Stephen Jones: 'Damn Sure' Won't Be 'Market-Setter' for New Contracts

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Rayman70 said:
yep. that the rules of the rookie wage scale for everyone. The next cba is where they can work to change it.
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And yet Carson Wentz, drafted in Zeke's class, just got a new contract. Shrug.
Corso said:
I'm not mad at anybody.
Zeke and his agent feel his current contract is not fair, they're fighting it.
There are things in place to both help and hinder this process for both sides.

I agree with you - he is a good teammate and that may be what the Team is counting on, but he also listens to his agent who's job is to do nothing more, or less than protect and progress his wants and needs.
That is all he does.

I'm not stressing this. I have enough to stress about and I have seen so many stresses fall by the wayside as issues get figured out.
Waste of time.

Although I do grant that this does pass the time for the bored.
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Corso said:
huh...
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Yea, ppl don’t realize it but Millennials aren’t teenagers. They’re grown adults with families, but somehow we still get blamed for all the stuff GenZ does... Tide Pods...

it’s funny to think but in football term Millennials are the old guys on the team. Witten Romo Tyron Smith Sean Lee all millennials.
 
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Setackin said:
Yea, ppl don’t realize it but Millennials aren’t teenagers. They’re grown adults with families, but somehow we still get blamed for all the stuff GenZ does... Tide Pods...

it’s funny to think but in football term Millennials are the old guys on the team. Witten Romo Tyron Smith Sean Lee all millennials.
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Lol... Tide pods.
Right on.
 
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Rayman70 said:
low ball? ZEKE has an active contract HE SIGNED. Two years remaining. What is so difficult to grasp? If I were Zeke, I would get his butt here,play the season in good faith, THEN revisit a new deal next offseason.
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I see your point. Let's be real tho, Allen Hurns had a contract that wasn't honored...Sean Lee had to redo his deal. You're making an argument for a double standard against the guys who truly pay the price for this sport.
 
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I still don’t understand why some people are calling the owners greedy for not wanting to over pay for a player. The owners and players may both be greedy but it’s not like the owners are paying for the salaries of the players out of their own pocket so I don’t see the correlation. The owners have a salary cap to work with so just because they don’t want to pay for a certain players salary demands doesn’t make them greedy, they have to be financially responsible with the cap.

And please spare me “we can sign whoever we want, the cap really doesn’t exist” argument. It does exist and how quickly some of you forget the salary cap hell we recently got out of. Remember the days of people complaining about Jerry signing players to ridiculous contracts and how he needed to be more financially responsible? It wasn’t that long ago.

Am I missing something here?
 
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Mr_437 said:
I see your point. Let's be real tho, Allen Hurns had a contract that wasn't honored...Sean Lee had to redo his deal. You're making an argument for a double standard against the guys who truly pay the price for this sport.
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This is why you are seeing the amount guaranteed relative to the total salary rising.

The players are only guaranteed a portion of the contract they sign.
A lot of these extensions have outs after 2-3 years for the team.

Allen Hurns contract was a 1+1, which the team elected to pick up, probably because he couldn't pass a physical in march.
 
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aria said:
I still don’t understand why some people are calling the owners greedy for not wanting to over pay for a player. The owners and players may both be greedy but it’s not like the owners are paying for the salaries of the players out of their own pocket so I don’t see the correlation. The owners have a salary cap to work with so just because they don’t want to pay for a certain players salary demands doesn’t make them greedy, they have to be financially responsible with the cap.

And please spare me “we can sign whoever we want, the cap really doesn’t exist” argument. It does exist and how quickly some of you forget the salary cap hell we recently got out of. Remember the days of people complaining about Jerry signing players to ridiculous contracts and how he needed to be more financially responsible? It wasn’t that long ago.

Am I missing something here?
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The only reason we can argue the concept of "over pay" is because of Jerry's cap idea.
Otherwise, what do over pay mean?
 
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Corso said:
The only reason we can argue the concept of "over pay" is because of Jerry's cap idea.
Otherwise, what do over pay mean?
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True, it’s very subjective but I mean tying up a lot of money with certain players or positions that are seemingly expendable or replaceable. We could have 22 of the best players on both sides of the ball but at some point we can’t keep them all without seriously diluting the overall talent of the team.
 
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aria said:
True, it’s very subjective but I mean tying up a lot of money with certain players or positions that are seemingly expendable or replaceable. We could have 22 of the best players on both sides of the ball but at some point we can’t keep them all without seriously diluting the overall talent of the team.
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This is what the cap has done.
 
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