The effect of the new PI review

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Since this rule is new this year, it's too early to call how this will effect the game but I am wondering how this will effect the play calling, particularly the team that wants to be balanced.

It remains to be seen if this will be red flagged a lot more but on those deep balls, the risk v reward is pretty good if the offense gets the call.

The other part of that is what effect will this have on how the DB's play these plays, will this alter the style of play of aggressive DB's to the point the OC's start calling more deep balls?

The NFL loves the big play and I think they were ecstatic that the missed call in NO happened enabling them to do what they wanted to do anyway, open the game and scoring up even more. Think the ratings of that KC-LAR game didn't get a lot of mileage at the owners' meeting? The only holdup was the time to play the games and more stops but integrity comes first, by golly.

I look at this offense, especially with these WR's, and most can go deep but the question is can the OL give the QB time to complete those plays? I do think that Young Kellen will favor those plays because he liked them as a QB.

Good thing for us on offense or bad thing for us on defense?
 

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Remains to be seen how the new rules will be called and interpreted.

My guess, it’ll be some of both.
 

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I predict that WR will run a 60 yard route the QB will intentionally under throw the ball so the wr must come back for the ball. The WR will intentionally make contact with the defender. If a flag isn't thrown for PI just throw a challenge flag and that contact will be penalized. The NFL 100% screwed the pooch with this rule. A free 50 yard penalty. So dumb
 

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There's evidently a reason why Sanjay Lal has been drilling Dak and his receivers so hard in practicing the long ball in 2019. It will only work to our advantage if our offense is able to score more than our defense is able to contain the opposition. It might provide an intriguing twist this year. ;)
 
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Since this rule is new this year, it's too early to call how this will effect the game but I am wondering how this will effect the play calling, particularly the team that wants to be balanced.

It remains to be seen if this will be red flagged a lot more but on those deep balls, the risk v reward is pretty good if the offense gets the call.

The other part of that is what effect will this have on how the DB's play these plays, will this alter the style of play of aggressive DB's to the point the OC's start calling more deep balls?

The NFL loves the big play and I think they were ecstatic that the missed call in NO happened enabling them to do what they wanted to do anyway, open the game and scoring up even more. Think the ratings of that KC-LAR game didn't get a lot of mileage at the owners' meeting? The only holdup was the time to play the games and more stops but integrity comes first, by golly.

I look at this offense, especially with these WR's, and most can go deep but the question is can the OL give the QB time to complete those plays? I do think that Young Kellen will favor those plays because he liked them as a QB.

Good thing for us on offense or bad thing for us on defense?
What we saw in the NBA was that the officials have to stop making “judge jury executioner” calls and play it by the rule book. An NBA example is, two guys are going for the ball out of bounds. Guy A has five fouls and lightly fouls Guy B, causing the ball to go off Guy B (close play but Ref can clearly see it). Official sees it all, wants to keep the game moving... so instead of giving Guy A a ticky-tack foul and fouling him out he just says no foul, out of bounds on Guy A and the scales of justice are even.
Except now in the final two minutes they can go look at these and even though they can see that Guy A clearly committed a foul, they can only correct the out of bounds part.
I’m sure NFL refs manage the game in a similar fashion, they may see the receiver push off closer to the line and the DB does a slight grab at the end and decides that neither of them deserves a bail out. That’s going to look a lot worse now.
 

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What we saw in the NBA was that the officials have to stop making “judge jury executioner” calls and play it by the rule book. An NBA example is, two guys are going for the ball out of bounds. Guy A has five fouls and lightly fouls Guy B, causing the ball to go off Guy B (close play but Ref can clearly see it). Official sees it all, wants to keep the game moving... so instead of giving Guy A a ticky-tack foul and fouling him out he just says no foul, out of bounds on Guy A and the scales of justice are even.
Except now in the final two minutes they can go look at these and even though they can see that Guy A clearly committed a foul, they can only correct the out of bounds part.
I’m sure NFL refs manage the game in a similar fashion, they may see the receiver push off closer to the line and the DB does a slight grab at the end and decides that neither of them deserves a bail out. That’s going to look a lot worse now.
My thoughts exactly. Over correction to a widely-viewed missed call.
 

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The nfccg was the only time I can remember where it was so bad that we needed a review.

So hopefully it’s a rule we never use because we’ll never have to. But we know that the second it’s implemented, people will be begging for it on every play. Fans, announcers, even the players on the field.
 

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The nfccg was the only time I can remember where it was so bad that we needed a review.

So hopefully it’s a rule we never use because we’ll never have to. But we know that the second it’s implemented, people will be begging for it on every play. Fans, announcers, even the players on the field.
That's a given, they do that now after every play. They act like a bunch of spoiled children.

I wish they go back to everything's fair, knives, guns, machetes, swords, nunchucks and scythes, as long as the ball isn't in the air. Minute it leaves the chunker's hand, no touchy touch the receiver.

That would actually favor these monster WR's because when the bump n run was in, most of the WR's were smaller.
 

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The rules for pass interference should have never been changed. If the Rams/Saints play doesn't happen last season, then there would be no rule change. One really egregious missed call after 32 years of using instant replay and they feel they have to change the rules. That play was the exception that proves the rule that nothing should have been changed. The problem now is going to be the fan bases, and even myself, that will see a play in slow motion and if the defender is a fraction of a second early we'll be saying its just like the Rams play and should be overturned when in reality its nothing like the Rams play. Again we could go another 32 or 50 years and never see such an egregious missed call, but fans are going to want every tacky tack call made now to be corrected. The games will take longer and the fans will be even more pissed when the rulings don't go their way.
 

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....I tell you what CC... the games will easily go into the 3+ hr range. It takes roughly 4-5 mins to review most calls. This new rule will add anther 30+ min of game time. If the networks aren't the first to complain about this, the fans will see to it.

further-note.. this heavily favors the offense. Especially late in the game when tensions are high and error is barking like mad dog. Chances are higher DB gets the ticket. Dallas history of DB's have always been fidgety individuals.
 

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Since this rule is new this year, it's too early to call how this will effect the game but I am wondering how this will effect the play calling, particularly the team that wants to be balanced.

It remains to be seen if this will be red flagged a lot more but on those deep balls, the risk v reward is pretty good if the offense gets the call.

The other part of that is what effect will this have on how the DB's play these plays, will this alter the style of play of aggressive DB's to the point the OC's start calling more deep balls?

The NFL loves the big play and I think they were ecstatic that the missed call in NO happened enabling them to do what they wanted to do anyway, open the game and scoring up even more. Think the ratings of that KC-LAR game didn't get a lot of mileage at the owners' meeting? The only holdup was the time to play the games and more stops but integrity comes first, by golly.

I look at this offense, especially with these WR's, and most can go deep but the question is can the OL give the QB time to complete those plays? I do think that Young Kellen will favor those plays because he liked them as a QB.

Good thing for us on offense or bad thing for us on defense?

You bring up a great point with risk vs reward. I've never had a good suggestion in how to balance this, but I've talked with friends about offensive PI doesn't carry a heavy enough penalty for how severe defensive PI. Not that I think it's a good idea, but the equivalent would be the defense gets the ball at the foul spot.

I don't think it will change a lot in the broad play calling of the league. The offensive tilt is here in both rule and mentality. More than likely it will turn a few games specifically though--I hope.
 

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Since this rule is new this year, it's too early to call how this will effect the game but I am wondering how this will effect the play calling, particularly the team that wants to be balanced.

It remains to be seen if this will be red flagged a lot more but on those deep balls, the risk v reward is pretty good if the offense gets the call.

The other part of that is what effect will this have on how the DB's play these plays, will this alter the style of play of aggressive DB's to the point the OC's start calling more deep balls?

The NFL loves the big play and I think they were ecstatic that the missed call in NO happened enabling them to do what they wanted to do anyway, open the game and scoring up even more. Think the ratings of that KC-LAR game didn't get a lot of mileage at the owners' meeting? The only holdup was the time to play the games and more stops but integrity comes first, by golly.

I look at this offense, especially with these WR's, and most can go deep but the question is can the OL give the QB time to complete those plays? I do think that Young Kellen will favor those plays because he liked them as a QB.

Good thing for us on offense or bad thing for us on defense?
Its a good thing for our young OC. He will have a slightly greater chance of a completion via flag if he goes deep more than Linehan did. Not sure about the stats as far as how many deep passes per game that Linehan called. I want us balanced or run heavy, especially if Pollard works out to be good relief for Elliot. Our O-Line will hopefully stay heathy and will be improved from last season. Dak will have time and should have better timing with Gallup and Copper.. The missed call in the playoff game was one of the worst I have ever seen. The Dez catch-non catch was a robbery but that missed call was almost criminal. I mean coach come on everybody in the stadium including the player that did it knew. No way the refs didn't.
 

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The rules for pass interference should have never been changed. If the Rams/Saints play doesn't happen last season, then there would be no rule change. One really egregious missed call after 32 years of using instant replay and they feel they have to change the rules. That play was the exception that proves the rule that nothing should have been changed. The problem now is going to be the fan bases, and even myself, that will see a play in slow motion and if the defender is a fraction of a second early we'll be saying its just like the Rams play and should be overturned when in reality its nothing like the Rams play. Again we could go another 32 or 50 years and never see such an egregious missed call, but fans are going to want every tacky tack call made now to be corrected. The games will take longer and the fans will be even more pissed when the rulings don't go their way.
Yep but with all of the hoopla the media threw on this, you knew this was coming. This is not the first time they've considered this as reviewable either.

I think what they should have done in conjunction with this was change to the college penalty, 15 yards and a 1st, not point of the foul. But the NFL doesn't like to adopt NCAA rules.
 

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I think the tricky part of this is handling this from the DB role. How much space can one give? What about the receiver creating the interference by slowing down or even stopping?

Our guys are going to face some good WR's and creating the PI is going to be a new art form for some of them and Desean Jackson is back in the division. WR's with speed and good body control are going to be in demand even more.

I think the NFL can head this off at the pass because more stop downs are going to create a problem with a televised sport that already has too many. Make is really difficult to get that call. Make the red flagger lose a time out and they will be more reluctant to throw them.

They need to discern between incidental contact and flagrant PI from the get go and get the boundaries established or coaches will push the envelope.
 
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