Can you name 12 WR's Better than Cooper?

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A good QB can make a receiver look better IE Romo and Robinson, Romo and Dez. We have the opposite issue in Dallas and need our skill players to prop up the would be QB. Since Dak has started every receivers yards per catch have gone down, every year. Outside of coopers 2 long catch and run touchdowns his numbers here were just ok. The last 3 games averaging 4 catches for 26 yards each. Maybe Moores offense will open things up, who knows. But cooper will get plenty of opportunity to use his madden video game moves on defenders and make Dak look like a real QB.

This isn’t a Dak thread. It’s a WR ranking thread. People with brains, can rank receivers while recognizing they all have different QB’s throwing them the ball.
 

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People bash dez even if he was constantly getting open and either dropping the ball or simply not getting it.

I noticed no criticism whenever cooper dropped the ball and was a reason why oakland shipped him away. And no criticism of his 3 duds to end the regular season. I think Cooper is definitely top 12, but I also noticed some are quick to hype him and forget about duds, where they were quick to bash the previous wr for the same results...the guy who apparently is slow and can't run routes
 

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in My book:

Wide Receivers

1 julio jones

2 antonio brown

3 oj beckham

4 deandre Hopkins

5 tyrek hill

6 AMARI COOPER *

7 mike Thomas

8 Juju smith

9 stefon diggs

10 adam Thielman

11 mike evans

12 a.j. green

13 keenan allen

14 desean Jackson

15 brandon cooks

16 ty Hilton

17 davonte adams

18 jarvis landry

19 tyler lockett

20 larry fitzgerald
 

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This isn’t a Dak thread. It’s a WR ranking thread. People with brains, can rank receivers while recognizing they all have different QB’s throwing them the ball.


When you figure out how a wr gets the ball without a QB let me know.

Will brown be as good without ben? Or vice versa? Brees may be a hall of famer so did he make thomas a legit #1? So yes having a top 10 QB makes a difference in how well a WR performs...Maybe you don't get that. Probably never will.
 

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People bash dez even if he was constantly getting open and either dropping the ball or simply not getting it.

I noticed no criticism whenever cooper dropped the ball and was a reason why oakland shipped him away. And no criticism of his 3 duds to end the regular season. I think Cooper is definitely top 12, but I also noticed some are quick to hype him and forget about duds, where they were quick to bash the previous wr for the same results...the guy who apparently is slow and can't run routes

- Since he's arrived here in Dallas, what has been his Duds here ?

- Apparently we aren't hearing the criticism because he hasn't had the drop the ball here in Dallas.
I dunno what the deal was with supposedly drops, but so far he has not displayed the dropsies issues here with the Cowboys. If anything he is showing he has natural snatch- catch ability.

- But I’m loving Cooper’s stick glue hands, absolute dynamite footwork and route running and RAC run skills. He continues to spin CBs around with his quickness and he can turn a short slant into a big home run TD catch. Or simply fly by CBs over the top.
And he’s not diva head case either. We won’t hear him flapping and bumping his gums in the locker room about his QB or coaches like we do with Antonio Brown or O.J. Beckham.

- And with Coopers’ supposed issues with Oak, You never know when a change of football atmosphere does wonders for a players confidence and motivation.
Who knows how the Gruden camp affected Cooper’s mood and morale. But I’m definitely not seeing that as an issue now.

- Further into his career, Dez seem to depend solely on his size, muscle-physicality and jump ball skills to get open. As he sustains more leg injuries, that much more wear and tear toll on his body and gets that much older, - and he’s never been an elite route runner, It became more apparent that he was finding it more difficult to separate from the league’s coverage CBs. Even the lesser regarded ones.

Declining as a performing player and also an annoying, disruptive factor in Dak’s ear was apparently enough to not only not warranted 16-17 mill, but Cowboys brass also wanted to create that Dak-friendly atmosphere. Cowboys were determined to create and move on from a life without Dez at the Star Frisco.
 

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When you figure out how a wr gets the ball without a QB let me know.
Three different pass catchers have made Pro Bowls with Dak throwing them the ball, so I'm not worried there.

Dez had more red zone TD from Dak (10) in 2016-17 than Amari has in his four-year career (8). This is a legitimate concern.
 

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That statement was a contradiction to the statement he made earlier. He said "Give me 8 to 10 touches a game and I'll catch 7 to 9 and help my team win". Not a direct quote, I'm just giving you guys the contents of what I read. 2000 that is not unless they are long ones.
What are you getting at? Cooper shouldn't set lofty goals? You doubt he can do it? I mischaracterize what he said? I really don't get what your point here is. I just expressed my personal opinion and you seem to have some objections to what I shared. Would you prefer I keep my opinions to myself? Explain, please.
 

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When you figure out how a wr gets the ball without a QB let me know.

Will brown be as good without ben? Or vice versa? Brees may be a hall of famer so did he make thomas a legit #1? So yes having a top 10 QB makes a difference in how well a WR performs...Maybe you don't get that. Probably never will.

Again, people with a brain can evaluate receivers, while taking into account they get the ball from different QB’s. Like I said.

You didn’t do that. You just went into a lame diatribe about Dak dragging his receivers down. Your post didn’t even try to evaluate what the receivers themselves bring to the table.
 
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great receiver + great qb=great combo. sometimes you have a calvin Johnson who simply transcends he position. he could catch the call triple covered.
 

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As long as he can draw doubles and open up others for gains, win some single covers and make us a better team, I don't care where he ranks. He's a Cowboy!
Ummm, yes, you do. Know how a WR draws doubles? By being top 12.
 

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People bash dez even if he was constantly getting open and either dropping the ball or simply not getting it.

I noticed no criticism whenever cooper dropped the ball and was a reason why oakland shipped him away. And no criticism of his 3 duds to end the regular season. I think Cooper is definitely top 12, but I also noticed some are quick to hype him and forget about duds, where they were quick to bash the previous wr for the same results...the guy who apparently is slow and can't run routes
Dez was never constantly getting open.
 

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His time in Dallas easily has him as a top 8. his career has him as top 15
 

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When you figure out how a wr gets the ball without a QB let me know.

Will brown be as good without ben? Or vice versa? Brees may be a hall of famer so did he make thomas a legit #1? So yes having a top 10 QB makes a difference in how well a WR performs...Maybe you don't get that. Probably never will.


Adam Thielen: 113/1373: Cousins doesn't touch top 10. Or 20
Mike Evans: 86/1524: Fitzpatrick/Winston. Ick.
George Kittle: 88/1,377. Mullens/Beathard. Double ick.

Might want to rethink that, and also think twice about throwing those little insults around when you're wrong.
 

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until very recently, this team has sucked at developing te's or wr's.
We've been terrible at developing players for a long time now. Dak is one of them. I'm hoping beyond hope that the Moore/Kitna combo understands this and starts developing him. Honestly, I haven't seen improvement in Dak's game since he got here.

Not sure exactly why, maybe it's the win now mode, or maybe it's due to JG always trying to fit players into what he wants.
 
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