Why draft a back 4th overall if you’re not willing to pay him?

ABQCOWBOY said:

But you don't have to pay those other guys top money, that's the difference. They aren't corner stones of your team. I mean, it's like you guys ignore the obvious and simply go on this make believe tangent. The question was asked, "What did he do other then cupping a women?" I mean, seriously, like he needs to do more then that? I realize you didn't make that utterly ridiculous comment, you are much smarter then to say something like that, but think about it now. Does a person need to do more then? You don't make that guy the face of your Franchise. Just not smart Football.

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ABQCOWBOY said:

This should really tell you something. The NFL doesn't value those guys but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. It means that teams don't do it that way anymore. Besides, I never said that a replacement needs to average 20 carries, I said that he needs to be able to give you 20 carries and every team should have one of those guys on the roster. That guy does not have to be Elite. He just has to be able to execute the play. Zeke is the only guy because we are the only team who does it this way apparently. It's not because there aren't enough talented RBs in the NFL. That's just not reasonable.

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OmerV said:

Well hell, anyone can carry the ball 20 times every once in awhile. That's not remotely a special quality in a RB. As for the rest of the NFL, it doesn't matter if they don't use RBs the same way Dallas does, if Dallas has a bigger commitment to the running game than other teams, they have to have the players for it.

Hell, let's go back to just agreeing to disagree. I know that won't sit well with you, so just tell me I'm wrong one more time and we can call it good at that.

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Cowboysheelsreds053 said:

Without Zeke who is going to run the ball to keep pressure off of Dak? Morris? Forget it.

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Bob-Lillys-War said:

This is why Garrett put Kellen Moore in charge .

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Cowboysheelsreds053 said:

Let's keep our fingers crossed for a quick resolution here.

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TheFinisher said:

All this handwringing over paying a 24 year old running back is ludicrous considering they spent a top 5 pick on him just a few seasons ago. All he’s done in 3 seasons is justify his draft position, and now we’re not willing to pay a back because of our philosophy? How does that make any sense?

They look like morons for taking him 4th overall if they’re not willing to pay him.

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coult44 said:

Is it just me or didn’t they agree to pay him for five years when they drafted him number 4? Is it just me, or did he sign that agreement, take their money, break the agreement, agree to the new terms, take their money again, and now wants to break it again. Confusing right?

The bottom line is Zeke signed a contract. He’s the dummy who went and made himself an unmarketable product. He could be the face of the worlds most valuable sports franchise. How much would that be worth? He screwed that up. Not Jerry, not Dak, not the press, and not his agent. Ezekiel Elliot put himself in stupid positions, and showed te world his judgement is horrible and now he wants more money and can’t get it because he can’t be marketed such as guys like Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Marcus Allen, or Beast Mode. This would be a non issue if Zeke wasn’t a typical D1 meathead who has felt self entitled ever since grade school because of what he can do with a football in his hands. Now it’s a make or break moment in his life and he’s choosing a losing strategy. Even if he gets paid by JJ, he will lose fans. Another sign of poor judgment. #21 should be so stacked with endorsements that he doesn’t care about his contract.He needs to man up, and take a reasonable offer before he ends up setting out of football for the next 4 years...

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Dre11 said:

A thousand yards, man GTFOH a thousand yards is putrid now. Almost every average back can get a thousand yards...lol you must be 80 years old.

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OmerV said:

I thought you were talking about his draft status? lol

In any case, I already told you I don't disagree that he has been problem child the last few years, but lets not act as if he would be the first key or even cornerstone player the NFL has seen that was a problem child. With the Cowboys Don Meredith, Bob Hayes, Harvey Martin, Michael Irvin, Erik Williams and countless other players in the 1990's who hung out at the infamous "white house" were some of the cornerstones of the team.

What about other teams? Was Lawrence Taylor a cornerstone of Giant Super Bowl teams? What about Randy Moss, Roethlesberger, Stabler, Riggins, Peterson …

It's a nice notion to think a team can only draft players with no blemishes and still compete, but that's not reality.

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OmerV said:

Well hell, anyone can carry the ball 20 times every once in awhile. That's not remotely a special quality in a RB. As for the rest of the NFL, it doesn't matter if they don't use RBs the same way Dallas does, if Dallas has a bigger commitment to the running game than other teams, they have to have the players for it.

Hell, let's go back to just agreeing to disagree. I know that won't sit well with you, so just tell me I'm wrong one more time and we can call it good at that.

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ABQCOWBOY said:

Come back to me when any of those guys ask you for 60 Mil, then we'll talk. Until then, they don't apply. None of those guys played in the Salary cap era so while it's all well and good that you try and use them as example, the fact of the matter is that they are not examples of this situation. You make financial commitment this great and they better be a face for your franchise. You can't just cut them and move on, like you could any of the former Cowboys you mentioned. As to other team's players, why would I care about other teams? More importantly, why do you?

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ABQCOWBOY said:

Kinda the point, isn't it? You don't need all world, you can use a competent back with skills, doesn't need to be an NFL Rushing Leader. I mean, at some point, you gotta pay attention here. I'm good with you not agreeing, it's not a make or break thing. You are wrong in how you view this, but agree to disagree is OK with me.

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Cowboysheelsreds053 said:

Without Zeke who is going to run the ball to keep pressure off of Dak? Morris? Forget it.

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ABQCOWBOY said:

On 239 carries with or 4.7 YPC. That's just under what Zeke did last year with 4.8 YPC. Only 9 backs in the entire NFL rushed for over a thousand yards last year, only AD was older then McFadden was then. What does that tell you, probably nothing but I'll go ahead and explain it to you. We don't need an all world back to be efficient in the run game. Used to be, all teams had a bellcow, but now, you do it by committee in most cases so no, you are completely wrong about most backs getting a thousand yards. In fact, you really haven't right about anything, so far as I can tell. So 8 or 80, does it really matter? You don't know what you are talking about here. Lastly, the GT@OH is against the forum rules and it will get you benched. I recommend you not use that but hey, maybe that's what you are trying to accomplish.

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OmerV said:

lol - well, I don't think anyone was getting paid $60MM back in the 1970's, but some were getting paid well by the standards of the time. Besides, you said problem players back then were key players. That was wrong.

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Reid1boys said:

they have him for 2 more years under contract. They dont need to pay him right now. Zeke has ZERO leverage IMO, regardless of all those saying Zeke has the leverage.

Now when his contract is coming up, and they dont sign him then.... then come back and talk to me about this topic. Until then, they are stupid if they do pay him.

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SeaTurtle1 said:

Take pressure off? I thought Dak wants more than 30 million a year?

He needs to play like it.

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