Video: PFT: Is Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach the best Cowboys QB ever?

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Staubach.......it's not even close.
I chose Rodger Staubach simply because how we extended plays. Troy was so accurate you didn't have to do that. It's hard to choose one over the other. Different time different place. But they both deserve Hall of Fame honors. That's my opinion
 

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You can laugh at my comment my cowboy brother. Only time is going to prove whether I was correct or not. But I see a winner in the third year, on-the-job training quarterback. He should have been on the bench learning. I truly believe he understands NFL defenses. Which I don't think he did so well before. He has all the attributes. Again only X going to tell
 

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Is Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach the best Cowboys QB ever?

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Roger was much better. I have serious doubts that Aikman could carry a team. Great leadership, toughness, short to medium accuracy was great, but he was more a product of those teams he was on.
 

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I chose Rodger Staubach simply because how we extended plays. Troy was so accurate you didn't have to do that. It's hard to choose one over the other. Different time different place. But they both deserve Hall of Fame honors. That's my opinion

Can you please quit spelling Roger with a "d" in it, Captain America's name is Roger Staubach!!
 

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Staubach was better. Aikman was only able to succeed if you make everything just right around him - one of the best offensive lines, one of the best running backs, one of the best defenses, etc. Staubach managed to get more done with less. Don't get me wrong, Aikman was a great passer and a precision guy, but he was like an expensive sports car - only works if every component is working right and finely tuned.

And if anyone is going to bring up the 3>2 argument, Aikman went up in the Super Bowl against two weak Bills teams while Staubach had to duke it out against the 1970s dynasty Steelers. And if it weren't for the refs' terrible officiating in SBXIII, Roger should have had Ring #3 as well.
Staubach was one play away from winning 10 and 13 and also the Boys would have sailed through 1972 had Staubach not have gotten hurt by a cheap shot in preseason.
 

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Statistically, Romo was the best. He just never had that "it" factor that 12 and 8 did. I can't choose between the two. That's why they share space on my Cowboys Mt. Rushmore.
 

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Wasn't around for it, but I would say Staubach. My #2 would be Romo. And I know this will trigger many, but I look at what Aikman was able to accomplish or just be able to do as a QB with a stacked team or with an average team and my hype and praise turned into sort of disappointment. Given the right team and right system he was excellent, but we saw what he was without those. I say the exact same things about Brady even though i think he's top 5 (I don't have any QB rated in any specific order) and he's had his average and poor games, but we've yet to see him hit a wall and stay there.
 

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Statistically, Romo was the best. He just never had that "it" factor that 12 and 8 did. I can't choose between the two. That's why they share space on my Cowboys Mt. Rushmore.
to be fair this is used against him quite a lot and I feel like it's just a blanket term for why the team didn't get it done. Take for instance Brady's last game. He surely didn't have the "it" factor in that game, but was fortunate to have a team do their job. Ignore all other games, I'm simply talking about this one game, the biggest game of them all. Just taking into consideration the coaches we've had, the support he's had, it really didn't line up much over the last 20+ years.
 

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This debate seems to surface often on this forum. And probably for good reason: it's a fun argument. And let's face it, how many franchises can boast of not one, but two, HOF and multiple SB-winning QBs?

My avatar should give it away. Roger Staubach is the greatest QB in Dallas Cowboys history. I also stand by the argument that Aikman is no. 2, with all respect to Dandy Don, Danny White and Tony Romo.

Staubach only played 8 full seasons as a starter, due to his military commitment and injury. He took his team to the SB four teams - or 50% of the seasons he completed. Only Tom Brady can match that. If you look at each QB and compare his career QB rating to the average NFL QB ratings during his career, no QB has a higher point differential, in any decade, than Staubach.

He played heroically in two epic losses to one of the greatest dynasties in NFL history. And in SB X, he did so without a running attack - especially in the 2nd half - to keep the Steelers honest. Staubach was sacked 7 times in SB X, and that he wasn't sacked more was a testimony to his greatness. Tom Brady managed 31 combined points in two SBs vs the NYG D. The G-men had a good pass rush in both of those SBs, but they didn't exactly have Joe Greene and the Steelers front seven, which featured three HOFers and several other Pro Bowlers (and a HOF corner in Mel Blount). How would Brady have fared vs that Pittsburgh pass rush in SB X? And without Lynn Swann making two spectacular catches and L.C. Greenwood's four sacks, Staubach has three SB wins under his belt.

In the rematch vs Pittsburgh in SB XIII, Staubach played his heart out. The Cowboys only weakness that year was at CB, and Bradshaw made them pay dearly. Of course, all the breaks went to Pittsburgh that day in the Orange Bowl. I'm not sure Joe Montana could have pulled that game out.

Staubach would probably be considered not only the Cowboys best QB but the GOAT had the Cowboys beaten the Steelers in those two contests. Roger led a team in transition with 12 rookies in 1975 to face Pittsburgh, and in 1978, Dallas fielded one of the best teams ever to not win the SB. It just wasn't meant to be. But neither Montana nor Brady faced defenses the likes of the 70s Steelers in any of their combined 13 SBs.

Too many Cowboys fans here disrespect Aikman - perhaps to justify placing Romo or even Prescott above him - but Troy was a great QB. Stronger arm than Roger and more accurate. He gets points taken away by some here for playing with great teams. Does Bradshaw lose any status for playing with four HOFers on offense and another four on defense? Bradshaw handed off to a HOFer, played behind one of the greatest centers of all time and threw the ball to two guys in Canton. Montana threw to the best WR in history, had perhaps the best offensive-minded coach in history, and played on some historically great teams, especially the 89 team, which I regard as one of the three greatest teams ever (92 Cowboys and 85 Bears; with 75/78 Steelers, 91 Skins and 77 Cowboys not that far behind).

Great QBs elevate the game of the players around them. Montana, Marino, Brady all did/do that. So did Roger and Troy.

Stats are not the be-all-and-end-all. And even more so when comparing guys like Roger who played 6 of 8 seasons under the pre-1978 rule changes. Receivers were getting mugged all the way through their routes in those days. OL could not extend their arms. DL used the head slap. And passing trees were much less complicated and there were less formations to work off (e.g., 4 WR and 5 WR sets).

I'm glad the Cowboys have had both no. 12 and no. 8. With a few breaks, both could have one 1 or 2 more SBs.

Maybe Dak will win multiple rings. As a fan, I hope so.
 

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This debate seems to surface often on this forum. And probably for good reason: it's a fun argument. And let's face it, how many franchises can boast of not one, but two, HOF and multiple SB-winning QBs?

My avatar should give it away. Roger Staubach is the greatest QB in Dallas Cowboys history. I also stand by the argument that Aikman is no. 2, with all respect to Dandy Don, Danny White and Tony Romo.

Staubach only played 8 full seasons as a starter, due to his military commitment and injury. He took his team to the SB four teams - or 50% of the seasons he completed. Only Tom Brady can match that. If you look at each QB and compare his career QB rating to the average NFL QB ratings during his career, no QB has a higher point differential, in any decade, than Staubach.

He played heroically in two epic losses to one of the greatest dynasties in NFL history. And in SB X, he did so without a running attack - especially in the 2nd half - to keep the Steelers honest. Staubach was sacked 7 times in SB X, and that he wasn't sacked more was a testimony to his greatness. Tom Brady managed 31 combined points in two SBs vs the NYG D. The G-men had a good pass rush in both of those SBs, but they didn't exactly have Joe Greene and the Steelers front seven, which featured three HOFers and several other Pro Bowlers (and a HOF corner in Mel Blount). How would Brady have fared vs that Pittsburgh pass rush in SB X? And without Lynn Swann making two spectacular catches and L.C. Greenwood's four sacks, Staubach has three SB wins under his belt.

In the rematch vs Pittsburgh in SB XIII, Staubach played his heart out. The Cowboys only weakness that year was at CB, and Bradshaw made them pay dearly. Of course, all the breaks went to Pittsburgh that day in the Orange Bowl. I'm not sure Joe Montana could have pulled that game out.

Staubach would probably be considered not only the Cowboys best QB but the GOAT had the Cowboys beaten the Steelers in those two contests. Roger led a team in transition with 12 rookies in 1975 to face Pittsburgh, and in 1978, Dallas fielded one of the best teams ever to not win the SB. It just wasn't meant to be. But neither Montana nor Brady faced defenses the likes of the 70s Steelers in any of their combined 13 SBs.

Too many Cowboys fans here disrespect Aikman - perhaps to justify placing Romo or even Prescott above him - but Troy was a great QB. Stronger arm than Roger and more accurate. He gets points taken away by some here for playing with great teams. Does Bradshaw lose any status for playing with four HOFers on offense and another four on defense? Bradshaw handed off to a HOFer, played behind one of the greatest centers of all time and threw the ball to two guys in Canton. Montana threw to the best WR in history, had perhaps the best offensive-minded coach in history, and played on some historically great teams, especially the 89 team, which I regard as one of the three greatest teams ever (92 Cowboys and 85 Bears; with 75/78 Steelers, 91 Skins and 77 Cowboys not that far behind).

Great QBs elevate the game of the players around them. Montana, Marino, Brady all did/do that. So did Roger and Troy.

Stats are not the be-all-and-end-all. And even more so when comparing guys like Roger who played 6 of 8 seasons under the pre-1978 rule changes. Receivers were getting mugged all the way through their routes in those days. OL could not extend their arms. DL used the head slap. And passing trees were much less complicated and there were less formations to work off (e.g., 4 WR and 5 WR sets).

I'm glad the Cowboys have had both no. 12 and no. 8. With a few breaks, both could have one 1 or 2 more SBs.

Maybe Dak will win multiple rings. As a fan, I hope so.




I don't ever see other fanbases disrespect their HOF QBs like Cowboy fans do. Most of the QBs in the HOF played with great teams.
 

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Both were surrounded by considerable talent and great coaches. Aikman would have won with the teams playing with roger and vice versa. The answer will always be subjective.
 

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Staubach.
If Romo could have stayed healthy he could've made a run at best Cowboy QB ever--he was outstanding in his latter years.

To me 2016 was such a loss. If Romo could have stayed healthy, imagine what he could have done with that team. Did you see what a rookie did with that team?

It was also a “loss” because it would have settled whether Romo was as great as we all believe he was outside his injuries, if he could or couldn’t get over the playoff hump with THAT team.
 

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Adjusted for era, where league average each season is 100 and higher is better.

Code:
Year    Rate+
1970       76
1971*     144
1973      133
1974      103
1975*     112
1976*     116
1977*     125
1978*     126
1979*     132

Code:
Year    Rate+
1989       74
1990       86
1991*     114
1992*     118
1993*     129
1994*     109
1995*     122
1996*     103
1997      101
1998      113
1999      104
2000       81

It's not close, it's Staubach at #1 with a bullet. That's not even counting how he was a much, much better runner too.
 
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