Twitter: Ezekiel Elliott Must Be 'Smarter' After 'Mistake,' Says Cowboys RB Coach

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I hesitated to say this before, but I can't help but wonder if Jerry should send him to AA or something to that effect.

Yeah, it reminds me of the saying that "you can lead a horse to water but . . ." well, you know the rest! Maybe if Jerry insisted upon him doing so, it might help. Whatever the case may be, it seems something needs to change within himself before a solution is found. Let's hope that happens.
 
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Jerry’s going to muddy the waters again defending Elliott placing the league in a position where they’ll be more apt to get involved because of an owner who won’t police his own players.

If Jerry would call out Elliott and take some discipline himself perhaps the league wouldn’t feel Jerry is practically accepting this type of behavior.

I do agree with you here. I said on another post that Jerry should have come out and said that Zeke's actions were moronic and that the matter would be handled internally. It seems Zeke has a bit of a drinking problem.





As stated, I think Jerry should give Zeke a choice. Pay a fine, or go to AA/rehab.
 

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Yeah, this reminds me of the saying that "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." Maybe if Jerry insisted upon him doing so, it just might help. Whatever the case might be, it appears something needs to change within himself before a solution is found. Let's hope that happens.

I remember a reading that he lost a close friend and teammate in college to suicide.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/12/ohio-state-remembering-karageorge-as-they-play-for/

I wonder how much that is plaguing his mind. Either way, I think Jerry should send him to rehab just for his own safety and well-being.
 

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I remember a reading that he lost a close friend and teammate in college to suicide.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/12/ohio-state-remembering-karageorge-as-they-play-for/

I wonder how much that is plaguing his mind. Either way, I think Jerry should send him to rehab just for his own safety and well-being.

I had an uncle named Henry, who has now passed on many years ago. He was one of those characters who was normally extremely amiable but for whatever reason, he got mean whenever he drank. Zeke might have that tendency to some extent, by the looks of things. I don't know if Uncle Henry ever managed to change, since we moved far away from him and his family after a while. Anyhow, some guys just don't blend in very well with those around them after they've had "one too many."

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry decided to say something in time, although, in view of his own drinking habits, it might seem like "the pot calling the kettle black," if you know what I mean. Maybe Dak, seeing as how he's such a good friend, could suggest his seeking help. ;)
 

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FRISCO (105.3 The Fan) - It is the stated public position of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones that star running back Ezekiel Elliott's "Vegas Video'' isn't worthy of "consequences,'' a position that sources tell me has ruffled the feathers of NFL higher-ups.

Maybe Cowboys running backs coach Gary Brown's position will massage those feathers back into place.

It’s a situation you don’t want to be in, but we all make mistakes,” said Brown after Wednesday's OTA workout here inside The Star. “Even the greatest leaders make mistakes. We have to be understanding of that. ... We have talked to him about doing better and moving forward.''

The "mistake''? A recent 3 a.m. conflict in Las Vegas that ended up on video, showing Elliott eventually being handcuffed by police. He was not arrested and no charges have been filed. But I'm told the NFL is investigating the situation in accordance with its personal conduct policy -- the same policy that put Elliott's behavior in the spotlight in 2017 when the NFL handed him that contested and controversial six-game suspension.

Part of Jones' position, as he responded to my question about Elliott's otherwise exemplary behavior this offseason, is about the good being achieved by Elliott outweighing the bad (or at least what the NFL judged to be "bad,'' as law enforcement officials never have arrested Elliott for any infraction). And indeed, his charity work, his efforts as an unofficial mascot of the NHL's Dallas Stars and his gesture to pay for the funeral of a slain teen in St. Louis figure to earn him points here -- maybe to the degree that he only receives a fine as a result of the Vegas incident.

Said Brown: "We can’t beat him down for that (negative in Las Vegas). Obviously, we don’t want him in that situation. We talked to him and move on. He understands, ‘I can’t put myself in that position. I have got to be smarter.’ We all make mistakes.”

Meanwhile, Elliott's on-field work has continues at the highest level. The two-time NFL rushing champ continues to rank as arguably the team's best player, and Brown and young teammates say, one of its best leaders, too. Rookie Tony Pollard told reporters on Wednesday that Zeke has led the "bonding'' effort in the position group.

“He’s done a great job with all the running backs, just getting us together, having us over to his house for cookouts, and just bonding,” Pollard said. “In here he’s been helping us with little pointers and things we can sharpen up and get our game better with.”

Added Brown: “He has been a great leader, great with the young guys. He is an awesome dude, a big-brother type with the young guys.”

and how many times does he tell himself this before he believes or acts upon it?
 

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Don't flatter yourself. Still waiting for a reason why that's different. Not sure why you can harass someone and get physical just because you know them. Being dismissive isn't an argument. I believe in principles.
So to get this straight, two teammates on a football field who get in each others face or even shove each other is no different then Zeke shoving a security guard or a stanger?
 

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It is different than simply being smarter, he seems to gravitate towards nonsense that gets him in trouble.
 

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Isn't it great that the running backs coach serves as the spokesperson for the players dumb actions.

Oh, but "he gets it"...

:rolleyes:
 

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So to get this straight, two teammates on a football field who get in each others face or even shove each other is no different then Zeke shoving a security guard or a stanger?

When is assault not assault? Explain the difference.
 

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Yep

It’s beginning to look like Jerry is part of the problem not policing his own players.

Yeah... he's so much of a problem that he's literally got the biggest franchise in sports. Wait a minute...
 

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When is assault not assault? Explain the difference.
My god, this is sooooooo dumb, I’m not even getting into this. Honestly, this may be the most stupid argument I have ever seen on this site and that is saying a lot. You’re trying to argue that a tackle on a football field is no different then me tackling some dude standing in line at the grocery store according to the law or that a coach slapping a player on the butt is no different than me walking up to some stranger and doing the same.
 

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My god, this is sooooooo dumb, I’m not even getting into this. Honestly, this may be the most stupid argument I have ever seen on this site and that is saying a lot. You’re trying to argue that a tackle on a football field is no different then me tackling some dude standing in line at the grocery store according to the law or that a coach slapping a player on the butt is no different than me walking up to some stranger and doing the same.

Those are strawmen, which brings us back to your reading comprehension. I'm saying the incident I cited is no different, or worse actually, than what Zeke did. You can't really address it so you just say it's dumb. If it is, it should be easy to explain why. But you can't, so it's not, and you have therefore ceded the point.
 

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My god, this is sooooooo dumb, I’m not even getting into this. Honestly, this may be the most stupid argument I have ever seen on this site and that is saying a lot. .
Don't give up yet, I'm sure you have more arguments. ;)
 

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Being honest here, l doubt I'd even be alive if l had Zeke's $$ and fame when l was in my early 20's. I totally understand Zeke wanting to have a good time and party, but this is not the 70's or 80's when social media was non-existent. I look back at some of the stupid #%&* l used to do and l'm amazed l'm still around.

Zeke's problem is what most of our problems were back when we were his age. He's immature and hasn't developed good common sense yet. Contrary to popular belief, being smart has much less to do about survival than common sense. I've known people with multiple degrees that l wouldn't want standing next to me when #%&* hits the fan. I'll give Zeke the benefit of the doubt for now, but he needs to grow up real fast...

You're right. Pretty much on all counts. But everyone growing up knows this and acts according to their situation. Zeke is not confusing this time period for the 70s and 80s. He has to know everyone has a camera. The reason I'll give him the benefit of the doubt is because a lot of this stuff is blown out of proportion. I care about this stuff only as far as it affects the Cowboys. I really don't care about what Zeke does off the field beyond that.
 

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Yep

It’s beginning to look like Jerry is part of the problem not policing his own players.
It is his openness about it that pisses the league off. Hell, he might have brought about Elliott's time out by shooting off his mouth. The league has fined him before because he can't keep his mouth shut. His mouth is like a plumber, open the pipe and **** just runs out.
 

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I hesitated to say this before, but I can't help but wonder if Jerry should send him to AA or something to that effect.
He can't send him anywhere. His only choice is to cut him or sit him. If they don't have some verbiage in his next contract dealing with this, they're bigger fools than even I think they are.

They need to have conditions of employment, as much as the CBA will allow. And they were not caught by surprise as it was well documented about his father moving to Columbus and that stunt after the MI game. There were some red flags about him form the beginning but with Booger, talent trumps character.
 

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It is his openness about it that pisses the league off. Hell, he might have brought about Elliott's time out by shooting off his mouth. The league has fined him before because he can't keep his mouth shut. His mouth is like a plumber, open the pipe and **** just runs out.

And people love him to the tune of the most valued franchise in sports.
 

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That all sounds swell from his RB coach but does he think he's the first to tell Elliott to straighten up and fly right? People have been trying to do this for at least 5 years with him.

This is nothing more than damage control from the "how does this look" department of the Cowboys.
 

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Don't give up yet, I'm sure you have more arguments. ;)
I have plenty more, that’s the problem. I have to pick and chose not so wisely but this is one I’m not even getting into.

IMOF, since I give up I’ll officially concede. If he thinks tackling each other on the football field deserves the same amount of punishment, and be classified as assault, as myself tackling someone standing at a bus stop then he can keep on thinking that.
 
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I have plenty more, that’s the problem. I have to pick and chose not so wisely but this is one I’m not even getting into.

IMOF, since I give up I’ll officially concede. If he thinks tackling each other on the football field deserves the same amount of punishment, and be classified as assault, as myself tackling someone standing at a bus stop then he can keep on thinking that.

I don't think that. It's telling that you have to change my argument to dismiss it. Try again.
 
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