolutely no doubt the passing game desperately needs a freshness to give Dak more comfort and time to make the throws he likes. Dak's effusive praise of Moore hints that it will. Guys like Jarwin and Gallup will likely become far more prominent in the offense immediately. Pollard could be a very interesting component, too.

But what most floored me was Zeke's gushing over Moore. That honestly surprised me, just like it did Michael Irvin. Moore and Zeke couldn't be more different dudes, and I would have thought those personalities would just pass in the halls with nary a glance.

But when Irvin openly questioned the hiring of Moore, Zeke stopped him in his tracks and delivered my most favorite quote of the offseason: “After speaking this weekend with Ezekiel Elliott, I kind of did a 180 on it. One of the things Zeke said, he said, ‘Michael, this kid is smart.’ He said he’s smart, and I think the most important thing he said … ‘He’ll listen to us. What we see on the field, he’ll listen and incorporate it in the game plan.'”

If the players are that excited, then I'm that excited. How can you not be? That alone could stop this up-and-down trend from season to season we've watched unfold for years.

Still, it's critical for Moore to remember what this team is, and what it centers around. There's an advantage to being one of the very few physical run teams in the NFL because most defenses are built fast and small to deal with Reid and Payton. Very few are built to stand up to Dallas' offensive line and Zeke Elliott. That has to remain the identity.

Finding the proper balance will be the key to getting this offense out of the mud and scoring as its talent level says it should. If so, Dallas is right in the thick of it all this season. For real.

The master stroke of it all, unbelievably, could be behind that familiar teenaged blank stare that we didn't think twice about until now.

Great post however didn't they say the plays aren't changing (only they'll be executed differently)?
 

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didnt know he has been gameplanning
if he gameplans to take advantage of the other teams weaknesses (which for some reason Garrett never believed in), leans toward using plays that take advantage of the offenses weaker matchups each game, and can change plays if/as the game dictates I think he could be successful.
If he gameplans just thinking multiple alignments, trying to disguise plays, and using trick plays will work I think the bandwagon will crash before season over.

again hoping for best but if its ok I'll take a later bandwagon-they're coming by frequently
Moore is an odd duck.

In college, where he was the winningest QB in college football history, he refused to go out during the weekend. He was said to just sit in his room and draw plays for hours on end. When he was recruited in high school, he showed them huge volumes of playbooks he'd written, and they were said to be legitimate ideas.

He's done that here, too, as a player. Dak leans on him heavily and always has in the background.
 
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