Dak and Zeke dont care about championships

GenoT · Aug 13, 2019

superonyx said:
Now we have these old dudes attacking our own players because the players
want to paid at the level of their production and talent.

“Get off our lawn!” — signed, These Old Dudes

John813 · Aug 13, 2019

PJTHEDOORS said:
TSmith's deal at the time was less?

The nflpa was upset at him iirc .

Martin however was made the highest paid guard.

I know T-Fred was made the highest paid center at the time of his extension .

StuckMojo · Aug 13, 2019

superonyx said:
This is a stupid thread.
If Zeke became the highest paid RB in nfl history today he would still make less than guys named Xavien Howard and Sammy Watkins.

He would make less than Jason Pierre Paul.

Now we have these old dudes attacking our own players because the players
want to paid at the level of their production and talent.

Zeke should be paid like a top 3 RB, Dak does not need to be paid like a top 5 QB

TheCount · Aug 13, 2019

lol, if you think Dak and Zeke don't care about championships because they want a big check, I've got some news for you about how the NFL works.

Melonfeud · Aug 13, 2019

PJTHEDOORS said:
Wrong. My life choices aren't about gaining wealth.

HaHaHa ,,,well then, I'll render you out with the obligatory 'copy' ,,,while uploading "indigent, destitute, parents basement dweller" Into yer' updated profile :thumbup:

JBS · Aug 13, 2019

Z Martin doesn't care about championships guys

Melonfeud · Aug 13, 2019

GenoT said:
“Get off our lawn!” — signed, These Old Dudes

",,,er,,,and pull them dandylion greens outta' yer pockets& put'em back,,,cuz' I'd done seen you pluckin' 'em up,afore you leave,too!"

Nav22 · Aug 13, 2019

“Any player who doesn’t volunteer to play for the minimum is evil. I hate them all.

Every penny more than the minimum they make is another tear down my jealous cheek.

And to make matters worse, I’m fat.”

GenoT · Aug 13, 2019

PJTHEDOORS said:
My life choices aren't about gaining wealth.

I used to put that on my job resume. Got hired a lot.

DandyDon52 · Aug 13, 2019

The Natural said:
Neither do dumb & dumber in the front office. If they did, Garrett would have gotten the boot a long time ago.

best post in the thread ! :thumbup:

JoeKing · Aug 13, 2019

Is it still okay to like Amari Cooper? He's expecting a big raise too but he's being cool about it.

Jake · Aug 13, 2019

superonyx said:
This is a stupid thread.
If Zeke became the highest paid RB in nfl history today he would still make less than guys named Xavien Howard and Sammy Watkins.

He would make less than Jason Pierre Paul.

Now we have these old dudes attacking our own players because the players
want to paid at the level of their production and talent.

Not to mention the historic revenues being made by the NFL.

Players didn't ask for a cap, the billionaire owners wanted it. Now some expect the players to "take one for the team" because owners can't manage it? That's on the owners, not the players.

Vtwin · Aug 13, 2019

Same thought crossed my mind last night.

When you get into the territory of what these guys are going to get I'd have a hard time prioritizing an extra few mil over the team goal of bringing that trophy home for the fans. I don't expect them to not get theirs. Just keep the big picture front and center and understand that when it's all said and done a championship or two is going to be a much better legacy than being the highest paid at your position for a season.

PJTHEDOORS · Aug 13, 2019

Melonfeud said:
HaHaHa ,,,well then, I'll render you out with the obligatory 'copy' ,,,while uploading "indigent, destitute, parents basement dweller" Into yer' updated profile

Amazing that one can be happy without greed isn't it?

DandyDon52 · Aug 13, 2019

waldoputty said:
What bothers all of us is their contract demands tell us about their desire for a championship, or lack thereof.
They just want to grab every dollar even though they know there is a cap limit.
They know their demands really hurt the chances of a championship because there is a limit to what tricks can be played with the cap.

Well if you were a player like them, would you take less..... way less to win a SB, if your playing for garrett and the jones boys??
I mean the chances of garrett and this FO guiding the team to the SB are slim to none. I would take the money.

atlantacowboy · Aug 13, 2019

waldoputty said:
What bothers all of us is their contract demands tell us about their desire for a championship, or lack thereof.
They just want to grab every dollar even though they know there is a cap limit.
They know their demands really hurt the chances of a championship because there is a limit to what tricks can be played with the cap.

They want to get paid what they think they are worth. In Zeke's case, he is worth the money b/c he is the best rb in the NFL. Dak's demand to be the highest paid QB in NFL history is ludicrous. I could make a pretty good case that he's not even top 15.

Vtwin · Aug 13, 2019

Jake said:
Not to mention the historic revenues being made by the NFL.

Players didn't ask for a cap, the billionaire owners wanted it. Now some expect the players to "take one for the team" because owners can't manage it? That's on the owners, not the players.

For an old guy like me it's hard to understand how earning 25 mill a season, 50 mil guaranteed or so is taking one for the team.

Needing to make more than the other guy or be the highest paid is pure ego driven greed.

superonyx · Aug 13, 2019

StuckMojo said:
Zeke should be paid like a top 3 RB, Dak does not need to be paid like a top 5 QB

Anyone who has any negotiation ability doesnt start of the negotiations by coming in weak and cutting yourself down with a low ask.
Dak isnt even the one negotiating his deal. He is just playing football and letting the agents do their jobs.

Answer me this. If Dak came to you and said "hey StuckMojo I will give you 6 percent of my salary if you negotiate a new deal for me".
Would you come to shrewd businessmen and devalue your client by asking for a modest salary? I would hope not. Do you just walk onto a car lot and pay whatever is on the sticker and tell the salesmen "you are charging a fair price"? I hope not. You try to start in a position where even when you lose you win.

Is Dak holding out?

Pantone282C · Aug 13, 2019

Tangle_Foot said:
It's a good thing Tank took less and didn't delay his surgery, now there's a player that puts team first

StuckMojo · Aug 13, 2019

superonyx said:
Anyone who has any negotiation ability doesnt start of the negotiations by coming in weak and cutting yourself down with a low ask.
Dak isnt even the one negotiating his deal. He is just playing football and letting the agents do their jobs.

Answer me this. If Dak came to you and said "hey StuckMojo I will give you 6 percent of my salary if you negotiate a new deal for me".
Would you come to shrewd businessmen and devalue your client by asking for a modest salary? I would hope not. Do you just walk onto a car lot and pay whatever is on the sticker and tell the salesmen "you are charging a fair price"? I hope not. You try to start in a position where even when you lose you win.

Is Dak holding out?

I understand negotiations and i am sure his agent is getting more than 6%. Don't care if he is holding out or not, he doesn't deserve top 5 QB pay. I will clarify to say Zeke deserves top 5 pay but it should come after this season. We can not have these top heavy contracts to where we can't build a team around them.

This old dude wouldn't care if Dak made a $100 million a year if there was no salary cap, but there is one and I have seen us in salary cap hell.

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