Is Zeke a top 3 running back?

aria

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Who had more touches and yards?

Actual touches Zeke had ~30 more, actual total yards Barkley had more. Barkley also had a better ypc average with regard to strictly rushing touches and had ZERO fumbles compared to the league leader, Zeke, who had SIX.
 

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Then you have absolutely no clue what an average back is LMAO

"Any starting RB gets 109 yards on 17 carries"

I...just...wow
Yea. It’s average. Out of 17 carries only 2 were for more than 5 yards. That’s VERY AVERAGE. He had 109 yards with 94 coming off 2 carries. 15 yards on the other 15 carries. What don’t you understand about that? His 68 yard run came when the defense was playing pass on 2nd & 20. I’ll admit. It was a great call by the coach. But nothing spectacular by an NFL running back. They all can do that.
 

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Yea. It’s average. Out of 17 carries only 2 were for more than 5 yards. That’s VERY AVERAGE. He had 109 yards with 94 coming off 2 carries. 15 yards on the other 15 carries. What don’t you understand about that? His 68 yard run came when the defense was playing pass on 2nd & 20. I’ll admit. It was a great call by the coach. But nothing spectacular by an NFL running back. They all can do that.

What dont you understand about that not being average?

Any running back can do that huh? Zeke hasnt had a single 68 yard run in his career, having played against prevent defense many times. Are you saying Zeke isn't even average?

Edit: just watched his 68 yarder against us. No surprise you have abolsutely no clue what the **** you're talking about. We weern't in prevent defense at all. We were in nickel with 4 down lineman with LVE and Jaylon covering the middle. Barkley broke through three arm tackles and outran the defenders the 15 yard line.

When will you ever not just make stuff up? I'm embarrassed for you
 

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What dont you understand about that not being average?

Any running back can do that huh? Zeke hasnt had a single 68 yard run in his career, having played against prevent defense many times. Are you saying Zeke isn't even average?

Edit: just watched his 68 yarder against us. No surprise you have abolsutely no clue what the **** you're talking about. We weern't in prevent defense at all. We were in nickel with 4 down lineman with LVE and Jaylon covering the middle. Barkley broke through three arm tackles and outran the defenders the 15 yard line.

When will you ever not just make stuff up? I'm embarrassed for you
Where did you see me post anything about a prevent defense? I said we were fooled by the run call because we were expecting a pass and that’s exactly what happened. It’s you who is making stuff up. Not me. I’ve played and coached football. I know what I see. You y’all like Barkley just beat us up with his savage runs all game. Out of 17 carries, how many were for more than 4 yards?
And yes!!! Any NFL RB can have a 68 and a 26 yard run. Hell... There’s even quarterbacks who do that. It’s nothing special.
 

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These rankings mean nothing. I rather have a top 3 offense, top 3 D. Time to start winning in the postseason. I don't give a ratsazz where Zeke ranks in all of that. Time to take care of business as a team.
 

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Actual touches Zeke had ~30 more, actual total yards Barkley had more. Barkley also had a better ypc average with regard to strictly rushing touches and had ZERO fumbles compared to the league leader, Zeke, who had SIX.
Barkley might have more raw ability. It would be interesting to see what he could do behind this OL.

But some of the greatest RB in NFL history like OJ and Sanders ran behind crap OL most of their careers.
 

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Barkley might have more raw ability. It would be interesting to see what he could do behind this OL.

But some of the greatest RB in NFL history like OJ and Sanders ran behind crap OL most of their careers.
I realize it’s a long ways to go but if Barkley keeps doing what he’s been doing then he will be in the same category as OJ and Sanders.
 

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Zeke has outgained every one since he was drafted he is number i
So based on your comment, total yards is what determines the best running back? BTW, he wasn’t drafted number one.
 

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Actual touches Zeke had ~30 more, actual total yards Barkley had more. Barkley also had a better ypc average with regard to strictly rushing touches and had ZERO fumbles compared to the league leader, Zeke, who had SIX.
I have to give it to you Aria. I didn't realize Barkley had no fumbles and didn't realize that Zeke had six. That is an impressive stat. I commented in another thread about Zeke's durability but Barkley certainly is impressive. I knew both coming in would be amongst the top backs. I'm hoping that if Zeke gets to play all year that he will score more touchdowns. Hoping for 12+ at least. We shall see. I love watching both run even if Barkley plays for the enemy.
 

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I have to give it to you Aria. I didn't realize Barkley had no fumbles and didn't realize that Zeke had six. That is an impressive stat. I commented in another thread about Zeke's durability but Barkley certainly is impressive. I knew both coming in would be amongst the top backs. I'm hoping that if Zeke gets to play all year that he will score more touchdowns. Hoping for 12+ at least. We shall see. I love watching both run even if Barkley plays for the enemy.
I get so sick of people calling me a troll or anti Cowboy because I don’t like Zeke. I’ve stated several times I don’t like him as a person but that doesn’t mean I don’t cheer for him on game day. I’ve also said I think he his the 2nd or 3rd best RB in the league but some people think because I think Barkley is slightly better then I’m not a Cowboys fan. It gets old.

Everyone has their own opinions but some of these guys saying Barkley isn’t nearly as good as Zeke is a joke. I love watching both of them, they’re both amazing, but there’s no denying that Barkley was playing behind a much, much worse O line which is very significant.
 

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I have to give it to you Aria. I didn't realize Barkley had no fumbles and didn't realize that Zeke had six. That is an impressive stat. I commented in another thread about Zeke's durability but Barkley certainly is impressive. I knew both coming in would be amongst the top backs. I'm hoping that if Zeke gets to play all year that he will score more touchdowns. Hoping for 12+ at least. We shall see. I love watching both run even if Barkley plays for the enemy.
It's nice to see someone else give credit where it is due. Aria brings facts and stats to a debate which is a freaking breath of fresh air.
Aria isnt getting blinded by homerism and knows he's going to catch heat for his stance. But he and crazed liotta still stand strong. Good for yall.
 

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I get so sick of people calling me a troll or anti Cowboy because I don’t like Zeke. I’ve stated several times I don’t like him as a person but that doesn’t mean I don’t cheer for him on game day. I’ve also said I think he his the 2nd or 3rd best RB in the league but some people think because I think Barkley is slightly better then I’m not a Cowboys fan. It gets old.

Everyone has their own opinions but some of these guys saying Barkley isn’t nearly as good as Zeke is a joke. I love watching both of them, they’re both amazing, but there’s no denying that Barkley was playing behind a much, much worse O line which is very significant.
I just hope with Fredbeard returning this year we have a much better line. Zeke needs it and Dak needs it. Isn't it amazing, a rational discussion about a player? They're both amazing players. Let's hope ours gets his crap together.
 

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It's nice to see someone else give credit where it is due. Aria brings facts and stats to a debate which is a freaking breath of fresh air.
Aria isnt getting blinded by homerism and knows he's going to catch heat for his stance. But he and crazed liotta still stand strong. Good for yall.
Love it brotha. We're all Cowboy fans and I appreciate the comment.
 

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Ok, fine, take that out of the equation. Why is it Barkley had more yards and overall touches than Zeke his rookie year but he isn’t considered durable compared to Zeke?

I swear, some of the stuff that you guys come up with is so far out there it’s ridiculous. Just throw accusatiins out there with zero facts to back it up and see if they stick.
Not me.

Barkley was durable last year. The only reason I myself would say EZ might be more durable is because w/ his build, he might be the most durable RB in the NFL.

Hey, you just thought that how a guy gets up after being tackled has something to do w/ durability!!!!!!
 

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Zeke is a really good RB, but its comical when the rushing title is brought up to try and compare how good he is. When he has 40-90 touches more then the next guys behind him .... you would hope he has more yards. Even the year when he missed 6 games he has top 10 in touches. The stats that matter are YPC and yards after contact. Then factor in blocking skills as its important to the team. But stats are always screwed as its about the team not the single person , eyeball test is way to go.

Absurd take "stats that matter". You mean to you- a fan of a team with a far inferior player at the position.

The fact that Zeke produces all the while being keyed on for 4 qtrs and piles up yardage makes him the de-facto best RB in the NFL.

The eyeball test you use? He's hurtling Eagles DB's and snapping their necks when they try and cheap shot him. He's compiling Rushing titles. He's durable back that can handle a bell cow load and then some.

He is the hammer and the nail all in one sir. If he ever fully commits to overcoming his immaturity, there is no better non-QB position player in the NFL. Period.
 

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I realize it’s a long ways to go but if Barkley keeps doing what he’s been doing then he will be in the same category as OJ and Sanders.
Possibly, but EZ is even closer to that conversation!!!!
 

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I get so sick of people calling me a troll or anti Cowboy because I don’t like Zeke. I’ve stated several times I don’t like him as a person but that doesn’t mean I don’t cheer for him on game day. I’ve also said I think he his the 2nd or 3rd best RB in the league but some people think because I think Barkley is slightly better then I’m not a Cowboys fan. It gets old.

Everyone has their own opinions but some of these guys saying Barkley isn’t nearly as good as Zeke is a joke. I love watching both of them, they’re both amazing, but there’s no denying that Barkley was playing behind a much, much worse O line which is very significant.
While I don't think Barkley has played long enough yet to put him that high, I can agree w/ what you're saying.

Basically, Barkely needs to learn to hit the hole faster. He tends to wait too long trying to hit a HR. I thought I saw him doing better in this respect last season.
 
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