Twitter: Dak: "I want to be one of the best to play this game"

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This is why I'm confident he'll win a min one Super Bowl......his heart and determination reminds me of Emmitt Smith.



I hope he gets there. Just playing a full season like he did the last half of 2018 will take him a long way in that direction. With a No. 1 receiver in place and hopefully better line play, there's no reason for him to not play at least at that level this year.

If he can improve some of the things he struggles with, he could even take it up a notch.

Frankly, I would think everyone here would want Dak to turn into the best QB to ever play for Dallas because that's the best thing that could happen to this team. We've gotten spoiled by some pretty great QBs (Staubach, Aikman and Romo) so if he can stamp his place among that group, I think we'd all be satisfied.
 

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I do not think they're not Cowboys fans but I've yet to see anyone come forward with a better option. Even letting him play out this contract doesn't give the team a better option. I thought initially it did but it really doesn't. Just since we've begun talking about this contract, the market value has increased by 5M per year. Posters were upset at having to pay him 25M and are now hoping they can get him for 30M.

First off, the tank talk is just ridiculous, wouldn't the media love that? The league office would not allow it. The hunt for the next franchise QB has some stiff competition for the blue chippers and the history of this FO with QB's is that luck beats skill.

The fact is there are not enough good QB's to go around and out of the 2018 draft class only one looks like a keeper so far. The goal is not the best QB but the one that can best execute the offense and make the team a true contender. Once a team has their guy like CIN with Dalton or OAK with Carr, they've got to play the hand out. Can't draw to that hand, have to stand pat.

I want to see the cowboys win a SB in the near future

Dak+Garrett = relevance and mediocrity

No SB

When we tie up 30+ mill/year it’ll be even worse
 

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I do not think they're not Cowboys fans but I've yet to see anyone come forward with a better option. Even letting him play out this contract doesn't give the team a better option. I thought initially it did but it really doesn't. Just since we've begun talking about this contract, the market value has increased by 5M per year. Posters were upset at having to pay him 25M and are now hoping they can get him for 30M.

First off, the tank talk is just ridiculous, wouldn't the media love that? The league office would not allow it. The hunt for the next franchise QB has some stiff competition for the blue chippers and the history of this FO with QB's is that luck beats skill.

The fact is there are not enough good QB's to go around and out of the 2018 draft class only one looks like a keeper so far. The goal is not the best QB but the one that can best execute the offense and make the team a true contender. Once a team has their guy like CIN with Dalton or OAK with Carr, they've got to play the hand out. Can't draw to that hand, have to stand pat.

Good post. I think most that are seriously opposed to paying pay Dak $30+ aren't looking at the whole picture. I think in general they are thinking that dollar amount is reserved only for the most elite of QB's, which is certainly not the way the market is playing out, and also that it wouldn't be that difficult to find another QB who is as good or better, which also doesn't fit the facts. That's not to say it would be impossible to find another QB as good or better, but the odds are not favorable. It's highly unlikely the Cowboys will have a high first round pick in 2020 to help the odds, but even if they did, the odds of getting a Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert or RG III or EJ Manuel is greater than getting a Mahomes or Goff.
 

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I hope he gets there. Just playing a full season like he did the last half of 2018 will take him a long way in that direction. With a No. 1 receiver in place and hopefully better line play, there's no reason for him to not play at least at that level this year.

If he can improve some of the things he struggles with, he could even take it up a notch.

Frankly, I would think everyone here would want Dak to turn into the best QB to ever play for Dallas because that's the best thing that could happen to this team. We've gotten spoiled by some pretty great QBs (Staubach, Aikman and Romo) so if he can stamp his place among that group, I think we'd all be satisfied.

Dak taking the next step is pretty much a requirement for the team to take the next step.
 

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I agree. Dak has not hit his ceiling yet. I don't know how much higher it is but he isn't there yet. He has a great attitude and works hard. Cant ask for more. He has a great team around him that makes his job easier. This year will answer some questions, some aren't going to be happy and will have negative things to say about or towards him regardless. Was the same way with our last QB. Undrafted player from a smallish school. Some were just never happy with him..
Some want a pedigree like Staubach and Aikman had because they view the DC QB position as rarified air. A UDFA followed by a 4th rounder isn't the plan.

I look at Dak's story and can't underestimate his drive. What QB gets the QB1 job because of injury in high school, college and the NFL and never gives it back? This guy isn't like many we've seen before and there isn't a template for him.
 

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Good post. I think most that are seriously opposed to paying pay Dak $30+ aren't looking at the whole picture. I think in general they are thinking that dollar amount is reserved only for the most elite of QB's, which is certainly not the way the market is playing out, and also that it wouldn't be that difficult to find another QB who is as good or better, which also doesn't fit the facts. That's not to say it would be impossible to find another QB as good or better, but the odds are not favorable. It's highly unlikely the Cowboys will have a high first round pick in 2020 to help the odds, but even if they did, the odds of getting a Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert or RG III or EJ Manuel is greater than getting a Mahomes or Goff.

My only opposition to it is that if you tie up $30+ million per year then you need to be absolutely sure that he's a franchise QB. The money paid for the position means that you are going to committed to giving him every opportunity to succeed instead of taking that shot at getting a Mahomes.

I prefer the team approach this year, while they still have him under contract, as a make-or-break year. Either he plays like he did as a rookie or the back half of 2018 and shows that he is a franchise QB worthy of the deal or he's hit and miss and you restart the process of looking for a player who can be a franchise QB.

Many teams have wasted years on QBs they believed to be franchise worthy. I don't want our team to do that. I want to see Dak look similar to what he did as a rookie for a full year and then he deserves that contract, even if it will be higher than it would be if we paid him it now.

I know that there are many on here who believes he has already proven himself, but I'm far from satisfied with what I saw from him in 2017 and the first half of 2018. Yes, there are reasons that can be given to justify his play, but the same can be done with a lot of QBs who have failed in this league.
 

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Some want a pedigree like Staubach and Aikman had because they view the DC QB position as rarified air. A UDFA followed by a 4th rounder isn't the plan.

I look at Dak's story and can't underestimate his drive. What QB gets the QB1 job because of injury in high school, college and the NFL and never gives it back? This guy isn't like many we've seen before and there isn't a template for him.
That's where I'm at. I like me an underdog. But if you've followed Prescott throughout his college and NFL career, he's met and passed just about every obstacle presented.
 

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It’s pretty simple, people.

Dak’s record/stats/accomplishments through 3 years are very, very good.

He will soon be making over THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR to play QB for the Dallas Cowboys.

He won at life.

His lowly, stupid, jealous, inferior haters all lost at life.
 

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encouraged? not sure if I put it that...its what he supposed to say. I am sure we can dig up Romo, Aikman, Quincy Carter, and 100s of other players that say same thing. its on us. we want to improve. I want to improve, etc. etc.
like I said, I expect to hear it, so I am not surprised, nor emotional about it like you are...seemingly you are looking for any little thing to feel good. more power to you.
Maybe Aikman did and it would make sense, because he became very successful. But....Find me when Romo ever said he wanted to be among the best to play the game. Or Carter.
 

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for the cowboys to compete for a shot at a championship the qb play and coaching has to be better or they will continue to be mediocre
 

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Some want a pedigree like Staubach and Aikman had because they view the DC QB position as rarified air. A UDFA followed by a 4th rounder isn't the plan.

I look at Dak's story and can't underestimate his drive. What QB gets the QB1 job because of injury in high school, college and the NFL and never gives it back? This guy isn't like many we've seen before and there isn't a template for him.

Drive can only take you so far. I don't care anything about pedigree, only performance. For various reasons, we haven't seen a consistent level of performance from Prescott except in 2016. I want him to succeed and settle the QB spot for years to come. I just think he needs to show that he's even on a QB like Russell Wilson's level. Wilson had three 100-plus QB ratings for a season in his first four years. If Dak has one this year, it will be his second in four years. If he doesn't, it will be his third year in the 90s or lower. I think we should want better than that for 30 million per year.

Some are going to see this as me not liking Dak. That's absolutely incorrect. I loved the Dak Prescott or 2016. I loved the Dak Prescott of the last half of 2018. That's my quarterback. I only question whether that's who he is going to be or the QB of 2017 of the first half of 2018. I don't want to be tied to that QB as my franchise guy.
 

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My only opposition to it is that if you tie up $30+ million per year then you need to be absolutely sure that he's a franchise QB. The money paid for the position means that you are going to committed to giving him every opportunity to succeed instead of taking that shot at getting a Mahomes.

I prefer the team approach this year, while they still have him under contract, as a make-or-break year. Either he plays like he did as a rookie or the back half of 2018 and shows that he is a franchise QB worthy of the deal or he's hit and miss and you restart the process of looking for a player who can be a franchise QB.

Many teams have wasted years on QBs they believed to be franchise worthy. I don't want our team to do that. I want to see Dak look similar to what he did as a rookie for a full year and then he deserves that contract, even if it will be higher than it would be if we paid him it now.

I know that there are many on here who believes he has already proven himself, but I'm far from satisfied with what I saw from him in 2017 and the first half of 2018. Yes, there are reasons that can be given to justify his play, but the same can be done with a lot of QBs who have failed in this league.
I absolutely understand what you are saying. This is a well thought out post, and I have some of the same thoughts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to be 100% certain before a decision has to be made, and either choice holds the potential to handcuff a team for several years if it is the wrong one.

I personally don’t think Dak is completely proven as a franchise QB. I do think he is proven as a quality NFL QB, which a lot of teams don’t have. So the question is whether he still has room to develop further, and/or can the team win without him being elite.
 

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I absolutely understand what you are saying. This is a well thought out post, and I have some of the same thoughts. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to be 100% certain before a decision has to be made, and either choice holds the potential to handcuff a team for several years if it is the wrong one.

I agree with that.

If we wait to pay him next year, he could have a great season that drives up his price and then never repeat it again. However, I do think the evidence would be there that he can put together those kinds of seasons.

If we pay him this year, we save some and it could pay off immediately or even with a mediocre 2019, it could still pay off eventually. Or he may never live up to the deal.

With most players, I probably lean toward not paying them until you have to because so many things can happen. In such a violent game, an injury could end a career in a moment, so why give a player more millions than you have to unless it benefits the team in savings now? That may seem harsh, but it's a practical side of the business.

Then, the other side of it is what I mentioned. There's a lot of guaranteed money that gets put into a player, so you better feel ,as close as you possibly can, guaranteed of success. We've seen in the history of our team some extensions given to players that did not turn out well (and, of course, there are some that did).

I guess it would be fair to say I'm not really an advocate of giving any player a long-term deal until you have to. The only player I would consider doing that with this year is Cooper because of how much he is set to make this year being a factor. We can cut that $14 million down and roll over the money. The rollover from that deal as well as not working out any other extensions this year can be used to help pay deals we have to pay next year.
 

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Some want a pedigree like Staubach and Aikman had because they view the DC QB position as rarified air. A UDFA followed by a 4th rounder isn't the plan.

I look at Dak's story and can't underestimate his drive. What QB gets the QB1 job because of injury in high school, college and the NFL and never gives it back? This guy isn't like many we've seen before and there isn't a template for him.
I didn't follow him in college but I heard some say that he played very well against the big schools. The game wasn't to big for him. Another trait that helps transition to the NFL.. I am ok with signing him or waiting, but waiting will cost us more.
 

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Good to know we have players that don't want to be the worst lol.
 

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Everyone wants to be one of the best to ever play. Me too.

Don't care.
 

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It's because Dak is out there doing it, hard, every day, and it's been showing during OTAs and minicamp. Everyone has been noticing the drastic passing improvement.

And you can find the same thing for a crap ton of other players over the years who went on to do absolutely nothing. Many not even making the team they were on at the time they were getting tons of praise.
 

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For reasons most posters know ......you wouldn't understand

If you as a true Cowboy fan are not encouraged to hear this.....I don't know what to tell ya

Jesus Christ, you'd think it's something every fan would to like hear from every player on the roster.
No different than the ranch. Some people no matter what he does wont give him his due. They see his flaws clearly not so much his strengths. Not unlike the last QB
 

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I didn't follow him in college but I heard some say that he played very well against the big schools. The game wasn't to big for him. Another trait that helps transition to the NFL.. I am ok with signing him or waiting, but waiting will cost us more.
He played against the best D's in the country in Bama, Auburn and LSU and all tried to force him into being a pocket passer and Saban admits to struggling against mobile QB's.

I am not really knowledgeable enough to go against coaching and Dan Mullen, whom I respect as a coach, never thought of replacing him once he took the job. He made Romo hang up his cleats.

But the one thing that really got my attention wasn't about coaching. When it was established that Prescott was the official QB1, Romo's best friend on the team embraced Prescot as the unquestioned leader. There are a lot of rookie QB's that would have wilted under that pressure and that wasn't a universally accepted decision.

Dak doesn't have to win any of us over, that ship has sailed and few will change their opinion of him, if they've dug in too deep. And it's not about winning his coaches over. He's already completed the toughest task any QB can face, he won his teammates over. Some QB's like Cutler, with greater talent, never do that.

We do not look at this like the players do. We look at the position and ask ourselves 'is this a QB'? They ask themselves first 'is this a football player'? That's how the Jim McMahon's, Trent Dilfer's and Brad Jonhson's lead their teams to titles.

I am already so tired of this subject but it is still driving the forum. I have accepted that he will be the highly paid QB1 of the DC and am ready to move onto the real issue, Elliott's contract.
 
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