Common myths and misconceptions about the Dallas Cowboys

StarBoyz83

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Been debunked plenty of times. Maybe we should get the guys from myth busters on it?

Yes we should. I used to love that show. Besides the moon landing was bs imo

Romo:
Had a legit defense like 2 times
Had a legit oline like 3 times
Had a great rb like 2-3 times
Had a good oc and hc 3 times

Hard to say he really had a team around him.
 

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Dez Bryant little finger came down out of bounds in New York. LOL

The finger game was in Dallas actually. I was referring to Dez' other "going to the ground rule" game in 2013. We won that game so it quickly got buried and moved on from. But when we lost .... "Oh the humanity!"
 

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Landry - Not trying to be dismissive, but I don't think anyone thought he was on top of his coaching game. Landry was not given the respect he had earned. That was the issue. There is a way to do such things for great people. Even Jerry said he regretted the offhand manner of that event.

While Jerry didn't do it the right way, that' wasn't the attitude of many Cowboys fans in the years that followed. They didn't say, "I will never forgive Jerry for the way he fired Landry;" they said "I will never forgive Jerry for firing Landry (period.)" It doesn't seem to occur to them that if Landry weren't fired, there would be no 1990s dynasty.
 

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Romo never really had a team around him. Except for maybe 2-3 seasons he played. Maybe that's why.

Parcells built a super bowl roster around Romo. The next year coach cupcake had us 13-3 and one playoff win from the nfc championship gm. That team had a better roster top to bottom than Dak has ever had.
 

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Yes we should. I used to love that show. Besides the moon landing was bs imo

Romo:
Had a legit defense like 2 times
Had a legit oline like 3 times
Had a great rb like 2-3 times
Had a good oc and hc 3 times

Hard to say he really had a team around him.
You think we didn't land on the moon?
 

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Romo never really had a team around him. Except for maybe 2-3 seasons he played. Maybe that's why.

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StarBoyz83

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Parcells built a super bowl roster around Romo. The next year coach cupcake had us 13-3 and one playoff win from the nfc championship gm. That team had a better roster top to bottom than Dak has ever had.

Still like I'm saying he had a team around him like 3 years
 

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The players partied but always had Jimmy's voice in the back of their mind and they gave themselves some limits because of it.

Once Jimmy was gone it's like a 17 year old when the parents go out of town.

Erik Williams probably would not have been as out of control which cased him to have the car wreck.

The Cowboys win the 94 NFC Championship with a healthy Erik Williams.

EW was the best player on the team in 92 and 93. Maybe the best in the league at any position. The players from back then will agree with that and many have said it.

The best move would have been for Jimmy to coach two more years. If not for Jerry's ego, Jimmy could have moved to GM-only after 95 and hire a new HC because the players would have eventually burned out on his coaching style.

The cap did start in 94 and players like Haley and Novacek had back injuries that accelerated their decline; however, Jimmy's style was to replace veterans with draft picks on a routine basis anyway. The vast majority of the 92 and 93 players would have been on their rookie contracts with the current rules. Jimmy could have kept a strong team for the next several years when Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt were all healthy.

Before blaming Jerry, it should be noted that Jimmy wouldn't have been here in the 1st place if not for Jerry.

Good points. Can’t disagree with anything.

Glad to see a knowledgeable fan who holds Erik Williams in such high regard.

I’m with you, xwalker. Had EW stayed healthy, nearly everyone would mention his name in the same breath as Anthony Munoz in much the same way Larry Allen and John Hannah are mentioned together.

When healthy, EW was the best tackle I’ve watched other than Munoz. Williams was a dominant player.
 

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  • There is a common belief that if Jimmy Johnson had continued staying on with the Cowboys in the 1990s, that Dallas might have won 4 or 5 Super Bowls, Belichick-style. But the players themselves said (in the Pearlman book, Boys will be Boys) that they had grown weary of Jimmy's overbearing style and that was starting to hurt rather than help. Having Jimmy stay at the helm might have helped in drafting and signing talent, but his coaching style may very well have backfired and worsened things beyond 1993. Also, the salary cap was coming along as well.
  • Deion's pass interference on Irvin hurt the Cowboys in the 1994 title game, but it came when the Cowboys were trailing by a full ten points. Even if Dallas scores a touchdown, it would still have to get the ball back, and score again. Many Cowboys fans talk about that incident as if the interference no-call were the sole deciding difference in victory and defeat that day. It was merely the first out of several things that would have all had to consecutively go Dallas' way for victory that day.
  • "The Catch" in the 1981 title game did not take place in the game's waning seconds; it took place with around a full minute of time still remaining.
  • When Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry, it came at a time when the majority of people in Dallas-Fort Worth were already fed up with Landry and wanted him fired (61% of poll respondents, if I recall correctly.) It was not a case of Jerry flouting public opinion and firing a coach who was still wanted by the fans; most DFW-ers wanted Landry gone.
  • Bonus one: I am not sure, maybe someone could correct me on this one, but - is it true that the Cowboys did not, in fact, guarantee Randy Moss that they were going to draft him in 1998, and that it was more his wrong expectations than an actual broken promise by Dallas?
The biggest misconception by far to me is that the Cowboys won their Super Bowls because they got a ton of draft choices and players for Herschel Walker. It was a one-sided trade for sure. The haul of players was nothing near what people make it out to be (Jesse Solomon, David Howard, Issaic Holt, Darrin Nelson, Alex Stewart) and as far as picks, everyone likes to say the Cowboys selected Emmit Smith with one of the picks which is simply just not true. What happened was Dallas took one of their own high picks and one of the Minny picks and traded up and picked Emmith, meaning 1/2 of Emmit came from one of the Minny picks.
 

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It wasn't a fumbled snap. White was hit as he threw an incomplete pass. His arm was moving forward; his hand was in control of the ball; the ball few forward. Incomplete pass. The refs screwed that one up. Cowboys should have kept the ball.
Oh geez I totally remembered it wrong, definitely not a fumbled snap lol
 

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While Jerry didn't do it the right way, that' wasn't the attitude of many Cowboys fans in the years that followed. They didn't say, "I will never forgive Jerry for the way he fired Landry;" they said "I will never forgive Jerry for firing Landry (period.)" It doesn't seem to occur to them that if Landry weren't fired, there would be no 1990s dynasty.
I understand your point and appreciate the intent - I personally felt the way it was done was wrong. I heard many others say the same thing. When you say, "many," do you mean the majority? Once again, I am not trying to demean your post, I just think there is another viewpoint on that one about Landry.
 
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