Jerry’s bad timing

jazzcat22 said:

Then I would like to be that way if it makes me a multi-billionaire.

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Ikr! I just wish alot of that success spilled over into the football side of things as far as winning. I had zero plans on Dallas going this long without a Championship or SB.

SoupcanSam said:

Yep. As times went, alot of those tribes ventured off and started living off modification. As their health went so did life spans.

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That's one possibility. Another is that those 500 year life spans were exaggerated in the first place.

jazzcat22 said:

Maybe we need a bash zone.

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I still miss Drama Zone. "Overtime" Zone just doesn't have the same vibe.

Jerry’s timing seems pretty spot on to me, the $ just never stops flowing to him. Anyone saying that the man has bad timing is just creating Fake News and Is stretching real hard to just have to $ITCH about something. Terrible way to have to go through life.

jazzcat22 said:

Maybe we need a bash zone.

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We have one. It's just labeled the "Fan Zone".

Maybe it's our bad timing. Had he not hired Jimmy and given him the keys to the team part of it and had not that been the perfect time for that to happen and for all the dominoes to fall perfectly on time, he would have had to sell the team like Bright did. But then, does the team have 5 rings?

The biggest problem for us was the quick turnaround. Buy the team, fire the legend, hire the brashest coach in college, trade the biggest star, pick some players and bang, bang....dynasty. Jimmy made it look too easy and for all his boating tendencies, he has always been a coachaholic, which is why he hung it up. He lived coaching.

Booger sees how easy it was and thinks that's real, nothing to it, 500 coaches could do that and proves that with Barry but he didn't learn the lesson, Barry won with Jimmy's team and could have won 4 in a row if he'd approached it like Jimmy always did, keep the pressure on.

Booger thinks the GM job is easier than it really is, although he's only a part-time one and there's that time issue again. He remarked that he is his own GM because another wouldn't be willing to take the risks he's willing to take without really asking himself why they wouldn't. He admitted he should have fired himself but excused that by saying he didn't have to.

This has all been a crazy journey for us. We start with that miraculous turnaround and think that's the future but when we see the real future, we are unprepared for that and feel we are owed more than the CLE, DET and WAS fans. We have a team run by an on the job training program for not only the family but coaches as well.

However, that is what was not what is so I think the Booger bashing has run it's course for me. It is not his handling of the team that has been my problem with him anyway, he owns it, run it. It's his annoying personality and spotlight seeking and need to materialize his ego with his toys.

I look at him now and say "he is not what he used to be" so why hold that against him? That shot from the war room, tell me you didn't go "yeah, finally" when you saw him make the call to stay with the OL on his board. He's a stubborn man and it takes the stubborn ones longer to learn the error of their ways but I think he's learned and the one thing he's learned to do is be a better listener and listen to the people that know more than he does.

Jake said:

I love those stories. People living 500 years with no medical care, no sanitation, and worst of all no internet.

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Ancient Alien Astronauts say

YES

Sydla said:

How about just make a NFC Champ game? Only three teams haven't made a NFC Title game since 2000 - Commanders, Lions and us.

This run we are on isn't bad luck or just how the ball bounces. It's simple mismanagement and bad stewardship. It's also funny to see people talk about a slow rebuild despite the fact that we see time and time again, teams going through rebuilds and find real success in a matter of a few years.

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Lol, 'just.' I never suggested we've been doing the right things going back to 2000. Only that we've generally been doing the right things recently.

There are 32 teams in the NFL. Some of them are going to have success. Some of it's even going to be sustained.

Bobhaze said:

Blind spots. We all have them. Those areas of our lives where we cannot see what others see plainly. Unfortunately, the most powerful person in our favorite team’s front office has more blind spots than a blind man. And perhaps worse, his timing on when to make moves (changes) is terrible. In fact, it’s one of his biggest blind spots.

What I mean by bad timing is this: Jerry too often waits until something or someone so obviously needs to go, he is forced to make a change. This is is a very bad habit in the NFL, where timing is important both on and off the field.

How does Jerry have a bad sense of when it’s time to make a change? Let us count the ways:

• Early on in Jerry’s reign, he had the opposite problem than today by having a fast hook on his HC. Today the timing problem is having a long hook. Most owners would have fired their HC after 8 seasons for only making the playoffs 3 times and only winning 2 playoff games. Not JJ. I have fears that if the Cowboys go 8-8 next year, he finds a way to excuse keeping his red headed step son.

• He has a habit of hanging on to players who have long proven they are not worth it. Chaz Green, Gavin Escobar, Ro McClain, Josh Brent, Greg Hardy, to name a few. Loyalty is good in many aspects of life. But not for an NFL GM.

• Keeping key coaches around too long. Scott Linehan is the most recent example. After the debacle of 2017, he should have been fired. But then again, Garrett should have been fired on the tarmac in Atlanta after what Chaz Green was allowed to do.

• Jerry has a habit of talking too much, just when the team needs him to shut up. Whenever this team starts playing well or poorly, Jerry seems to talk the most. And most of his meaningless drivel does zero to actually help his team or his HC.

Will Jerry ever have any good timing? At 76, old ways die hard. But it will be interesting to see if Jerry does what is obvious to almost every Cowboys fan- if we don’t win big this year, Garrett must go.

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To add:

Jerry let both the OL and DL fall completely apart before attempting a fix. This cost us dearly in both wasted seasons and being forced to spend high draft picks on those areas. Bad timing.

Appears to me as if this bad timing is a result of just not comprehending what it takes to successfully manage a team in the NFL.

robjay04 said:

You brought up Chaz Green but wasn’t he cut the off-season after his disaster game? He went to camp but didn’t make the team.

Maybe you could argue we should’ve cut him during the season but the coaches probably thought he was a better player than that. He was considered good depth going into that season.

Greg Hardy was here for one season. We could’ve cut him when we were eliminated from the playoffs but he was still the best pass rusher on the team.

McClain was a low risk resigning. We drafted Jaylon Smith that off-season so we had no long term plans for him.

Josh Brent? He was an okay player. Team felt bad for him.

I’ll give you Escobar but it’s kind of hard to even see what a backup would do when Witten sees 98 percent of snaps.

Not including Hardy...I would estimate all the players you named accounted for less than 1.5 million in cap space over their last year here.

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Escobar: Not if you examine his skillset. Slow out of the breaks and a terrible blocker. You take a shot at a player like that in rounds 5-7. I can't quite figure out why we took him in the 2nd, but you can call it timing because we took him way too early in the draft. The excuse that we didn't give him the snaps doesn't work any more, as he's been w/ 4 NFL teams since we released him, and is currently a FA after trying to play in the now defunct AAF. I think you might want to change your narrative on Esco.

kskboys said:

Escobar: Not if you examine his skillset. Slow out of the breaks and a terrible blocker. You take a shot at a player like that in rounds 5-7. I can't quite figure out why we took him in the 2nd, but you can call it timing because we took him way too early in the draft. The excuse that we didn't give him the snaps doesn't work any more, as he's been w/ 4 NFL teams since we released him, and is currently a FA after trying to play in the now defunct AAF. I think you might want to change your narrative on Esco.

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The funny part of that is that he was "sold" as the remedy for the red zone scoring issue and his rap was decent speed once he got a running start but slow to build. How much of a running start is he going to get in the RZ?

kskboys said:

To add:

Jerry let both the OL and DL fall completely apart before attempting a fix. This cost us dearly in both wasted seasons and being forced to spend high draft picks on those areas. Bad timing.

Appears to me as if this bad timing is a result of just not comprehending what it takes to successfully manage a team in the NFL.

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You follow the ball, you shouldn't be building a team. The fact he was an ex OL was the most puzzling part of it. Hell, Jimmy was an ex DL and he got it, spent a 1st on a DT.

It all comes down to philosophy and Booger's hasn't changed enough and that's going to show in these contracts coming up. He doesn't believe that "defense wins championships" and Jimmy lived by that. Emmitt was a fallback after he missed on James Francis, Aikman was a must pick and Irvin was already there. You talk to Booger about the Patriots and he'll talk about Brady and miss the point.

CouchCoach said:

You follow the ball, you shouldn't be building a team. The fact he was an ex OL was the most puzzling part of it. Hell, Jimmy was an ex DL and he got it, spent a 1st on a DT.

It all comes down to philosophy and Booger's hasn't changed enough and that's going to show in these contracts coming up. He doesn't believe that "defense wins championships" and Jimmy lived by that. Emmitt was a fallback after he missed on James Francis, Aikman was a must pick and Irvin was already there. You talk to Booger about the Patriots and he'll talk about Brady and miss the point.

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And the 2 TE Offense!!!!!!!!!

cern said:

I have come to the point in my life where I look at jerry the man for what he is. shrewd businessman. great family man. philanthropist. someone who does sometimes care too much about a certain player. randy Gregory comes to mind. he's brought smiles to our faces with his "gl0--ry hole" comments. and infuriated us other times by bringing in guys like greg hardy. but he's taught Stephen well and will leave us with someone to guide the club into the future. enjoy as many sunsets as you can, jerry, and trust you have left your favorite toy in capable hands. must go before I make myself cry.

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That old ba_ _ _rd's gonna out live us all

Loyalty. It's something that can hurt you in today's NFL. But it's also something that people are willing to fight for when you stand behind them. Can't be tunnel vision

robjay04 said:

You brought up Chaz Green but wasn’t he cut the off-season after his disaster game? He went to camp but didn’t make the team.

Maybe you could argue we should’ve cut him during the season but the coaches probably thought he was a better player than that. He was considered good depth going into that season.

Greg Hardy was here for one season. We could’ve cut him when we were eliminated from the playoffs but he was still the best pass rusher on the team.

McClain was a low risk resigning. We drafted Jaylon Smith that off-season so we had no long term plans for him.

Josh Brent? He was an okay player. Team felt bad for him.

I’ll give you Escobar but it’s kind of hard to even see what a backup would do when Witten sees 98 percent of snaps.

Not including Hardy...I would estimate all the players you named accounted for less than 1.5 million in cap space over their last year here.

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Yea, not the best list of players.

I mean, if anything he should of included guys like Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson, and other bad QB's that were bad from start to finish.

Or, depending on your stance with RG not being reliable, Gregory could be mentioned. Debate about MJ aside, the dude has shown he can't stay off it and has failed more tests than he has sacks lol. Even then it makes sense why they are keeping him due to how cheap his contract is and the talent he has.

I think the best thing that Jerry has done as GM in recent times is to allow those with better talent evaluation skills to do what they do best. Needless to say, it took him what seemed like forever to give way to the inevitable. Perhaps numerous incidents such as the Johnny Manziel fiasco helped to bring about his inclination to step back and listen more to those with better judgment.

Sadly, the predictably bad timing with his vocal miscues is something that we'll have to live with as long as he's around.

Let's face it -- some things never change!

As long as Garrett's here Jerry will waste this newest generation of players.. it's a growing list.

Jake said:

It's June. It's either bash Jerry, bash JG, bash Dak, or talk about how we're loaded and going to win the Super Bowl with those guys.

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"I'm only bashing the zero divisional playoff wins, zero NFC championship appearances, & zero super bowl appearances in the past 24 years. Other than that, the Jones boys are killin' it!

ArtClink said:

"I'm only bashing the zero divisional playoff wins, zero NFC championship appearances, & zero super bowl appearances in the past 24 years. Other than that, the Jones boys are killin' it!

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Nothing to bash here. Their track record is awesome!!! People aren't saying anything different than they said the past 20 plus years. Jones boys are lighting it up. Showing the NFL who's boss...