Is Zeke a top 3 running back?

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conner01 said:
Most backs only have so many carries in them
Zeke gets so many I expect by 28-29 he’s gonna be done
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In general I'd agree. But I think Elliott is a much more durable RB. Physically. I'm not making any claims, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a long and consistent career.
Elliott isn't "most RBs."
 
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QuincyCarterEra said:
1. You try to disrespect other
2. You get asked a disrespectful question back
3. You play victim and claim it's girly

Very feminine of you to play victim after getting it turned around on you. You have some growing up to do
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What are you talking about? Please point out anywhere in this thread where I disrespected anyone called them out of their names or questioned their intelligence.

I’ll wait.....
 
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Streetwise said:
It proves the point that not all RBs are solely dependant or extremely dependant on everything around them. There are other examples, but that one RB proves your theory inaccurate.
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Have you ever heard the exception that proves the rule?
 
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Hawkeye0202 said:
OK .......I'll concede Barley, maybe, but no way in hell I'm putting Bell or Kamara over Zeke.





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NFL.com ranked running backs across the league and left Ezekiel Elliott out of the top three
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By RJ Ochoa@rjochoa Jun 18, 2019, 4:30pm CDTSHARE
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Ezekiel Elliott is perhaps the best running back in football. This is a common assumption.

Zeke has been in the NFL for three seasons now and has two rushing titles decorating his mantle. He may very well have a third if not for his much-debated suspension in 2017, but still, two out of three is very good. In fact, it’s elite.

To many, Elliott is the gold standard at the running back position. He excels in every way that a running back should, his lone weak spot is contributions via the passing game, and that’s more Scott Linehan’s fault than anything else.
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Zeke has won the rushing title 2 out of his 3 years in the league. He’s not top 3. He’s #1.
 
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Whirlwin said:
I've never seen Barkley go backwards sideways like Berry. I've not seen him get negative yards he's always going forward. You have to watch the competition to comment on the competition
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You must’ve missed both games vs NY. Barkley is good for 1 or 2 big gains per game. Usually late in the game when his team was far behind and the opposition was set up to defend deep passes in a comeback attempt. His biggest runs usually came against nickel and dime defenses in the 4th quarter. Other than that he’s average. I will admit he’s good catching the ball. But I don’t see him as the every down threat you claim he is.
 
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Streetwise said:
In general I'd agree. But I think Elliott is a much more durable RB. Physically. I'm not making any claims, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a long and consistent career.
Elliott isn't "most RBs."
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Who knows
The odds are against him but they were against emmitt too
It takes a long healthy, productive career
Zeke has stayed healthy but the miles are piling up
 
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Future said:
Zeke is the best back in the game and it isn't close.
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Isn’t close? Lol, that’s ludicrous but whatever you think. Personally I think Barkley is better but even if I thought Zeke was 1 and Barkley 2, it’s still close.
 
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adamknite said:
If not for a six game suspension this man is the league leading rusher all three years he's in the league most likely....

I feel as if that should answer the question for itself.
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How so? He also had arguably the best O line in the league in 2016, and a top 5-10 O line the past two years. He also carried the ball more than any other back last year and his rookie year and led the league in fumbles by an extremely wide margin last year. I believe he had 6 fumbles last year compared to Barkley’s 0 and Gurley’s 1. His ypc last year was also less than Barkley who had a much worse O line.

In other words, I would still put him top 2-3 easily but the rushing record is such a misleading, over valued statistic that people like to throw around to try and prove who’s the best RB when there are so many other factors.
 

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You must’ve missed both games vs NY. Barkley is good for 1 or 2 big gains per game. Usually late in the game when his team was far behind and the opposition was set up to defend deep passes in a comeback attempt. His biggest runs usually came against nickel and dime defenses in the 4th quarter. Other than that he’s average. I will admit he’s good catching the ball. But I don’t see him as the every down threat you claim he is.
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I know this isn't going to surprise anyone but Key completely made this up out of his ***.

Barkley's least productive quarter by far is the 4th quarter.
Least attempts, least yards, least yards per attempt, least explosive plays, I think yall get the point.

So yes Whirl was right, you need to watch your opponent in order to speak on them, not just make stuff up as you go.
 
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Zeke almost single handedly won his team a National Title in college, has been the top rusher 2 out of 3 years. Goodell has been the only one to stop Zeke.

Zekes amazing. He’s a grade A knucklehead but an amazing knucklehead.
 
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great running backs move the chains. zeke's tops in the league at this. it's a great feeling to know that on third and one or two, the odds are in your favor to get the first down and continue the drive.
 
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I know this isn't going to surprise anyone but Key completely made this up out of his ***.

Barkley's least productive quarter by far is the 4th quarter.
Least attempts, least yards, least yards per attempt, least explosive plays, I think yall get the point.

So yes Whirl was right, you need to watch your opponent in order to speak on them, not just make stuff up as you go.
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1st & 10 at DAL 38
(14:15 - 1st) S.Barkley right guard pushed ob at DAL 12 for 26 yards (B.Jones).

1st & 10 at DAL 12

(13:28 - 1st) S.Barkley left guard to DAL 11 for 1 yard (D.Lawrence).

2nd & 9 at NYG 25

(0:04 - 1st) S.Barkley up the middle to NYG 25 for no gain (R.Gregory, J.Thomas).

1st & 10 at NYG 25

(8:11 - 2nd) S.Barkley left tackle to NYG 26 for 1 yard (C.Reid, S.Lee).

3rd & 1 at NYG 36

(1:16 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) S.Barkley left guard to NYG 38 for 2 yards (A.Woods, L.Vander Esch).

1st & 10 at DAL 45

(13:10 - 3rd) S.Barkley left tackle to DAL 44 for 1 yard (J.Heath, T.Charlton).

1st & 10 at DAL 28

(11:19 - 3rd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) S.Barkley left guard to DAL 27 for 1 yard (J.Smith, L.Vander Esch).

2nd & 20 at NYG 17

(4:22 - 3rd) (Shotgun) S.Barkley right tackle to DAL 15 for 68 yards (J.Heath).

2nd & 3 at NYG 26
(14:15 - 4th) (Shotgun) S.Barkley left end to NYG 30 for 4 yards (L.Vander Esch).

1st & 10 at NYG 26

(9:05 - 4th) S.Barkley left end to NYG 24 for -2 yards (J.Thomas, R.Gregory).

1st & 10 at NYG 37
(7:07 - 4th) S.Barkley right tackle to NYG 38 for 1 yard (A.Woods).

1st & Goal at DAL 7
(4:50 - 4th) S.Barkley up the middle to DAL 3 for 4 yards (T.Charlton, C.Reid).

2nd & Goal at DAL 3
(4:10 - 4th) S.Barkley right guard to DAL 2 for 1 yard (J.Heath, T.Charlton).

3rd & Goal at DAL 2
(3:21 - 4th) Saquon Barkley 2 Yard Rush A.Rosas extra point is GOOD, Center-Z.DeOssie, Holder-R.Dixon. PENALTY on DAL-C.Awuzie, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced between downs.

2nd & 1 at DAL 9
(2:59 - 4th) S.Barkley right end pushed ob at DAL 7 for 2 yards (J.Smith). PENALTY on NYG-C.Wheeler, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at DAL 9 - No Play.

2nd & 10 at DAL 18
(2:52 - 4th) S.Barkley right end to DAL 18 for no gain (D.Wilson, T.Charlton).

3rd & 10 at DAL 18
(2:45 - 4th) (Shotgun) S.Barkley up the middle to DAL 20 for -2 yards (C.Reid).


These stats are from the Cowboys vs Giants game 12/30/2018. And as we can so clearly see the only big run Barkley had was on 2nd & 20 while the defense was expecting a pass. Other than that he was just as I said.... Very average and mediocre. Thanks for playing. Hahahahaha
 
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1st & 10 at DAL 38
(14:15 - 1st) S.Barkley right guard pushed ob at DAL 12 for 26 yards (B.Jones).

1st & 10 at DAL 12

(13:28 - 1st) S.Barkley left guard to DAL 11 for 1 yard (D.Lawrence).

2nd & 9 at NYG 25

(0:04 - 1st) S.Barkley up the middle to NYG 25 for no gain (R.Gregory, J.Thomas).

1st & 10 at NYG 25

(8:11 - 2nd) S.Barkley left tackle to NYG 26 for 1 yard (C.Reid, S.Lee).

3rd & 1 at NYG 36

(1:16 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) S.Barkley left guard to NYG 38 for 2 yards (A.Woods, L.Vander Esch).

1st & 10 at DAL 45

(13:10 - 3rd) S.Barkley left tackle to DAL 44 for 1 yard (J.Heath, T.Charlton).

1st & 10 at DAL 28

(11:19 - 3rd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) S.Barkley left guard to DAL 27 for 1 yard (J.Smith, L.Vander Esch).

2nd & 20 at NYG 17

(4:22 - 3rd) (Shotgun) S.Barkley right tackle to DAL 15 for 68 yards (J.Heath).

2nd & 3 at NYG 26
(14:15 - 4th) (Shotgun) S.Barkley left end to NYG 30 for 4 yards (L.Vander Esch).

1st & 10 at NYG 26

(9:05 - 4th) S.Barkley left end to NYG 24 for -2 yards (J.Thomas, R.Gregory).

1st & 10 at NYG 37
(7:07 - 4th) S.Barkley right tackle to NYG 38 for 1 yard (A.Woods).

1st & Goal at DAL 7
(4:50 - 4th) S.Barkley up the middle to DAL 3 for 4 yards (T.Charlton, C.Reid).

2nd & Goal at DAL 3
(4:10 - 4th) S.Barkley right guard to DAL 2 for 1 yard (J.Heath, T.Charlton).

3rd & Goal at DAL 2
(3:21 - 4th) Saquon Barkley 2 Yard Rush A.Rosas extra point is GOOD, Center-Z.DeOssie, Holder-R.Dixon. PENALTY on DAL-C.Awuzie, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced between downs.

2nd & 1 at DAL 9
(2:59 - 4th) S.Barkley right end pushed ob at DAL 7 for 2 yards (J.Smith). PENALTY on NYG-C.Wheeler, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at DAL 9 - No Play.

2nd & 10 at DAL 18
(2:52 - 4th) S.Barkley right end to DAL 18 for no gain (D.Wilson, T.Charlton).

3rd & 10 at DAL 18
(2:45 - 4th) (Shotgun) S.Barkley up the middle to DAL 20 for -2 yards (C.Reid).


These stats are from the Cowboys vs Giants game 12/30/2018. And as we can so clearly see the only big run Barkley had was on 2nd & 20 while the defense was expecting a pass. Other than that he was just as I said.... Very average and mediocre. Thanks for playing. Hahahahaha
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But is he not the best back in the league from this board not the gnats board?
 
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