To those saying Dak should accept a $15 mil/season team friendly deal like Tom Brady

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blueblood70 said:
:hammer:yes and Bradys deal is technically just one year 23..welp thats the new market , correct last deal to Elite HOF QB reset the market :))the other 2 years are VOIDABLE and really arent worth the paper it was written on, this latest deal is year to year as TOM will decide how long he plays. Dak isnt there so if 23 is the new market TY TOm :)):popcorn:
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You're correct that there's no reason "market-setting" deals necessarily mean "highest in the market" - market prices can go down.

The GOAT rate is now $23M, the rest can settle somewhere below that. ;)
 
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OmerV said:
That's because you are looking at QBs with older contracts (and they don't have to be that old) as if their contracts were negotiated at the same time and under the same market conditions as those getting $30MM+. Quality QB's signing today, under today's market conditions, are getting $30MM+, and because QB's got $27-28MM a year ago (Garoppolo/Cousins), and $25-26MM 2-3 years ago doesn't change where things sit today.

Markets move on. They don't just stagnate when the best QBs sign a contract and not move until those same players sign their next contract.

If a house is worth $250K today, but a better house in the same neighborhood sold for $200K 2 years ago, you can try arguing with the seller that he should sell you the house for $180K because it isn't as good as the house that sold for $200K 2 years ago, but that's not reality. The market changed, and the price will be reflective of current market conditions.
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You do realize the bottom fell out of the housing market back in 2007.
Dak is worth what someone is willing to pay. I say let him test the FA market and see what another team is willing to give him with the option to match it! I think with more and more teams having decent QBs there would be less offers for Dak and that could play into favor for the Cowboys.
 
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Uhhh, you fail to understand what the contract actually means. Brady was already scheduled to get paid $15 million for this season. He just signed a 2 year / $70 million contract extension which pays him an average of $35 million/season in 2020 and 2021. They were able to make it a little more cap friendly by adding $8 million to this year's current contract, thus increasing this year's salary from $15 mil to $23 mil, which allowed the team to lower the hit next year from $35 mil to $30 mil...and 2021's cap hit from $35 mil to $32 mil.
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Still, he's the best QB, arguably, that has ever played. I mean, if somebody is going to make 30 plus, it should be him. Dak, he has nothing, as yet. I think that's what most folks are at issue with. I'm sure you probably know that.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
Still, he's the best QB, arguably, that has ever played. I mean, if somebody is going to make 30 plus, it should be him. Dak, he has nothing, as yet. I think that's what most folks are at issue with. I'm sure you probably know that.
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Dak has nothing? Dak hasn't earned getting paid top tier pay?
 
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America's Cowboy said:
Dak has nothing? Dak hasn't earned getting paid top tier pay?
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No. Not in my opinion. Not saying he hasn't earned a much better contract because I think he has but he hasn't earned top QB money for sure, IMO. Not even close.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
No. Not in my opinion. Not saying he hasn't earned a much better contract because I think he has but he hasn't earned top QB money for sure, IMO. Not even close.
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So Wince and several others get $25+ mil/year contract extensions, but you're saying Dak is not as good as they are and not worthy of a contract in value as theirs?
 
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I think if Jerry could get Dak to sign a 5 year contract for 25 mil a year everyone would fine with that. Maybe have incentives that enable him to make 28 mil
 
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America's Cowboy said:
So Wince and several others get $25+ mil/year contract extensions, but you're saying Dak is not as good as they are and not worthy of a contract in value as theirs?
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OK, lets don't start this again. I clearly said top QB money, does 25 a year sound like top QB money to you? If it does, then you have your answer. I would pay him 25 if that settled it but it won't, he wants 32 per.

And for the record, he isn't worth 25. Wentz isn't worth his money either but whatever. It's stupid to follow teams and try to say that because such and such did it, we should also do it. Do what's best for the organization, not what the idiot Eagles are doing.
 
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Hadenough said:
It seems like as time goes on the numbers are less shocking! But that's a good way of thinking, slightly more than Wentz!
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I know what your saying. I think if they did the deal earlier he could have been had for 25-28. Then it went to almost 30. Then wentz and Wilson gets 32 and 34.. All the sudden Daks agent starts at Wilson money. He knows he won’t get that but wants as much as wentz.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
OK, lets don't start this again. I clearly said top QB money, does 25 a year sound like top QB money to you? If it does, then you have your answer. I would pay him 25 if that settled it but it won't, he wants 32 per.

And for the record, he isn't worth 25. Wentz isn't worth his money either but whatever. It's stupid to follow teams and try to say that because such and such did it, we should also do it. Do what's best for the organization, not what the idiot Eagles are doing.
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Dak had the highest QBR rating throughout the playoffs. In other words, he performed the best when it mattered the most. He also finished the regular season for a 96.9 passer rating considering half of the season he played behind an injured Oline (where he was sacked 58 times), no #1 WR talent, no #1 TE talent, where the Oline Coach was replaced halfway through the season and the O-Coordinator was fired by the end of the season, yet he almost passed for 3,900 yards with 23 TDs and only 8 INTs. Are you still going to say he's not worth getting paid what the market is saying he is worth?
 
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