Dez sides with Beas

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

cern said:
bease and dez haven't said anything different than 100's of posters right here on the zone. and we said it first. but for a player, especially two who are no longer with the team, it's time to move on. bease needs to get on the practice field with the bills, and dez needs to get in shape if he wants a job. crying over spilt milk.

Do you really think a five minute conversation is preventing either one from doing their work?

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

erod said:
Hey, Dez, part of the reason it was predictable was because you knew about 3 routes.

And the excuse for the offense sucking even worse last year?

(Hint: You can't blame Dez)

erod · Jun 17, 2019

Dak is a young and limited QB.

Dez knew how to run 3 routes.

Beasley can't get deep.

Witten couldn't get deep anymore either.

Zeke is always the best option.

Predictability was kind of cooked into the ingredients, don't you think?

cowboy_ron · Jun 17, 2019

stasheroo said:
Actually, it's about them being right.

It's like having a new girlfriend after your last one dumps you and you just can't stop talking about and berating the ex.......time to move on and stop crying about it.........Last year when Dez was cut he went totally psychotic for a few months which probably showed other teams why they didn't want him.

cern · Jun 17, 2019

stasheroo said:
Do you really think a five minute conversation is preventing either one from doing their work?

who can say? bease continues to recover from his core injury. dez hasn't done anything since we let him go.

CouchCoach · Jun 17, 2019

What is wrong with any former player speaking out? Hell, Duane Thomas did it while he was a Cowboy. Bennett did it and now these two are speaking out and either you put credence in their opinion or you do not but they do have a right to their opinion, even sour grapes, if you think so.

I will say one thing for Beasley, I did go back and look at the games prior to his remark about being open and he was NFL slot WR open. I also didn't blame him for speaking out then, or Hurns, because the WR's were the ones getting called out for the lack of offense. Would you take the criticism if it was wrong?

D Players for the other side have been calling out Garrett's offense for years, hear that about other teams? Why is that? I think it's because of all the unwarranted attention the Cowboys get when it's not about what's in the field. If I were a player, I would be sick of it. There was more coverage on Garrett's lack of an extension than on Belichick winning the SB with great coaching.

I get sick of the Cowboys coverage and that's my favorite team.

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

cowboy_ron said:
It's like having a new girlfriend after your last one dumps you and you just can't stop talking about and berating the ex.......time to move on and stop crying about it.........Last year when Dez was cut he went totally psychotic for a few months which probably showed other teams why they didn't want him.

So exactly when can you talk about your past experiences? What's the statute of limitations on that? Exactly how long did Beasley have? What was his window?

408Cowboy · Jun 17, 2019

erod said:
Dak is a young and limited QB.

Dez knew how to run 3 routes.

Beasley can't get deep.

Witten couldn't get deep anymore either.

Zeke is always the best option.

Predictability was kind of cooked into the ingredients, don't you think?

Damn shame their weren't any coaches capable of teaching Dez more routes. Zeke hasn't been here the entire time this has been a problem.

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

cern said:
who can say? bease continues to recover from his core injury. dez hasn't done anything since we let him go.

I think we can both safely say that talking with someone for five minutes isn't the difference between success and failure. Pick a better reason for why it's wrong for either guy to talk.

Again, some want to shoot the messenger because they don;t want to deal with the message. Or in this case, the truth.

cern · Jun 17, 2019

stasheroo said:
I think we can both safely say that talking with someone for five minutes isn't the difference between success and failure. Pick a better reason for why it's wrong for either guy to talk.

Again, some want to shoot the messenger because they don;t want to deal with the message. Or in this case, the truth.

I have no problem with players talking. frankly, I think they should do it when they're playing, not after they're gone. cooper also criticized the offense last year. I had no problem with it. but in the case where you're no longer with the club, talking negatively is a cheap shot. have the testicular fortitude to say it while you're on the team. just do it constructively. cooper did. hurns did. seems someone in the front office took note.

CouchCoach · Jun 17, 2019

cowboy_ron said:
It's like having a new girlfriend after your last one dumps you and you just can't stop talking about and berating the ex.......time to move on and stop crying about it.........Last year when Dez was cut he went totally psychotic for a few months which probably showed other teams why they didn't want him.

He was a head case on his best day going back to OSU. Don't think other teams aren't aware of how relieved his coaches and players were that he wasn't going to play his senior season. If a player is going to be an awesome person, he better be better on the talent than Bryant was.

But his shining moment was upon getting cut acting like the jilted lover. "I am going to sleep with your best friends"!! Then, the best friends aren't interested. I thought that was funnier than hell. No teams knew more about his weaknesses than the teams that scouted him twice a season, every season.

One thing about this forum and the other I will never get, why so many Dezzies? Some had him as their favorite player ever and I never got that. They made excuses for him and his behavior and that was a little puzzling. Hell, I always thought the reason he threw up the X was because that's how he signed his name.

cowboy_ron · Jun 17, 2019

CouchCoach said:
He was a head case on his best day going back to OSU. Don't think other teams aren't aware of how relieved his coaches and players were that he wasn't going to play his senior season. If a player is going to be an awesome person, he better be better on the talent than Bryant was.

But his shining moment was upon getting cut acting like the jilted lover. "I am going to sleep with your best friends"!! Then, the best friends aren't interested. I thought that was funnier than hell. No teams knew more about his weaknesses than the teams that scouted him twice a season, every season.

One thing about this forum and the other I will never get, why so many Dezzies? Some had him as their favorite player ever and I never got that. They made excuses for him and his behavior and that was a little puzzling. Hell, I always thought the reason he threw up the X was because that's how he signed his name.

Dez always saw himself on the Megatron/Julio Jones level but he never lived up to it.......he looked decent at times here because the overall WR corp was pretty weak.

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

cern said:
I have no problem with players talking. frankly, I think they should do it when they're playing, not after they're gone. cooper also criticized the offense last year. I had no problem with it. but in the case where you're no longer with the club, talking negatively is a cheap shot. have the testicular fortitude to say it while you're on the team. just do it constructively. cooper did. hurns did. seems someone in the front office took note.

If you think that you're getting 'truth' from people inside the building, you're being naive. Truth comes after people are no longer getting a paycheck, and no longer beholden to an organization. Have you never heard the phrase 'toeing the company line'?

Think about your own life experiences, you're not going to 'bit the hand that feeds you' and speak negatively of the person or group that pays you.

And I'll reiterate, this isn't simply two guys making outrageous claims that can be dismissed as 'sour grapes' these are two guys who have been on the inside, confirming what we fans, tons of commentators, writers, and current and former players have said. The Dallas Cowboys run a rudimentary systems that makes it harder on their players and easier on opponents to figure out. Uninventive, uninspired coaching puts the players at a distinct disadvantage.

This is simply public confirmation of what we knew from someone who's lived it.

BrassCowboy · Jun 17, 2019

G2 · Jun 17, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Dez seems more "butthurt" because he was blamed as THE reason for failure rather than looking at Linehan. And yes, this place did blame him, and yes, he was uses as a scapegoat.

Beasley is simply stating he is happier in Buffalo because it's not a circus. Again, all of you constantly say Jerry built the new stadium to be a country club and for money rather than football.

WHAT ARE THEY SAYING THAT IS WRONG? Haha, you're crying just to cry.

Bryant was certainly, at the very least part of the problem. And if you think Buffalo isn't a circus I invite you to come to Buffalo.

Beasley hasn't taken a single snap in a game in Buffalo yet, now all of a sudden it's a blissful location? Lol, no. And wait until the late season games.

erod · Jun 17, 2019

408Cowboy said:
Damn shame their weren't any coaches capable of teaching Dez more routes. Zeke hasn't been here the entire time this has been a problem.

Dez is a child. He can't learn new routes. That's why Okie State always had him on the coach's side in college.

Dallas tried, but he couldn't grasp it. Romo used to change his routes at the line of scrimmage for him.

There's a reason nobody called with big offers when he came available.

ShortRound · Jun 17, 2019

Problem is, the Jones just see this as most of this board, sour grapes.
They can't see what the problem is, their coaching. Point is moot.

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

erod said:
Dez is a child. He can't learn new routes. That's why Okie State always had him on the coach's side in college.

Dallas tried, but he couldn't grasp it. Romo used to change his routes at the line of scrimmage for him.

There's a reason nobody called with big offers when he came available.

Where's our genius former offensive coordinator working now?

Who hired him?

Derp.

CouchCoach · Jun 17, 2019

cowboy_ron said:
Dez always saw himself on the Megatron/Julio Jones level but he never lived up to it.......he looked decent at times here because the overall WR corp was pretty weak.

What helped him the most was Romo getting with him, and just as much in a friend role, and figuring out how to max out his talent because he had talent. It was different than a Pearson, Irvin or Owens and I do credit Romo with figuring out how to best use him.

Once he figured out the 50/50 ball aspect, the red zone and the back shoulder fade, he was using him to max that talent. But when he first got him, he struggled trying to figure him out.
What I think Romo did was go back to when he first got Keyshawn and he made that comment "Tony just doesn't know I'm open" and he was right, Romo wasn't used to throwing receivers open and I think Dak struggles with that concept because he's a ball protector a lot more than Romo was.

Romo and Bryant were a pretty good set but not so much with Prescott. And if he'd taken the Romo way his first season, he might not be the QB1 today. That style is not his game. And that's why they cut him, Romo's still QB1 and they don't.

Stash · Jun 17, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
Problem is, the Jones just see this as most of this board, sour grapes.
They can't see what the problem is, their coaching. Point is moot.

It took them several years longer than they should have for sure. But they finally saw Linehan for the problem that he was and fired his ***, despite Garrett's wishes.

And now there's one left, and he's in the last year of his contract. They've been far too patient for far too long, but even that has reached its end.

Win or get out.

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