Twitter: We forget, selecting Zeke 4th overall was more about Romo, not Dak

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ArtClink said:
Jerry moved heaven and earth for Romo and overpaid him like he was Peyton freakin' Manning. Romo was a nice injury prone qb who won us 3 wc games in just the ten years. Dak in 3 yrs has almost caught him. Romos support cast in 2007 when we went 13-3 was super bowl caliber (parcells built) and they laid an egg in div round (thx patrick crayton).
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Pssst. 2.
 
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rocyaice said:
No team put 50 up on them either lol.
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Atlanta could have easily put up 50 on them the following week if they hadn't blown them out and then was more focused in ending the game than scoring.

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You guys will create any narrative you can to boost up Romo and down a Dak. It’s laughable lol.
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Uh, you have it backward. Check the stats, it's not close.

Just to keep it simple so everybody can understand it:

2014 Packers: 8-0 at home and gave up 20 points a game

2016 Packers: 4-4 on the road and gave up 28 points a game. Heavily injured in the secondary in the playoffs.
 
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Gator88 said:
Atlanta could have easily put up 50 on them the following week if they hadn't blown them out and then was more focused in ending the game than scoring.


Uh, you have it backward. Check the stats, it's not close.

Just to keep it simple so everybody can understand it:

2014 Packers: 8-0 at home and gave up 20 points a game

2016 Packers: 4-4 on the road and gave up 28 points a game. Heavily injured in the secondary in the playoffs.
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Alright. If you think that Packers defense in 2014 was good I don’t know what to tell you lol.
 
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rocyaice said:
Alright. If you think that Packers defense in 2014 was good I don’t know what to tell you lol.
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I never said that. I said it was leagues better than the trainwreck defense they had in 2016 which is true though.
 

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Gator88 said:
Above average, and good against the pass?


Fine, I'll drop the mic since people are content to be wrong without looking it up.







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I did look it up. Looked marginally better to me.

Maybe you were replying to someone else, because I gave no indication that I was guessing. Also, the team rushed a lot more in 14 which can easily skew the stats.
 
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kskboys said:
I did look it up. Looked marginally better to me.

Maybe you were replying to someone else, because I gave no indication that I was guessing. Also, the team rushed a lot more in 14 which can easily skew the stats.
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I mean I posted the stats in that post for each team in the home/road games which matched their playoff matchups with Dallas which was the original point of the discussion. There is a difference of 30 passer rating, almost 14% completion %, and over 2 ypa for the averages. That is leagues of difference on efficiency stats which the rushing difference wouldn't affect anything close to that much.

Even in the full season, the 2014 Packers were 7th overall in Passer rating against, while the 2016 Packers were 26th with a difference of 13.9 between the 2.
 
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glimmerman said:
Once Romo went down then all bets were off.

Not sure but pretty sure that if Romo was healthy in 2016 that we would have won the SB. This team was stacked in Romo favor. From the line to WR. All players that Romo loves working with and we’re familiar. And had another star RB that would have made his job easy. The swan song drive at the end of that year from him looked so effortless for him to execute. Imagine that kind of play all season. Or in the playoffs.
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He was healthy from at least game 7 or 8 on but the team didn't want to give him his starting job back. Dak played great as a rookie but when Romo was healthy he was the better QB. If your trying to win a SB shouldn't you be playing your best players? Never will understand that decision (except that i believe they made for money)
 

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He was healthy from at least game 7 or 8 on but the team didn't want to give him his starting job back. Dak played great as a rookie but when Romo was healthy he was the better QB. If your trying to win a SB shouldn't you be playing your best players? Never will understand that decision (except that i believe they made for money)
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Should have played Romo in 2016. We had already paid for him. If it doesn't work out, go with Dak in 2017. Two bites at the QB apple that way. If it does work out, we've now got 2 QBs we like.

Even if they wanted to move on in 2017, we would have been much more successful trading Tony if we had let him play out the season.

Theory: Dak was Garrett's chance to stick with the team after the Romo era. The transition away from Tony was the logical time to dump Garrett, but if he has a good season with Dak, maybe you don't want to rock that boat.
 

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I mean I posted the stats in that post for each team in the home/road games which matched their playoff matchups with Dallas which was the original point of the discussion. There is a difference of 30 passer rating, almost 14% completion %, and over 2 ypa for the averages. That is leagues of difference on efficiency stats which the rushing difference wouldn't affect anything close to that much.

Even in the full season, the 2014 Packers were 7th overall in Passer rating against, while the 2016 Packers were 26th with a difference of 13.9 between the 2.
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You're cherry picking. The 14 Packers couldn't stop the run.

Secondly, we were rating the overall D of the Packers in 14 as opposed to 16. Using a one game analysis is not near enough of a sample to come to a conclusion.
 
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kskboys said:
You're cherry picking. The 14 Packers couldn't stop the run.

Secondly, we were rating the overall D of the Packers in 14 as opposed to 16. Using a one game analysis is not near enough of a sample to come to a conclusion.
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:rolleyes: I have been comparing the home D of the 2014 Packers to the road D of the 2016 Packers and primarily focusing on the pass as this was a comparison of Romo and Dak's playoff performances. I provided details on all of the games for those situations and there was a substantial difference between the way each GB defense performed.

If you want to try to argue these facts, feel free, but I won't be participating anymore since the results speak for themselves.
 

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Hawkeye0202 said:
Kinda forgot about that until reading this tweet from Helman. Ideally, he was going be a younger, cheaper, more extended version of 2014 DeMarco Murray. Making life easier for Romo.....


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You must have never read any of my posts
 
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Gator88 said:
:lmao: Defensively, the 2014 Packers in GB were leagues better than the 2016 Packers on the road. The 2016 Packers defense on the road was terrible particularly against the pass where Dak's performance in the playoffs was slightly below average compared to the rest of their season.
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True.
Not really comparable at all.
That 2014 Green Bay team got after the QB, especially at home. Playing them outdoors at Lambeau in January is no picnic.

Too bad we lost the tie-breaker to them that year.
 
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He was healthy from at least game 7 or 8 on but the team didn't want to give him his starting job back. Dak played great as a rookie but when Romo was healthy he was the better QB. If your trying to win a SB shouldn't you be playing your best players? Never will understand that decision (except that i believe they made for money)
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I somewhat disagree.

In all seriousness, I believe Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett were so caught up in the euphoria of the team's winning season that they fully accepted the same belief held by many others. A quarterback was having a (literally) phenomenal rookie season. The 2016 regular season was rationalized by Jones, Garrett, and others that a rookie was more capable of taking the team to the Super Bowl.

It is that simple. Deflective arguments were made about the veteran quarterback's health, both recent and past. The same was justified by the veteran quarterback's previous track record. No. In my opinion, the only reason, why the veteran quarterback was not reinstated as the starter, had very little to do with the team suddenly being gifted with a brand new quarterback for a discount, but mostly or everything to do with believing:

the
most
capable
quarterback

--for winning the Super Bowl that season should not be sidelined.
 

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Northern_Cowboy said:
He was healthy from at least game 7 or 8 on but the team didn't want to give him his starting job back. Dak played great as a rookie but when Romo was healthy he was the better QB. If your trying to win a SB shouldn't you be playing your best players? Never will understand that decision (except that i believe they made for money)
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Jersey sales. That's why Jerry doesn't deserve another Super Bowl. . . too damn Arrogant assuming
 
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