Where does Dak Prescott rank among QBs in NFL?

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How would you rank Dak Prescott among the better QBs in the NFL ?

(in my book)
1 Tom Brady NE
2 Pat Mahomes KC
3 Aaron Rodgers GB
4 Drew Brees NO
5 Russell Wilson Sea
6 Jared Goff LARa
7 Matt Ryan ATL
8 Phillip Rivers LAC
9 Carlson Wentz Phil
10 Andrew Luck Indy
11 Ben Roesthlisberger Pitt
12 Deshaun Watson Hou
13 DAK PRESCOTT Dal * *
14 Matthew Stafford Det
15 Baker Mayfield Clev
16 Derek Carr Oak
17 Cam Newton Car
18 Mitch Trubisky Chic
19 Nick Foles Jax
20 Kirk Cousins Minn

Tells more about "your book" :)

1 Tom Brady NE, confident and accurate, immobile, fun to watch
2 Pat Mahomes KC, monster arm, weak 2 minute skills, needs to play in all passing O, can't manage a game
3 Aaron Rodgers GB, aging miracle worker, wack environment, fun to watch
4 Drew Brees NO, aging miracle worker, but throws 2 / + ridiculous shots a game (much like Romo, but less fragile)
5 Russell Wilson Sea, super efficient, lacks arm strength, decent athlete, questionable leader
6 Jared Goff LARa, great touch, a coward, often goes brain dead (I did want to draft him at the time - I was wrong
7 Matt Ryan ATL, almost at the level of great, don't think he'll get there
8 Phillip Rivers LAC,steady, don't think he'll get there
9 Carlson Wentz Phil, lanky with a tendency to go brain dead, the combo I don't wish on even
10 Andrew Luck Indy, on paper the most talented, but is yet to really deliver
11 Ben Roesthlisberger Pitt, old, and declining fast under current workload
12 Deshaun Watson Hou, hard to say - wack environment, is athlete enough
13 DAK PRESCOTT Dal * wack environment, good athlete, weird mechanics, good leader, nice 2 minute skills
14 Matthew Stafford Det, sucks, wack environment, losers to the bone
15 Baker Mayfield Clev, hard to say - wack environment, is athlete enough
16 Derek Carr Oak, sucks, cowardly, just looks he part
17 Cam Newton Car, no touch, an adventure in the pocket, poor leader
18 Mitch Trubisky Chic, mediocre athlete, team likes him, a leader?
19 Nick Foles Jax, fragile, weak leader
20 Kirk Cousins, fragile, weak leader, weak arm
 

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I would put Dak above Wentz & Luck. Both players maybe good when they are healthy. The problem is they have missed significant playing time.
 

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And Mahomes the Patriots showed us middle pressure destroys him.

If being destroyed by a defense is 16/31 295 yards, 3 TD, 0 INTs and leading your team to 31 points I will take it any day. Know how many times we scored 31 or more last year? You can count them on one hand (3). Yes he struggled like all do when pressure comes up the middle, but to say destroyed is a bit much. The defense is the reason they lost that game, not Pat.
 

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Not a fan of linear rankings, but I have Dak on the tier with Goff, Wentz, Watson, Stafford, and probably Mayfield. "Good enough to win with," basically.
 

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If being destroyed by a defense is 16/31 295 yards, 3 TD, 0 INTs and leading your team to 31 points I will take it any day. Know how many times we scored 31 or more last year? You can count them on one hand (3). Yes he struggled like all do when pressure comes up the middle, but to say destroyed is a bit much. The defense is the reason they lost that game, not Pat.
He missed so many wide open receivers. Yes they destroyed him. He didn't do anything till late in the fourth quarter. He was putting up Hail Marys
 

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If being destroyed by a defense is 16/31 295 yards, 3 TD, 0 INTs and leading your team to 31 points I will take it any day. Know how many times we scored 31 or more last year? You can count them on one hand (3). Yes he struggled like all do when pressure comes up the middle, but to say destroyed is a bit much. The defense is the reason they lost that game, not Pat.
They destroyed him for 3/4. They let up. And then when they pressured him again they shut him down. What's the game again
 

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Traditional passer rating ranks him like this:
1 Brees 106.4
2 Ryan 105.7
3 Brady 103.5
4 Rodgers 100.3
5 Wilson 98.7
6 Luck 97.5
7 Cousins 97.0
8 Rivers 96.1
9 Prescott 95.9
10 Smith 95.3

ESPN's Total QBR puts him here:
1 Brady 73.5
2 Ryan 71.5
3 Brees 70.0
4 Luck 68.8
5 Prescott 68.4
6 Rodgers 66.4
7 Rthlsbrgr 66.3
8 Rivers 63.3
9 Wentz 63.2
10 Wilson 62.1

That's regular season. If you include playoffs, he moves up to 8th and 4th.
 

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Traditional passer rating ranks him like this:
1 Brees 106.4
2 Ryan 105.7
3 Brady 103.5
4 Rodgers 100.3
5 Wilson 98.7
6 Luck 97.5
7 Cousins 97.0
8 Rivers 96.1
9 Prescott 95.9
10 Smith 95.3

ESPN's Total QBR puts him here:
1 Brady 73.5
2 Ryan 71.5
3 Brees 70.0
4 Luck 68.8
5 Prescott 68.4
6 Rodgers 66.4
7 Rthlsbrgr 66.3
8 Rivers 63.3
9 Wentz 63.2
10 Wilson 62.1

That's regular season. If you include playoffs, he moves up to 8th and 4th.

Yeah but what does the “eye ball test” say?
 

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We'll see, but the fact of the matter is that it is currently not in fact, the going rate for average QBs. In fact, there are no average QBs make 30 plus in the League.
How many starting QB's got signed for a long term deal this off-season and who are they? Before the 2018 off-season, who would've thought that QB's like Cousins or Garoppolo would set the "average QB" market in the upper 20's (Cousin's is like close to or at $29M)? Who would've thought that Wilson would be making $35M a year average in his deal to be the highest paid QB? Is he worth it being paid that much? Sure. That's the market. In the 2020 offseason, don't be surprised if a very good QB gets a $36-37M contract.

Cap goin' up, so contracts goin' up. It would be nice if they were all like Brees or Brady.

Getting a quality QB like Dak for $25M was a pipe dream. He ain't 40 years old chasing his 2nd Lombardi at all costs or 41 year old QB with 6 rings, and a multi-millionaire wife, that's trying to hang around the league as long as his wizard coach keeps conjuring HFA playoff trips...
 
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Carson Wentz no way better. And Mahomes the Patriots showed us middle pressure destroys him. Aaron Rodgers I'll take Prescott before him now any day. Mr Hail Mary put the ball up for grabs has lost it. I could go on and on but. Statistically he's in the top five. But who cares about statistics. , they are for your career not for anything else

Let's speak in reality.

You believe Prescott is better than Mahomes. If that's the case you would believe Prescott can throw for 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the same year. When have you seen anything watching Prescott that he has that ability in the passing game?

That is the flaw in Prescott. He is above average, but not great or elite. He just doesn't have the "it" in the passing game to elevate him to the top tiers of QBs.

This is just an example so don't take it the wrong way. Remember when some games Dallas wouldn't show up with a running game or defense and Romo would be asked to throw 40+ times for 400 yards and at least 3 touchdowns just to keep Dallas in the game. Well if you look at the very top QBs they have this trait. Once again, Prescott doesn't have this gear, he will never be a gunslinger. Not in his DNA.

Put Prescott on Kansas City and he would be like Alex Smith. Andy Reid would start him, but he would be looking to upgrade. All because of the passing game.

If Prescott were an elite QB, Dallas would be favorites. But he's above average, so they are just contenders.
 

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I'm telling you I would definitely take Prescott right now over Aaron Rodgers. Reading comprehension properly I believe Dak Prescott was the best quarterback in his class. Jared Goff cannot read a defense and Carson Wentz I never appreciated

Could I please have this quote as my signature? With your permission, of course.
 

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Two things that people generally fail to factor in with QBs
1) Durability
2) Run threat

Dak comes up big on both. 6 tds a season rushing. I think that's tops in the league the last 3 years.
https://pickingpros.com/nfl/2018/quarterback-rushing-leaders.php

Too many fumbles and fumbles lost in 2018, though.

I think Dak would come up higher in the stats with an offense that made a point of taking advantage of him. When we do it, Dak has big games running.

I expect Moore to make Dak a big part of a multiple run threat offense. Olawale, Cobb, Austin, Pollard. We kept and picked up a lot of complementary run threats to Zeke who can be on the field when Zeke is. Dak is a natural fit for such a system.

So you're saying because Tom Brady doesn't run, Dak is somehow superior....?
 

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Rodgers
Mahomes
Brady
Rothlisberger
Brees
Luck
Wilson
Wentz
Mayfield
Stafford
Rivers
Ryan
Prescott
Newton
Goff
Everyone else
 

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Let's speak in reality.

You believe Prescott is better than Mahomes. If that's the case you would believe Prescott can throw for 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the same year. When have you seen anything watching Prescott that he has that ability in the passing game?

That is the flaw in Prescott. He is above average, but not great or elite. He just doesn't have the "it" in the passing game to elevate him to the top tiers of QBs.

This is just an example so don't take it the wrong way. Remember when some games Dallas wouldn't show up with a running game or defense and Romo would be asked to throw 40+ times for 400 yards and at least 3 touchdowns just to keep Dallas in the game. Well if you look at the very top QBs they have this trait. Once again, Prescott doesn't have this gear, he will never be a gunslinger. Not in his DNA.

Put Prescott on Kansas City and he would be like Alex Smith. Andy Reid would start him, but he would be looking to upgrade. All because of the passing game.

If Prescott were an elite QB, Dallas would be favorites. But he's above average, so they are just contenders.
First of all. Show me where I said Prescott is better than Mahomes. Second of all you can't interact different quarterbacks with different teams the scheme is different. Did you forget the Giants game The Ravens game where they turned Prescott loose. He was brilliant do you understand why we don't throw for that many yards. Do you know how many teams lose because they throw for too many yards. Throwing for yardage means absolutely nothing. Anything else you need me to explain to you
 

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Let's speak in reality.

You believe Prescott is better than Mahomes. If that's the case you would believe Prescott can throw for 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the same year. When have you seen anything watching Prescott that he has that ability in the passing game?

That is the flaw in Prescott. He is above average, but not great or elite. He just doesn't have the "it" in the passing game to elevate him to the top tiers of QBs.

This is just an example so don't take it the wrong way. Remember when some games Dallas wouldn't show up with a running game or defense and Romo would be asked to throw 40+ times for 400 yards and at least 3 touchdowns just to keep Dallas in the game. Well if you look at the very top QBs they have this trait. Once again, Prescott doesn't have this gear, he will never be a gunslinger. Not in his DNA.

Put Prescott on Kansas City and he would be like Alex Smith. Andy Reid would start him, but he would be looking to upgrade. All because of the passing game.

If Prescott were an elite QB, Dallas would be favorites. But he's above average, so they are just contenders.
We took the youngest starting team in the league, to the second round of the playoffs and you call that average LOL
 

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Let's speak in reality.

You believe Prescott is better than Mahomes. If that's the case you would believe Prescott can throw for 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the same year. When have you seen anything watching Prescott that he has that ability in the passing game?

That is the flaw in Prescott. He is above average, but not great or elite. He just doesn't have the "it" in the passing game to elevate him to the top tiers of QBs.

This is just an example so don't take it the wrong way. Remember when some games Dallas wouldn't show up with a running game or defense and Romo would be asked to throw 40+ times for 400 yards and at least 3 touchdowns just to keep Dallas in the game. Well if you look at the very top QBs they have this trait. Once again, Prescott doesn't have this gear, he will never be a gunslinger. Not in his DNA.

Put Prescott on Kansas City and he would be like Alex Smith. Andy Reid would start him, but he would be looking to upgrade. All because of the passing game.

If Prescott were an elite QB, Dallas would be favorites. But he's above average, so they are just contenders.
It's funny Mahomes blew the playoff game against the Patriots. Running backwards taking himself out of field-goal range was the mistake of the day. Patriots destroyed him with middle pressure. Only time he did good is when they backed off. I can't wait to see how the lead treat sitting now that they know his weaknesses
 
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