Who is more clutch. Tony or Dak?

Irvin88_4life · Jun 23, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Both teams start 0-0 before every game. We had a chance to win, but instead, had a nothingburger up on the board for a while and had to scratch and claw our way back....but time ran out. That's what happens when you put yourself in a hole. Simple fact is, Dak was not "clutch" in that game.

Romo was clutch against Detroit.

Dak was clutch against Seattle.

Romo was not clutch against Seattle, Vikings, GB, Giants and most cases was the reason we lost.

Irvin88_4life · Jun 23, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
I am mocking YOU for bringing up the "DAK FACED THESE QBS!" This applies to Romo! Oh, I forget Favre...Favre won a Super Bowl as well. QBs don't face QBs, they face defenses.

Wipe the drool from your lip, this is too much for you.

Funny you talking about drool when you get your panties in a wad when people say how Romo fumbled away a game. Perhaps you need to wipe something else off your lips boy.

America's Cowboy · Jun 23, 2019

hairic said:
I have some data on this, regarding playoff performance.

QB vs average defensive performance (defensive home/away split stats or combined if neutral):

1966-1993 have to manually calculate

1994 Green Bay D passer rating playing at opponent: 73.8
Aikman passer rating: 121.1, above (1-0)

1994 San Fransisco D passer rating playing at home: 67.8
Aikman passer rating: 68.1, above (2-0)

1995 Philadelphia D passer rating playing at opponent: 62.4
Aikman passer rating: 101.6, above (3-0)

1995 Green Bay D passer rating playing at opponent: 93.2
Aikman passer rating: 107.5, above (4-0)

1995 Pittsburgh D passer rating playing anywhere: 75.5
Aikman passer rating: 108.8, above (5-0)

1996 Minnesota D passer rating playing at opponent: 83.8
Aikman passer rating: 67.9, below (5-1)

1996 Carolina D passer rating playing at home: 53.6
Aikman passer rating: 37.4, below (5-2)

1998 Arizona D passer rating playing at opponent: 89.9
Aikman passer rating: 37, below (5-3)

1999 Minnesota D passer rating playing at home: 77.3
Aikman passer rating: 70.7, below (5-4)

2003 Carolina D passer rating playing at opponent: 78.6
Carter passer rating: 56.9, below (0-1)

2006 Seattle D passer rating playing at home: 75
Romo passer rating: 89.6, above (1-0)

2007 New York D passer rating playing at opponent: 74.9
Romo rating: 64.7, below (1-1)

2009 Philadelphia D passer rating playing at opponent: 77.8
Romo rating: 104.9, above (2-1)

2009 Minnesota D passer rating playing at home: 84.2
Romo rating: 66.1, below (2-2)

2014 Detroit D passer rating playing at opponent: 85.6
Romo rating: 114.0, above (3-2)

2014 Green Bay D passer rating playing at home: 76.7
Romo rating: 143.6, above (4-2)

2016 Green Bay D passer rating playing at opponent: 107.4
Prescott rating: 103.2, below (0-1)

2018 Seattle D passer rating playing at opponent: 95
Prescott rating: 83.6, below (0-2)

2018 LA D passer rating playing at home: 100.3
Prescott rating: 99.2, below (0-3)

Beuerlein, White, Staubach, etc. no info yet.
Aikman was 5-4 (incomplete) above average passer rating in playoffs.
Carter was 0-1 above average in playoffs.
Romo was 4-2 above average in playoffs.
Prescott is currently 0-3 above average in playoffs.

You've got it wrong in regards to Romo and Prescott. Romo lost at GB in 2014 playoffs, thus his record should be 3-3, not 4-2. Prescott won at home last season during playoffs against Seahawks, thus his record should be 1-2 during the playoffs, not 0-3.

Whoever liked your post liked your wrong disinformation.

DallasDomination · Jun 23, 2019

Dak is a lot more clutch than Romo. Talent wise as a passer Romo was a lot better and in games with not crazy pressure Romo was always a performer. But in big must win games Romo would shrink a lot. It wasn't until later on that Romos confidence took off.

Dak on the hand is less skilled by a wide margin which is why he struggles. Hes just not that good. But his mentality is off the charts. If he improves as a passer he'll be set because confidence is not something he lacks.

Gator88 · Jun 23, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
You've got it wrong in regards to Romo and Prescott. Romo lost at GB in 2014 playoffs, thus his record should be 3-3, not 4-2. Prescott won at home last season during playoffs against Seahawks, thus his record should be 1-2 during the playoffs, not 0-3.

Whoever liked your post liked your wrong disinformation.

Irvin88_4life · Jun 23, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
You've got it wrong in regards to Romo and Prescott. Romo lost at GB in 2014 playoffs, thus his record should be 3-3, not 4-2. Prescott won at home last season during playoffs against Seahawks, thus his record should be 1-2 during the playoffs, not 0-3.

Whoever liked your post liked your wrong disinformation.

Romo is 2-4 in the playoffs with his only wins being against a division opponent and the Detroit Lions.

mattjames2010 · Jun 23, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Dak was clutch against Seattle.

Romo was not clutch against Seattle, Vikings, GB, Giants and most cases was the reason we lost.

We already had the lead against Seattle on our final drive.

Against Seattle - Romo wasn't the QB, he was the holder (that incident changed an NFL rule, by the way)
Vikings - total team failure, one of the best Ds in the league didn't show up, our offensive line showed it's age, all-around bad
Giants - Romo hit Crayton directly in the number which was dropped, threw a beauty to the end zone when Crayton slowed down, and the INT was a desperation throw to our play maker on 4th down.
GB - Hard to say what would have happened after Dez caught it (it's now ruled a catch, remember?)

hairic · Jun 23, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
You've got it wrong in regards to Romo and Prescott. Romo lost at GB in 2014 playoffs, thus his record should be 3-3, not 4-2. Prescott won at home last season during playoffs against Seahawks, thus his record should be 1-2 during the playoffs, not 0-3.

Whoever liked your post liked your wrong disinformation.

Yuck. You are why I do not post. I already constructed the post for readers on a 3rd grade level. I'm not going to do it on a kindergarten level just to satisfy you.

mattjames2010 · Jun 23, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Funny you talking about drool when you get your panties in a wad when people say how Romo fumbled away a game. Perhaps you need to wipe something else off your lips boy.

When have I? It is what it is. As a Cowboys fan, it sucked. As a football fan, it addressed a problem and created a rule change. Bittersweet.

Kevinicus · Jun 23, 2019

Neither...clutch is a myth.

Kevinicus · Jun 23, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Dak was clutch against Seattle.

Romo was not clutch against Seattle, Vikings, GB, Giants and most cases was the reason we lost.

Very dumb post.

Not surprised.

America's Cowboy · Jun 23, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Romo is 2-4 in the playoffs with his only wins being against a division opponent and the Detroit Lions.

You're right bro. I had a feeling I was wrong giving Romo a 3-3 career playoff record. Sounded too generous and too good to be true. It was. Romo only won 2 playoff games. Pretty clutch, huh? lol

America's Cowboy · Jun 23, 2019

hairic said:
Yuck. You are why I do not post. I already constructed the post for readers on a 3rd grade level. I'm not going to do it on a kindergarten level just to satisfy you.

Go play words with those who care. Excuses, excuses...

Irvin88_4life · Jun 23, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
You're right bro. I had a feeling I was wrong giving Romo a 3-3 career playoff record. Sounded too generous and too good to be true. It was. Romo only won 2 playoff games. Pretty clutch, huh? lol

Exactly. Romo has a legend that just grows. One idiot is saying Romo wasn't the QB when he fumbled the ball on the FG against Seattle in the playoffs. It's the same idiot that makes excuses why Romo continually failed in the playoffs but Daks 2 loses are against Dak.

mmohican29 · Jun 23, 2019

Jipper said:
I'm sorry you missed the playoffs win against Seattle...go back and watch then rethink your post

Agreed. Prescott willed the team to victory, and put the game before himself to do so. How can anyone not remember the headstand cartwheel to the 1 and say he isn't clutch.

Romo was a better pure passer but Dak manages the game better and doesn't let the spotlight affect his play. Romo was a black cat QB in his prime, then got it under control late in his career.

His body gave up on him when his priorities changed in the offseason and injuries began to take their toll.

Dak shows nothing but upside and is cast in iron. And he's been very clutch in a smaller sampling.

Ill take Dak when the chips are all in.

Aerolithe_Lion · Jun 23, 2019

Tony was both more clutch and more 'accident waiting to happen' than Dak. He had both sliders set to maximum... at the same time.

MWH1967 · Jun 23, 2019

Kevinicus said:
Neither...clutch is a myth.

Clutch is not a myth kind sir....it's and attitude, study,talent, and confidence. It's the make up of an individual that is rare and real at the same time.

CowboyRoy · Jun 23, 2019

Runwildboys said:
"Clutch" in my opinion, doesn't mean playing poorly until it's almost too late, then turning it on. IMO, it means having an extra gear, when the other team bears down on you. It's "Never say die.", not "Come back from the dead."

I'm only commenting on the example you gave, not saying Dak isn't or won't be clutch. I believe Romo was, but he was often facing extremely tough odds.

LOL.......so turning it on in the end isn't an "extra gear" What is it then?

So when the Cowboys have one drive to win or go home and Dak drives them down the field for the winning score that isn't "Never die"?

What is it then?

You trolls cant even make a credible argument.

CowboyRoy · Jun 23, 2019

Brax said:
lets wait 10 or 12 years, at this point Zeke is the most valuable player on the team. with the players now around Dak there should be no more excuses for him in the up coming season.

And what are the excuses for Zeke? He had 7 TD's last year. I guess he needs all pros around him?

Irvin88_4life · Jun 23, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
What a bunch of baloney. Dak was clutch during that GB playoff loss. The whole first half, he had clutch throws brought back due to bogus penalties called by the crooked officials. Still being down 18 points halfway through the 2nd quarter, Dak brought the team back to tie the game at 31 all with 35 seconds left from going into overtime, yet once again, the officials made sure to step in and help Rodgers during those last 35 seconds, thus helping them win 34-31. Even then as a rookie and in his first playoff game (start), Dak threw for over 300 yards and at least 3 TDs, something Romo never accomplished in the 5 playoff games he started in during his 10 seasons as a starter.

As for the Romo-led Lions playoff victory game in 2014, that was nothing compared to the led and clutch performance Dak displayed this last playoff episode when Dak led the Cowboys to a victory at home against the Russell Wilson led Seahawks.

No way did Romo ever pose a dual threat with his arm and legs the way Dak does. Romo could scramble inside the pocket to create time for his receivers to get open, but never could Romo create game winning clutch plays with his legs beyond the line of scrimmage the way Dak does. No way.

Dak is more clutch. In 2 more years (total first 5 career starting years), Dak will pass in 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives what Romo took to accomplish in 10 starting seasons. You can take that to the bank. It will end this "who is more clutch" debate once and for all.

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