Dez sides with Beas

G2 · Jun 19, 2019

xwalker said:
The only thing that worries me about the OLine is deep behind Tyron at LT.

Fleming is OK for a game here and there but the season would be doomed if he had to start most of the games at LT.

I hope they continue to give Connor Williams practice snaps at OT even if he is going to be the starting LG. Once the season is in progress, it would be too late to move him to OT if he had not practiced there in training camp.

From what I've heard, Conner is coming along. But I hope Smith can be productive.

McKDaddy · Jun 19, 2019

xwalker said:
The only thing that worries me about the OLine is deep behind Tyron at LT.

Fleming is OK for a game here and there but the season would be doomed if he had to start most of the games at LT.

I hope they continue to give Connor Williams practice snaps at OT even if he is going to be the starting LG. Once the season is in progress, it would be too late to move him to OT if he had not practiced there in training camp.

Heck, i worry about Tyron. If we truly change our offensive tactics & Dak has become a decisive deliverer of the ball, then we can run passing plays that doesn't ask the O line to block for 4-6 seconds. This will benefit all the linemen and frustrate the crap out of defenses.

On a side note, for goodness sake I hope they get a killer mindset on offense. If we are rolling, put the game away & get some of your fragile players out of the game (ie, Tyron). How many games have we gotten a good lead then went completely conservative and end up keeping all our starters in the game the whole way (or darn near) because we kept letting the other team hang around with a chance to steal it? Plus it gets lesser players valuable reps.

Future · Jun 19, 2019

ItzKelz said:
I side with the route running of Amari Cooper that proves that both Dez and Cole were below average in creating separation.

It's like people didn't read the comments.

Beasley said he could easily be taken away with bracket coverage, as the scheme dictated. It's absolutely correct, and has 0 today with his route running.

This is stuff that has been known for 5 years.

Stash · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
It's like people didn't read the comments.

Beasley said he could easily be taken away with bracket coverage, as the scheme dictated. It's absolutely correct, and has 0 today with his route running.

This is stuff that has been known for 5 years.

And yet some people still can't accept it? Amazing isn't it?

SoupcanSam · Jun 19, 2019

TexasHillbilly said:
Wrong or right from whoever's point of view, it's time for Cole to move on. He might have a bright future with the Bills. Your old team is just that, your old employer. Bad coaches, bad system, whatever. No team is perfect and the Bills are included in that list. I could talk about my past employers till the cows come home but it would not do me any good. All it does is make me sound disgruntled to my current boss and makes me a negative little twit.

stasheroo said:
Some just can't bear to hear the truth, so they shoot the messenger.

I accept the truth more than not. But I really enjoy shooting the messenger regardless.

xwalker · Jun 19, 2019

McKDaddy said:
Heck, i worry about Tyron. If we truly change our offensive tactics & Dak has become a decisive deliverer of the ball, then we can run passing plays that doesn't ask the O line to block for 4-6 seconds. This will benefit all the linemen and frustrate the crap out of defenses.

On a side note, for goodness sake I hope they get a killer mindset on offense. If we are rolling, put the game away & get some of your fragile players out of the game (ie, Tyron). How many games have we gotten a good lead then went completely conservative and end up keeping all our starters in the game the whole way (or darn near) because we kept letting the other team hang around with a chance to steal it? Plus it gets lesser players valuable reps.

The play calls/designs have been a big part of holding the ball too long.

The coaches don't coach Dak to get rid of the ball quickly.
In fact, I believe the coaches have at time coached him to wait longer for WRs to get open.
I definitely think in 2017 they coached Dak to wait longer for Dez to get open than Dak otherwise would have waited.
Even if the OC and Dak significantly reduce the time he hold the ball, they are still doomed if Fleming has to start more than half the games.

Garrett always goes conservative with a lead.

That will only change under Garrett if the Jones tell him to change.
It was obvious that Garrett was more aggressive going for it on 4th downs after Jerry publicly said he should have gone for it after a game in 2018.

Idgit · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
It's like people didn't read the comments.

Beasley said he could easily be taken away with bracket coverage, as the scheme dictated. It's absolutely correct, and has 0 today with his route running.

This is stuff that has been known for 5 years.

Taking a slot WR away by bracketing him isn’t necessarily a bad thing in our offense. It just takes Beasley out of the play.

Future · Jun 19, 2019

Idgit said:
Taking a slot WR away by bracketing him isn’t necessarily a bad thing in our offense. It just takes Beasley out of the play.

I know. Beasley getting brackets either leaves the TE open in the seam or a WR with 1-1 outside.

Beasley's point is that he will get more opportunities in Buffalo's offense, and everyone is butthurt by it.

xwalker · Jun 19, 2019

Streetwise said:
From what I've heard, Conner is coming along. But I hope Smith can be productive.

They had him practice at LT in some OTA/mini-camp practices; however, that was because Tyron and La'el were out.

It was reported that the team did tell CW that he'll eventually be tried at OT; however, it's not clear if that means this year.

Idgit · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
I know. Beasley getting brackets either leaves the TE open in the seam or a WR with 1-1 outside.

Beasley's point is that he will get more opportunities in Buffalo's offense, and everyone is butthurt by it.

Yep. I like Bease. He’s got a big mouth, but it’s it anything new. He’ll tell you what he thinks.

I do think it’s interesting the Dez defended him, because Dez is who I thought he was talking about when he said the ‘name’ players get all the looks in Dallas. I assumed it was basically the same thing Butler was saying when he left in FA before he got cut and came back with his tail between his legs.

xwalker · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
It's like people didn't read the comments.

Beasley said he could easily be taken away with bracket coverage, as the scheme dictated. It's absolutely correct, and has 0 today with his route running.

This is stuff that has been known for 5 years.

IMO, that's more about the other receivers on the field than the offensive scheme.

If a defense decides to use bracket coverage on the slot WR, then the other receivers should significantly benefit from the extra defender dedicated to the slot WR.

In 2017 defenses extensively bracketed Beasley because CBs were easily single covering Dez. The decline of Dez was so drastic that not only were defenses bracketing Beasley, they were often using their #1 CB on TWill or Butler instead of Dez.

Future · Jun 19, 2019

xwalker said:
IMO, that's more about the other receivers on the field than the offensive scheme.

If a defense decides to use bracket coverage on the slot WR, then the other receivers should significantly benefit from the extra defender dedicated to the slot WR.

In 2017 defenses extensively bracketed Beasley because CBs were easily single covering Dez. The decline of Dez was so drastic that not only were defenses bracketing Beasley, they were often using their #1 CB on TWill or Butler instead of Dez.

This is nonsense every time you say it.

Dak couldn't throw to a WR without huge separation, Dez' game was exactly the same as always. Maybe a half-step less explosive.

Stash · Jun 19, 2019

SoupcanSam said:
I accept the truth more than not. But I really enjoy shooting the messenger regardless.

You've got a dark side, haven't you?

ItzKelz · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
It's like people didn't read the comments.

Beasley said he could easily be taken away with bracket coverage, as the scheme dictated. It's absolutely correct, and has 0 today with his route running.

This is stuff that has been known for 5 years.

separation

Hook'em#11 · Jun 19, 2019

They're both right. And, all 3 are gone, so , who cares.

SoupcanSam · Jun 19, 2019

stasheroo said:
You've got a dark side, haven't you?

Only when it comes to the talking heads.

Some of the best messengers to capture!

Future · Jun 19, 2019

ItzKelz said:
separation

What about it? Beas gets a ton.

ItzKelz · Jun 19, 2019

Future said:
What about it? Beas gets a ton.

No he does not. We were among the worst in the NFL before Cooper just a year ago and after Cooper we sky rocketed to top 10. This is either true or it is not.

Floatyworm · Jun 19, 2019

McKDaddy said:
People take things too personally. Dez & Beas have a right to criticize the offense. Most of us have been criticizing it for years. The truth shouldn't be scorned even if it isn't what you want to hear.

It's been pretty well documented that coaches have been very dismissive of any suggestions from players during the Garrett regime.

I wish them well.

If the cowboys succeed it will likely be because they change, which will validate their opinion.

I'm pretty sure if I had said this...I would have gotten ZERO likes :popcorn:

Future · Jun 19, 2019

ItzKelz said:
No he does not. We were among the worst in the NFL before Cooper just a year ago and after Cooper we sky rocketed to top 10. This is either true or it is not.

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because Beasley was constantly getting bracketed.

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