This team can win without Zeke

J12B said:

Oline is stacked with talent

Amari Cooper is a threat defenses will need to double

Dak can do enough to get a W

New offensive scheme and creativity that can only help the offense

Defense is young and talented

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

The success of the team shouldn't revolve around the availability of a starting running back.

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This team hasn’t won with Zeke, how do we know if they could win without him?

J12B said:

Oline is stacked with talent

Amari Cooper is a threat defenses will need to double

Dak can do enough to get a W

New offensive scheme and creativity that can only help the offense

Defense is young and talented

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

The success of the team shouldn't revolve around the availability of a starting running back.

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Oh, I think the team can win games without Zeke, but I also believe they can't win as many games without Zeke.

big dog cowboy said:

Short term - probably

Long term - unlikely

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Short-term we won't have to. He's here for 2 years.

Long-term Zeke won't even be Zeke. So we'll have to.

The fundamental question is will we pay him big dollars (more big dollars) along the way?

We will find out in about 3 years.

CATCH17 said:

Consider the coach.

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Leave Garrett alone!!!!! You'll wake up Rockport! Lol!

Sure, we can win 5 games.

J12B said:

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

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This team can lose to the Giants or Commanders with Elliott, and it has nothing to do with having a good team, or depth.

NFC East games are almost always tough, hard-fought affairs, and the winner often isn’t the team that is favored to win. Dallas is always the Commanders super bowl and the Giants always get up to play the Cowboys as well.

Washington is going to have a very good defense and they’ll play hard in the early part of the season before they lose hope. NY has some talent on offense that isn’t easy to stop and they were playing well the last half of 2018.

Anyone who is looking at the first two games this season as gimmie’s isn’t taking the history of the NFC East into consideration. These games won’t be easy by any stretch of the imagination. They’ll be battles.

I do think Dallas is better than both of those teams, and will end up with the better record... but that doesn’t mean the Cowboys are assured to walk out the as winners of the first two weeks. And it doesn’t mean the season is doomed if they come away 1-1 going into week 3.

Some of you folks think Zeke is just a run of the mill RB.
Zeke is elite and elite RBs are valued.
In case you all forgot this is a run first offense.

OmerV said:

Oh, I think the team can win games without Zeke, but I also believe they can't win as many games without Zeke.

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What about without Zeke and 50MM to spend?

If I would start a thread that this team can win without Dak, someone would say I have an agenda, I'm sure.

Toruk_Makto said:

What about without Zeke and 50MM to spend?

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If they can't win as many games without Zeke that applies whether he has $5MM or $50MM in his pocket. If you are asking if we should pay Zeke $50MM, that's a different question. I personally wouldn't be opposed to giving it a year before deciding to see how if he can get his head on a little straighter.

J12B said:

Oline is stacked with talent

Amari Cooper is a threat defenses will need to double

Dak can do enough to get a W

New offensive scheme and creativity that can only help the offense

Defense is young and talented

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

The success of the team shouldn't revolve around the availability of a starting running back.

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It was after the 1992 Super Bowl Season that Jerry Jones and Troy Aikman was asked can they win without Emmitt Smith....

0-2 to start the 1993 season got Emmitt paid as the top RB in the NFL. He rewarded the Cowboys with another rushing title, MVP, an another Super Bowl Championship which he was MVP of the game.

No! you can not win without Zeke Elliott.

Toruk_Makto said:

It's not routine. That's kind of the point. And yes running through an arm tackle counts.

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Yeah I understand the point and disagree. I respect the data, but it’s clearly a semantics issue

Toruk_Makto said:

Because we'll be able to run effectively without Zeke like we've done every year for the last half decade.

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Other than Murray we haven't. I'm not just talking about yards. The RB has got to be able to move the chains. He needs to be able to take over the game if need be. I don't think we have another RB on the roster that can do that.

J12B said:

Oline is stacked with talent

Amari Cooper is a threat defenses will need to double

Dak can do enough to get a W

New offensive scheme and creativity that can only help the offense

Defense is young and talented

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

The success of the team shouldn't revolve around the availability of a starting running back.

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we can win without Dak then same reason of we are so stacked and Dak can just do ENOUGH then get vet bup pay zeke say goodbye to dak..shrug

J12B said:

Oline is stacked with talent

Amari Cooper is a threat defenses will need to double

Dak can do enough to get a W

New offensive scheme and creativity that can only help the offense

Defense is young and talented

If you believe Dallas would lose to the Giants and Commanders if Zeke is unavailable....then you have no faith in this team. You're also saying the front office hasn't built a good team with depth.

The success of the team shouldn't revolve around the availability of a starting running back.

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It's these kinds of posts that bring me back here. Not that they are within a solar system of having anything more than some pie-eyed opinion, not based on what has been seen on the field.

But true comedy is rare and good comedy is worth searching for.

Something about this anchor post makes me wonder if there is a cheerleader outfit involved when it was bring created

Toruk_Makto said:

What about without Zeke and 50MM to spend?

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This is your usual commentary on all things running back.

Fair enough. You have your position and are loyal to it.

But what i would like for you to comment on is this.

Name a time in the last twenty years this team had cap space and used it to get to the NFC Championship game. Now that question has an answer we both know. But it is a fair assessment of the FO and how money doesn't matter. It's the eye for talent and the leadership which overcomes those early playoff games or late fourth quarters in a championship game and 80 yards with little time and few time outs.

Meaning the championship drives.

My point being, you, like so many, keep talking about the cap as if this is what prevents this team from winning it all. But there is no evidence this is based in any facts relating to THIS franchise.

So when I see you so eloquently defend this position, I have to ask if you understand that your reality has never happened with this FO and this coaching staff.

The addition of Moore will not be the lynch pin for a championship.

It takes players. And championships are built around play makers. I think we saw enough from Felix Jones and Marion Barber to know the difference in a guy like Zeke and two really good, but not great running that fit your pay scale running backs.

I disagree with you. But do enjoy your posts. Enjoy the 4th.

coult44 said:

This team hasn’t won with Zeke, how do we know if they could win without him?

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So this team has won the division 2 of the last 3 years with Zeke, and did not win it without him in 2017, but was close if not for being screwed out of 6 games.
Ok, then.

The 2017 was 5-4 with Zeke and 3-3 without Zeke. I think the 2019 team is better so I see no reason we couldn't win without Zeke. This team is more reliant on the OL and them staying healthy than they are Zeke.

This team can win without Zeke?
Sure.
Can they win enough without him to win a Championship?
Nope.
Like it or not, we need him if we want to get back to the top.