Thirty Seasons Under the Joneses

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In a 32 year span the average NFL team will:

Win 8 division titles

Go to the playoffs 12 of those seasons

Play in 4 conference championship games

Win 2 conference championships

Play in 2 Super Bowls

Win 1 Super Bowl

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Since Jerry Jones has purchased the team the Cowboys have:

Won their division 11 times.

Gone to the playoffs 15 times

Played in four conference championships

Won three NFC championships

Played in three Super Bowls

Won 3 championships.

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They still have two more seasons to complete the 32 years averages.

I am not a big Jerry Jones fan. However, in all fairness, it cannot he said that his tenure as owner was unsuccessful. On the contrary, the Cowboys have been one of the more successful franchises during that period.

With that said, fans typically have the attitude expressed by a Janet Jackson song.....

“What have you done for me lately?”

These next two seasons close a window, not for the Cowboys, but, I suspect, for Jerry himself. This is why I believe these next two seasons are very special to him. I don’t know how this specifically translates to contracts and acquiring more talent but don’t rule out some very imaginative opportunities.
that's the problem with averages...they hide a lot of warts...

lets not forget that we won the superbowls in the first 6 years....

the past 24 years have been futile and below average....

so what's the average for teams in a 25 year span?
 

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In a 32 year span the average NFL team will:

Win 8 division titles

Go to the playoffs 12 of those seasons

Play in 4 conference championship games

Win 2 conference championships

Play in 2 Super Bowls

Win 1 Super Bowl

________________________

Since Jerry Jones has purchased the team the Cowboys have:

Won their division 11 times.

Gone to the playoffs 15 times

Played in four conference championships

Won three NFC championships

Played in three Super Bowls

Won 3 championships.

________________________________

They still have two more seasons to complete the 32 years averages.

I am not a big Jerry Jones fan. However, in all fairness, it cannot he said that his tenure as owner was unsuccessful. On the contrary, the Cowboys have been one of the more successful franchises during that period.

With that said, fans typically have the attitude expressed by a Janet Jackson song.....

“What have you done for me lately?”

These next two seasons close a window, not for the Cowboys, but, I suspect, for Jerry himself. This is why I believe these next two seasons are very special to him. I don’t know how this specifically translates to contracts and acquiring more talent but don’t rule out some very imaginative opportunities.

Thank you for your summary. This is the dictionary definition of how you can manipulate stats to show anything you like. Whether is is pro climate change or against climate change, or fill in the blank topic.
Jerry Jones post Jimmy Johnson era has been an unmitigated disaster for the Cowboys organization.
1967-1989- 23 Years, Cowboys made 5 SB's, so the Cowboys played in one out of every 5.
If you go from 1967-1995 Cowboys played in 8 of the 30 SB's
If you look at the next 23 SB's the Cowboys have not even been close, not one championship game appearance.
You can slice and dice it anyway you want, Jerry Jones has been an abject failure when it comes to football operations. Firing JJ was the worst move he ever made. His ego ruined this franchise after 1993 and it still haunts us till this day. Jerry has no motivation to win a SB. He is fat and happy with the first three he won. There is an economic saying "Don't listen to what people say but watch what they do". He is a HOF'er somehow, not because of his football acumen but how he has helped to grow football with his independent marketing deals, his involvement with TV contracts. To me all that stuff is great. I think Jerry was very lucky to buy the Cowboys when he did as the NFL has just been on such a remarkable growth curve since that time. TV rights contracts have grown immensely. All the NFL owners have made money hand over first
If Jerry didnt have such a big head & ego, he could easily make the Cowboys the best team on the field. There is no salary cap on coaches front office people, analytics guys, etc. Jerry only wants to win if the world sees that his big brain was involved in making it happen. He stated in the post 1993 SB celebration that 500 coaches could take the Cowboys to a SB, so he hired the worst coach possible in Switzer and won a SB with Jimmy's team. Every football person in the world knew that was Jimmy's team so please don't give me Jerry won a title w/o Jimmy.

I have been a life long Cowboy fan who grew in the DC metro area, and am in my early very early 40's, so I remember watching the Cowboys fade in the late 80's.. particularly 87-89. Landry had to go and the team had no talent. Growing up in the DC area was no treat for Cowboys fans as the Skins were in their heyday.
 

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In a 32 year span the average NFL team will:

Win 8 division titles

Go to the playoffs 12 of those seasons

Play in 4 conference championship games

Win 2 conference championships

Play in 2 Super Bowls

Win 1 Super Bowl

________________________

Since Jerry Jones has purchased the team the Cowboys have:

Won their division 11 times.

Gone to the playoffs 15 times

Played in four conference championships

Won three NFC championships

Played in three Super Bowls

Won 3 championships.

________________________________

They still have two more seasons to complete the 32 years averages.

I am not a big Jerry Jones fan. However, in all fairness, it cannot he said that his tenure as owner was unsuccessful. On the contrary, the Cowboys have been one of the more successful franchises during that period.

With that said, fans typically have the attitude expressed by a Janet Jackson song.....

“What have you done for me lately?”

These next two seasons close a window, not for the Cowboys, but, I suspect, for Jerry himself. This is why I believe these next two seasons are very special to him. I don’t know how this specifically translates to contracts and acquiring more talent but don’t rule out some very imaginative opportunities.

The way you are contorting to prop up someone you’re “not a fan of” your name should be “Elasticman” not “Plasticman”
 

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that's the problem with averages...they hide a lot of warts...

lets not forget that we won the superbowls in the first 6 years....

the past 24 years have been futile and below average....

so what's the average for teams in a 25 year span?

Oh he’s not “forgetting “ he’s just trying to distract you and change the narrative so you won’t be as nauseated by the stench of mediocrity and nepotism coming from this FO
 

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Thank you for your summary. This is the dictionary definition of how you can manipulate stats to show anything you like. Whether is is pro climate change or against climate change, or fill in the blank topic.
Jerry Jones post Jimmy Johnson era has been an unmitigated disaster for the Cowboys organization.
1967-1989- 23 Years, Cowboys made 5 SB's, so the Cowboys played in one out of every 5.
If you go from 1967-1995 Cowboys played in 8 of the 30 SB's
If you look at the next 23 SB's the Cowboys have not even been close, not one championship game appearance.
You can slice and dice it anyway you want, Jerry Jones has been an abject failure when it comes to football operations. Firing JJ was the worst move he ever made. His ego ruined this franchise after 1993 and it still haunts us till this day. Jerry has no motivation to win a SB. He is fat and happy with the first three he won. There is an economic saying "Don't listen to what people say but watch what they do". He is a HOF'er somehow, not because of his football acumen but how he has helped to grow football with his independent marketing deals, his involvement with TV contracts. To me all that stuff is great. I think Jerry was very lucky to buy the Cowboys when he did as the NFL has just been on such a remarkable growth curve since that time. TV rights contracts have grown immensely. All the NFL owners have made money hand over first
If Jerry didnt have such a big head & ego, he could easily make the Cowboys the best team on the field. There is no salary cap on coaches front office people, analytics guys, etc. Jerry only wants to win if the world sees that his big brain was involved in making it happen. He stated in the post 1993 SB celebration that 500 coaches could take the Cowboys to a SB, so he hired the worst coach possible in Switzer and won a SB with Jimmy's team. Every football person in the world knew that was Jimmy's team so please don't give me Jerry won a title w/o Jimmy.

I have been a life long Cowboy fan who grew in the DC metro area, and am in my early very early 40's, so I remember watching the Cowboys fade in the late 80's.. particularly 87-89. Landry had to go and the team had no talent. Growing up in the DC area was no treat for Cowboys fans as the Skins were in their heyday.
:hammer::thumbup::clap::yourock::bow:
 

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I think it is the opposite, real fans want a competitive team and to make the playoffs, and that is plenty of fun.
I really dont care about the SB it is over rated hype machine.
However it would be nice to get to a SB once ever 10 years.

Thats what I meant by enjoying the ride. Last year was a blast. That doesn't mean it didn't end in disappointment. Everyone hopes for a superbowl, its certainly not expected though.
 

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If Jerry didnt have such a big head & ego, he could easily make the Cowboys the best team on the field. There is no salary cap on coaches front office people, analytics guys, etc. Jerry only wants to win if the world sees that his big brain was involved in making it happen. He stated in the post 1993 SB celebration that 500 coaches could take the Cowboys to a SB, so he hired the worst coach possible in Switzer and won a SB with Jimmy's team. Every football person in the world knew that was Jimmy's team so please don't give me Jerry won a title w/o Jimmy.

:hammer::clap:
 

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32 year average seems like an an awfully suspicious metric.

The OP (whom I generally like and often agree with, but not here, not this time) selected a 32-year span because there are 32 NFL teams. Hence, by "average," that amounts to one SB win per team over a 32-year span. Since 64 teams must play in those 32 Super Bowls, that amounts to two SB appearances per team, on average, over the course of 32 years. Since there are 32 CCGs in each conference with two teams participating in each among 16 teams per conference, that amounts to four NFC or AFC championship game appearances per team over a 32-year span. The same assumptions and process apply to division titles and playoff appearances.

When one considers the Dallas Cowboys appeared in 8 of the first 30 SBs, winning 5 of them, and have not appeared in any in the past 23 years it should not make any Cowboys fan feel comfortable or appreciative for what JJ has done (save for the sheer genius of hiring Jimmy Johnson as HC) but instead should make us all the more frustrated. I think whatever the OP hoped to accomplish here, for the most part, I think he succeeded in producing just the opposite.

Had the Cowboys, from 1995 to the present, continued the team legacy "average" of one SB appearance every 0.267 years and one SB victory every 0.167 years from SBI to SBXXX, Valley Ranch's trophy case would now house not 5 but 9 Lombardi's, and the Cowboys would not be 5-3 in SBs but 9-5, or three ahead of the dreaded Steelers and now, the Patriots.

Admittedly, that is asking a lot from any franchise (other than the Yankees), to maintain such excellence over not a decade but five, but for the first 30 years of the SB era, Cowboys fans were spoiled. Dallas fielded championship caliber teams in the mid to late 60s, throughout the 70s, in the early 80s and for a brief stretch in the 90s. It has been nearly a quarter-century long dry spell since 1995.

No, the Cowboys have not been the Lions or Browns, but they have been a huge disappointment, and far less successful than the Steelers who've won two SBs since the Cowboys last reached a conference championship game.
 

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The OP (whom I generally like and often agree with, but not here, not this time) selected a 32-year span because there are 32 NFL teams. Hence, by "average," that amounts to one SB win per team over a 32-year span. Since 64 teams must play in those 32 Super Bowls, that amounts to two SB appearances per team, on average, over the course of 32 years. Since there are 32 CCGs in each conference with two teams participating in each among 16 teams per conference, that amounts to four NFC or AFC championship game appearances per team over a 32-year span. The same assumptions and process apply to division titles and playoff appearances.

When one considers the Dallas Cowboys appeared in 8 of the first 30 SBs, winning 5 of them, and have not appeared in any in the past 23 years it should not make any Cowboys fan feel comfortable or appreciative for what JJ has done (save for the sheer genius of hiring Jimmy Johnson as HC) but instead should make us all the more frustrated. I think whatever the OP hoped to accomplish here, for the most part, I think he succeeded in producing just the opposite.

Had the Cowboys, from 1995 to the present, continued the team legacy "average" of one SB appearance every 0.267 years and one SB victory every 0.167 years from SBI to SBXXX, Valley Ranch's trophy case would now house not 5 but 9 Lombardi's, and the Cowboys would not be 5-3 in SBs but 9-5, or three ahead of the dreaded Steelers and now, the Patriots.

Admittedly, that is asking a lot from any franchise (other than the Yankees), to maintain such excellence over not a decade but five, but for the first 30 years of the SB era, Cowboys fans were spoiled. Dallas fielded championship caliber teams in the mid to late 60s, throughout the 70s, in the early 80s and for a brief stretch in the 90s. It has been nearly a quarter-century long dry spell since 1995.

No, the Cowboys have not been the Lions or Browns, but they have been a huge disappointment, and far less successful than the Steelers who've won two SBs since the Cowboys last reached a conference championship game.

That the Bucs and Jets have more playoff wins over the last 20 years is depressing.
 

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In a 32 year span the average NFL team will:

Win 8 division titles

Go to the playoffs 12 of those seasons

Play in 4 conference championship games

Win 2 conference championships

Play in 2 Super Bowls

Win 1 Super Bowl

________________________

Since Jerry Jones has purchased the team the Cowboys have:

Won their division 11 times.

Gone to the playoffs 15 times

Played in four conference championships

Won three NFC championships

Played in three Super Bowls

Won 3 championships.

________________________________

They still have two more seasons to complete the 32 years averages.

I am not a big Jerry Jones fan. However, in all fairness, it cannot he said that his tenure as owner was unsuccessful. On the contrary, the Cowboys have been one of the more successful franchises during that period.

With that said, fans typically have the attitude expressed by a Janet Jackson song.....

“What have you done for me lately?”

These next two seasons close a window, not for the Cowboys, but, I suspect, for Jerry himself. This is why I believe these next two seasons are very special to him. I don’t know how this specifically translates to contracts and acquiring more talent but don’t rule out some very imaginative opportunities.
thats odd the avegae team what does that rally mean, not many new teams have been making it to the SB in 32 years twice..weve done all the other stuff..

Note Philly jjst won THEIR 1ST SB EVER IN 60YRS IN EXISTENCE..So????????????hmm..there are teams to never even make a sb EVER or have not won a SB EVER..

this is bunch of hooha anything to knock the Jones family even though they won 3 Sbs in the same amount of time the OTHER Ownership only won 2..mic drop

POINT? just poop stirring we get it..sure I wished we have been to few more since 1997 but we have not but we for sure are not the browns ans lions not even cloe as some real bright person said..reality check we are 2nd in wins in the nfl the last 5yrs and the last decade in all the nfl 6 in wins.. Brown im chuckling hard..titans and others etc bottom 16 teams we are NOT part of at all not in the same zip code.
 

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Thank you for your summary. This is the dictionary definition of how you can manipulate stats to show anything you like. Whether is is pro climate change or against climate change, or fill in the blank topic.
Jerry Jones post Jimmy Johnson era has been an unmitigated disaster for the Cowboys organization.
1967-1989- 23 Years, Cowboys made 5 SB's, so the Cowboys played in one out of every 5.
If you go from 1967-1995 Cowboys played in 8 of the 30 SB's
If you look at the next 23 SB's the Cowboys have not even been close, not one championship game appearance.
You can slice and dice it anyway you want, Jerry Jones has been an abject failure when it comes to football operations. Firing JJ was the worst move he ever made. His ego ruined this franchise after 1993 and it still haunts us till this day. Jerry has no motivation to win a SB. He is fat and happy with the first three he won. There is an economic saying "Don't listen to what people say but watch what they do". He is a HOF'er somehow, not because of his football acumen but how he has helped to grow football with his independent marketing deals, his involvement with TV contracts. To me all that stuff is great. I think Jerry was very lucky to buy the Cowboys when he did as the NFL has just been on such a remarkable growth curve since that time. TV rights contracts have grown immensely. All the NFL owners have made money hand over first
If Jerry didnt have such a big head & ego, he could easily make the Cowboys the best team on the field. There is no salary cap on coaches front office people, analytics guys, etc. Jerry only wants to win if the world sees that his big brain was involved in making it happen. He stated in the post 1993 SB celebration that 500 coaches could take the Cowboys to a SB, so he hired the worst coach possible in Switzer and won a SB with Jimmy's team. Every football person in the world knew that was Jimmy's team so please don't give me Jerry won a title w/o Jimmy.

I have been a life long Cowboy fan who grew in the DC metro area, and am in my early very early 40's, so I remember watching the Cowboys fade in the late 80's.. particularly 87-89. Landry had to go and the team had no talent. Growing up in the DC area was no treat for Cowboys fans as the Skins were in their heyday.
if Jerry didnt seek out and convince and hire jimmy to come here, bring the money and fire none of this ever happened.. next

oh and Jimmy wasn't getting along with Jerry and vice versa its a fact they disclosed years later their EGOS plural got in the way of the relationship.. Jimmy did nothing with the dolphins when he left. left there rather quickly.hes like parcels in many ways does some great stuff gets bored needs a new challenge and moves on..
 

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Any self respecting sports organization that had the same general manager using the same philosophy that has produced 4 wild card round playoff wins in 24 years would have long ago made major changes.

Jerry Jones qualified to become the Cowboys GM the second his check to buy the team in 1989 cleared the bank. No other team in this league would hire him to run their football operations. He is a great salesman and great businessman. But he is a terrible GM. His record since the cap era started and Jimmy left speaks for itself. Sure he’s hired Will McClay which has helped the drafts a bunch. But have we forgotten who he continues to employ at HC?

I long ago stopped pretending this Emperor is clothed. Jerry Jones has been naked as a GM since he foolishly decided that having a great HC working for him was somehow a threat to his coveted glory. What’s so stupid about that thinking is Jerry fails to realize that he would receive loads of credit for hiring a top notch HC to win here. It’s so frustrating.
 
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