News: PFT: Randy Gregory hopes to be reinstated by training camp

glimmerman · Jul 6, 2019

Diehardblues said:
They should be subject to whatever the state law is. If Gregory was busted in Texas 3 or 4 times he’d be in prison.

If they’re going to lift pot as a banned substance then they should stop playing football in states where it’s illegal and perhaps stop televising in those states as well. This is a National issue not just the NFL.

How crazy is it in this country that we have states which are incarcerating citizens and other states it’s legal. Can you imagine having states where we incarcerated people for drinking alcohol.

Why does anyone who wants to smoke pot even live in those states where it’s illegal ? They should all move. Why risk going to jail ?

Maybe the loss of population and tax dollars would get their attention.

Surprised that the federal government has seen how much tax dollars they have already collected from states like Colorado and haven't went ahead and legalized it.

Diehardblues · Jul 6, 2019

glimmerman said:
Surprised that the federal government has seen how much tax dollars they have already collected from states like Colorado and haven't went ahead and legalized it.

It’s because two major lobbyist groups are battling it on the national scene. The alcohol and pharmaceutical industries. The last two legal substances.

Cowfan75 · Jul 6, 2019

Diehardblues said:
They should be subject to whatever the state law is. If Gregory was busted in Texas 3 or 4 times he’d be in prison.

If they’re going to lift pot as a banned substance then they should stop playing football in states where it’s illegal and perhaps stop televising in those states as well.

Can you imagine having states where we incarcerated people for possession of alcohol.

Why does anyone who wants to smoke pot even live in those states where it’s illegal ? They should all move. Why risk going to jail ?

Yup. For some reason, I moved back to Texas from Washington. It's even more draconian once you've lived in a state where you can walk in and buy it like you're buying a loaf of bread. In another state, go to jail/prison. It's absolutely idiotic.

Diehardblues · Jul 6, 2019

Cowfan75 said:
Yup. For some reason, I moved back to Texas from Washington. It's even more draconian once you've lived in a state where you can walk in and buy it like you're buying a loaf of bread. In another state, go to jail/prison. It's absolutely idiotic.

It could ruin your life for possession in this state and others. Why would anyone risk moving there if they smoke?

Aerolithe_Lion · Jul 7, 2019

buybuydandavis said:
Try suspension without pay at Burger King for someone addicted to pot with an established mental illness that doesn't affect their work, and see how that flies with the ADA.

If it’s their 4th suspension because they refused to follow guidelines set in place due to previous attempts to ‘help’ them, then yes you have ground for suspension without pay. No employer is required by law to run a halfway house.

Edit: I just read the ADA. That’s entirely about discrimination toward people with disabilities, mental or physical. That is not what’s happening here at all. If a disability directly interferes with your ability to complete a task required by the job, then that is not discrimination. If you’re missing an arm, you are no longer fit to be a logger. If you cannot stop smoking weed because of your mental issue, you are directly violating the league policy that no one is allowed to smoke weed under any condition. You’re not being discriminated against, you’re being treated as equal to someone who does not have a condition. That’s what the ADA wants.

NFL has indefinitely suspended people multiple times and no one has even attempted to call them out on it, because it is perfectly legal.

Cowfan75 · Jul 7, 2019

Diehardblues said:
It could ruin your life for possession in this state and others. Why would anyone risk moving there if they smoke?

Personally, I just quit for the time being and hope my intuition on it going legal across the country in 2020 proves true.

PA Cowboy Fan · Jul 7, 2019

Don't really care if Gregory plays or not. I just find it funny that fans are getting bashed because they have expectations that a Dallas Cowboy football player that is on the roster should be expected to play. This is an NFL team. I hope Gregory gets his life together but after 4 suspensions we're supposed to put up with this indefinitely. And before someone brings up Zeke, if he was faced with his 4th or 5th suspension I'd feel the same way. Sooner or later enough is enough.

Sydla · Jul 7, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
Don't really care if Gregory plays or not. I just find it funny that fans are getting bashed because they have expectations that a Dallas Cowboy football player that is on the roster should be expected to play. This is an NFL team. I hope Gregory gets his life together but after 4 suspensions we're supposed to put up with this indefinitely. And before someone brings up Zeke, if he was faced with his 4th or 5th suspension I'd feel the same way. Sooner or later enough is enough.

The issue here is that he is just trying to get reinstated and people are seemingly bothered by the fact he wants to come back.

That's peculiar to me. Again, there's no downside here. At this point, he'd just likely be a backup anyway. If he gets reinstated and then gets suspended again, so what? The Cowboys acquired Quinn for this very reason most likely............... insurance for Gregory.

ghst187 · Jul 7, 2019

#sooverRG

Bullflop · Jul 7, 2019

I expect I'll get over any mixed feelings about Randy this year if the pass rush comes on as good as I think it will. :thumbup:

buybuydandavis · Jul 7, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
If it’s their 4th suspension because they refused to follow guidelines set in place due to previous attempts to ‘help’ them, then yes you have ground for suspension without pay. No employer is required by law to run a halfway house.

Edit: I just read the ADA. That’s entirely about discrimination toward people with disabilities, mental or physical. That is not what’s happening here at all. If a disability directly interferes with your ability to complete a task required by the job, then that is not discrimination. If you’re missing an arm, you are no longer fit to be a logger. If you cannot stop smoking weed because of your mental issue, you are directly violating the league policy that no one is allowed to smoke weed under any condition. You’re not being discriminated against, you’re being treated as equal to someone who does not have a condition. That’s what the ADA wants.

NFL has indefinitely suspended people multiple times and no one has even attempted to call them out on it, because it is perfectly legal.

Smoking weed doesn't prevent Randy from tackling people. Suspensions do that.

Diehardblues · Jul 7, 2019

Sydla said:
The issue here is that he is just trying to get reinstated and people are seemingly bothered by the fact he wants to come back.

That's peculiar to me. Again, there's no downside here. At this point, he'd just likely be a backup anyway. If he gets reinstated and then gets suspended again, so what? The Cowboys acquired Quinn for this very reason most likely............... insurance for Gregory.

No issue in him attempting to reinstate himself. The issue is his poor choices placing himself in this position and the potential effects on the defense and team.

Gregory last year finally performing an entire season as an emerging force on the other side of Lawrence helping solidify a pass rush which supported a defense which became a top 10 caliber leading a 22nd ranked offense to the playoffs.

He would have been more than a backup most likely. Losing Irving, Gregory and with Lawrence returning from surgery the DL and our pass rush are a question mark beginning this season and the effects that could have on our defense.

Quinn was acquired to shore that up along with our 2nd round pick but it’s unknown at this time if Quinn will replace Gregory’s production and impact last year.

Possibly there won’t be any let down with the changes on DL but I certainly wouldn’t assume until we see the results come in. With the moves we made in off season certainly appears it’s a concern.

Diehardblues · Jul 7, 2019

buybuydandavis said:
Smoking weed doesn't prevent Randy from tackling people. Suspensions do that.

If you’re being suspended for smoking weed then it is preventing him from tackling people . He knows the rules and has basically chosen to smoke over playing.

Diehardblues · Jul 7, 2019

Bullflop said:
I expect I'll get over any mixed feelings about Randy this year if the pass rush comes on as good as I think it will.

And that’s it.

If our defense isn’t as much of a force as a result and the potential impacts that could have not only on defense but the entire team along with losing Irving and Lawrence’s injury.. Of course it could be a big deal. Especially after we finally saw what his talent could bring to our defense.

Diehardblues · Jul 7, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
If it’s their 4th suspension because they refused to follow guidelines set in place due to previous attempts to ‘help’ them, then yes you have ground for suspension without pay. No employer is required by law to run a halfway house.

Edit: I just read the ADA. That’s entirely about discrimination toward people with disabilities, mental or physical. That is not what’s happening here at all. If a disability directly interferes with your ability to complete a task required by the job, then that is not discrimination. If you’re missing an arm, you are no longer fit to be a logger. If you cannot stop smoking weed because of your mental issue, you are directly violating the league policy that no one is allowed to smoke weed under any condition. You’re not being discriminated against, you’re being treated as equal to someone who does not have a condition. That’s what the ADA wants.

NFL has indefinitely suspended people multiple times and no one has even attempted to call them out on it, because it is perfectly legal.

Correct because it’s a Company policy the players union has agreed to which doesn’t apply to the laws of the land and or don’t fall under the American Disability Act(ADA) protection. There are other substances which are prohibited by the league which aren’t illegal.

CowboysExchange · Jul 7, 2019

Pot is legal in our Neighboring Country CANADA now and was like a 10 billion dollar industry in the United States last year Alone. Lol.

As soon as the NFL and the Alcohol producers and Distributors Get their hooks set in the pot industry money the US LAWS will change. The NFL RULES will change prior to that and I BELIEVE that time is near.

Its medically necessary/legal and allowed in 30 US States, legal for recreation in 10+ states and our Sister Country Canada its legal at like age 19 and Mexico is south of us. Lol. Who wants to come to America if they are gonna be strip searched for weed and who is gonna pay for all that police'ing?

Its costing us Billions to Police Weed in non legal states and at the Border and America is Sandwiched in between 2 countries where Pot is Legal. Lol.

Why are we still police'ing harmless weed when its probably 99% less harmful than legal alcohol and pills because of addiction and overmedicating anyways. Lol. Ask a Doctor to write a prescription for that?

Its gonna change soon because it will save lives AND costs TRILLIONS less to police the overmedicators, overdosers, and weed users while we are still propping up this illegal prohibition system.

Captain-Crash · Jul 7, 2019

TWOK11 said:
All over this league we have horrible human beings playing the game and you’re upset about a guy who smokes pot?

who's upset? You must have me confused with someone who gives a rats butt about this idiot.
Just another weak minded fool who doesn't have his priorities in order.

TheSkaven · Jul 7, 2019

Icing on the cake. Quinn is actually an improvement over Gregory. He’s a better player, and he’ll be close to elite now that he’s playing in the other since of Tank.

Quinn led the NFL last year among defensive ends who beat their man when left one on one. He’s going to be left one on one a lot this year.

Now add Gregory as a sub on passing downs, Trysten Hill creating havoc in the middle, and the best linebacking core in the league, and you’ve got the proverbial icing on the cake.

CowboysExchange · Jul 7, 2019

The problem is the addictive alcohol, and legal/illegal drugs, and peds.

Weed is Medically Necessary in 30 + states and these VIOLENT athletes who play a contact sport WHO ARE more vulnerable and they only have options to use Addictive Liquor and pills to cope w the pressure and pain?

If Im former NFL Players who have had to seek treatment for Alcohol and pills, current NFL players who cant handle the alcohol and pills, players that use weed medically, Madd, etc etc Im standing up against the overmedicating and overdosing and the rediculous policeing of the harmless non addictive weed.

Im doing it before one less Addict overmedicates or overdoses or causes harm to my children, brothers and sisters.

The 70% of the NFL Athletes need to all get a Random and shut this League down for a season if it saves one Life. Weed is Rampant and accepted and nobody cares esp the owners

Im just talking so I dont get fined. Lets not have an NFL so the do gooders can sell you pills and alcohol because youre gonna need something. to cope if you play in the NFL. Let Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers get suspended for weed and see where the NFL Stance is. There is a more positive gain for the NFL to decriminalize weed then pay for a fight against the players and supporters

treykin32 · Jul 7, 2019

Point-of-the-Star said:
Eggzactly. That 2014 D was a bunch of JAG's for the most part. The team strengths were Romo, Murray , and the OL.

I think you forgot the wr that had 88 catches, 1320 yards, & 16 tds...dare I say his name???? Dez Bryant

See any stars here?

DE Jeremy Mincey 31 7 16 New England Patriots / 6th / 191st pick / 2006
DE George Selvie 27 4 13 St. Louis Rams / 7th / 226th pick / 2010
DT Tyrone Crawford 25 2 15 Dallas Cowboys / 3rd / 81st pick / 2012
DT Nick Hayden 28 6 16 Carolina Panthers / 6th / 181st pick / 2008
MLB Rolando McClain 25 4 12 1.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Oakland Raiders / 1st / 8th pick / 2010
LB Bruce Carter 26 3 8 Dallas Cowboys / 2nd / 40th pick / 2011
LB Anthony Hitchens 22 Rook 11 Dallas Cowboys / 4th / 119th pick / 2014
LCB Brandon Carr 28 6 16 1.0 sacks, 0 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered Kansas City Chiefs / 5th / 140th pick / 2008
RCB Orlando Scandrick 27 6 14 1.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, 0 fumbles recovered Dallas Cowboys / 5th / 143rd pick / 2008
SS Barry Church 26 4 16 0.0 sacks, 2 interceptions, 1 fumble recovered
FS J.J. Wilcox 23 1 16 0.0 sacks, 3 int

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