Why Dak deserves to be one of the NFL's highest paid QBs

America's Cowboy · Jun 16, 2019

Red Dragon said:
If Dak leads us to the NFC title game next year, then okay, he's worth Top-5 QB money.

If not, no. Sorry, that 24-year drought is long enough.

I bet you (and most other Dak critics) didn't complain when #9 received Top-5 QB money, TWICE, even though he never led the Cowboys to an NFC title game?

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jun 16, 2019

bodi said:
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/fair-and-balanced-analysis-of-dak-prescott.434656/

he does not have the accuracy to throw the ball over the top into really tight windows

become more accurate

he falls away

the colts made the template to beat the cowboys stop the run make Dak beat you with man to man coverage down field

That game showed the O and D was not what we thought, especially the run game on the D side.

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I'll step to the plate.

You've admitted to me before when I pointed out you were intentionally ignoring facts that you do so to spin them to fit your narrative as any good debater would.

You've also thrown terms out that you refuse to define according to the way you see them. The FACT that you've been offered a brush to paint as you've seen fit and refused to do so shows you to be a clown.

Facts.

What the hell are you talking about? I don’t ever recall discussing with you about any of this.

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

OmerV said:
I posted this earlier, but Foles has played 7 years to Dak’s 3 years, yet Dak has more career wins, only one less career TD, and less than 300 fewer career yards than Foles, plus a higher QB rating. In addition, Foley’s has started 9 games over the last 3 years to Dak’s 48 starts.

The fact is Foles had a great playoff/Super Bowl run in 2017, and that has fooled fans into thinking that kind of play is his norm. But it isn’t. Foles hasn’t had a strong season since 2013, and other than 2013 has never had as strong a season as Dak’s worst season. Plus he’s 5 years older.

You actually think Dakster is a more prolific passer than Foles?

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

Red Dragon said:
If Dak leads us to the NFC title game next year, then okay, he's worth Top-5 QB money.

If not, no. Sorry, that 24-year drought is long enough.

Right.. show me the money.

This Dakster era is beginning to look much like the Romo era. I’m so excited ..

GenoT · Jun 16, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
You are insinuating that the lack of bombing is because of Dak and not the scheme or play calling.

Don’t really understand your point.

We just changed OC/play-callers because the FO obviously believes that Moore will be an improvement over Linehan. In other words, Linehan failed.

If the FO is correct, then Dak was actually being handicapped by Linehan in his first 3 seasons; which still resulted in 2 postseason appearances and woulda likely have been 3, had not Zeke been suspended for 6 games in 2017.

Once again, where is the indicator that Dak might be a risk to bomb in his 4th season?
:huh:

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
I bet you (and most other Dak critics) didn't complain when #9 received Top-5 QB money, TWICE, even though he never led the Cowboys to an NFC title game?

I did. I called out Jerry initially in 2007 for pulling the trigger too soon on his contract. I was a critic of Romo too. He had many flaws and wasn’t elite enough either for our dysfunctional organization. We had Slobbering fans for him too I argued with for 10 years.

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

GenoT said:
Don’t really understand your point.

We just changed OC/play-callers because the FO obviously believes that Moore will be an improvement over Linehan. In other words, Linehan failed.

If the FO is correct, then Dak was actually being handicapped by Linehan in his first 3 seasons; which still resulted in 2 postseason appearances and woulda likely have been 3, had not Zeke been suspended for 6 games in 2017.

Once again, where is the indicator that Dak might be a risk to bomb in his 4th season?

And you trust our FO?

OmerV · Jun 16, 2019

Diehardblues said:
You actually think Dakster is a more prolific passer than Foles?

I think Dak is a more productive and more consistently successful QB.

But that’s irrelevant anyway. The NFL is what matters, and the market foe a QB in Dak’s situation is what matters, and a QB who is younger and more productive will naturally be more valuable on the open market than a guy who has spent the majority of his career as a backup.

GenoT · Jun 16, 2019

Diehardblues said:
And you trust our FO?

Not completely; but they’ve generally done reasonably well the last 5-6 seasons.

We’ll see...

CowboysBravesSpurs · Jun 16, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
Nate Burleson makes the case why Dak Prescott deserves to be one of the NFL's highest paid QBs...

Like Nate Burleson said, "Show respect for Dak Prescott."

And like Michael Irvin said, "When you have the heart and soul and leader of your team at the quarterback position, I don't know why we're talking about his money," Irvin said. "That's worth $15-20 million, by itself, a year. Now you got to pay him to play football also. I mean, let's be real here. It shouldn't even be a discussion when we talk about it, and the amount of wins this man has had, and the way he's won football games. It shouldn't even be a discussion. It really shouldn't."

PS: Someone show me Wentz making such plays and pulling rabbits out of some magic hats like Dak is shown have done. Yet, Wentz got paid...

Havent been on this site in months, come back and this guy is STILL riding Dak's D. You have an unhealthy obsession.

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

OmerV said:
I think Dak is a more productive and more consistently successful QB.

But that’s irrelevant anyway. The NFL is what matters, and the market foe a QB in Dak’s situation is what matters, and a QB who is younger and more productive will naturally be more valuable on the open market than a guy who has spent the majority of his career as a backup.

Generally , probably so. But I seriously can’t imagine Dakster being more valuable than Foles in FA.

Take Dak out of this offensive talent around him and he’s a bottom feeder IMO. Much like we saw without Elliot in 2017 and Cooper last year. Average to below average and non playoff team.

America's Cowboy · Jun 16, 2019

Diehardblues said:
I did. I called out Jerry initially in 2007 for pulling the trigger too soon on his contract. I was a critic of Romo too. He had many flaws and wasn’t elite enough either for our dysfunctional organization. We had Slobbering fans for him too I argued with for 10 years.

You are absolutely correct, Greg!!! You were also a critic of Romo's flaws and having to overpay him...on the old forums. This is true. Wow, I miss those old forums.

408Cowboy · Jun 16, 2019

Diehardblues said:
What the hell are you talking about? I don’t ever recall discussing with you about any of this.

Every time I remind you of the dumb crap you spout you say the same thing.

America's Cowboy · Jun 16, 2019

CowboysBravesSpurs said:
Havent been on this site in months, come back and this guy is STILL riding Dak's D. You have an unhealthy obsession.

Get lost Romo flunkie. Still whining I see. Need a tissue?

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

GenoT said:
Not completely; but they’ve generally done reasonably well the last 5-6 seasons.

We’ll see...

They’ve done better but with still some of the same suspect decisions. I’m still not sold we have all of the priorities in place.

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

408Cowboy said:
Every time I remind you of the dumb crap you spout you say the same thing.

I seriously don’t ever recall discussing any of this with you before. I’ve only recently seen you on this forum and you appear to have more history and issues with me than I recall. Unless there’s some history going back to old DC forum?

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
Get lost Romo flunkie. Still whining I see. Need a tissue?

That could come back to haunt the Slobbering Dakster homies. Lol

Who BTW are beginning to resemble those Romo romantics. Getting all butthurt over their hero getting criticized.

GenoT · Jun 16, 2019

Diehardblues said:
They’ve done better but with still some of the same suspect decisions. I’m still not sold we have all of the priorities in place.

Two div-round playoff appearances (likely woulda been 3, but for the Zeke suspension) in the last three seasons is the most sustained success we’ve seen since The Triplets broke up.

The next step will be to get past the div-round — which we certainly have the talent to do so. Granted, coaching may still be an issue.

ONCE again, we’ll see...

Diehardblues · Jun 16, 2019

GenoT said:
Two div-round playoff appearances (likely woulda been 3, but for the Zeke suspension) in the last three seasons is the most sustained success we’ve seen since the the triplets broke up.

The next step will be to get past the div-round — which we certainly have the talent to do so. Granted, coaching may still be an issue.

ONCE again, we’ll see...

Nawww.. we went to playoffs 3 times in 4 years 2006,07 and 09. Many thought we were headed in a better direction then too. This has the same odor.

As usual , we aren’t as good as some think we are. Yea, we will see.

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