Just a What If. 2016

408Cowboy · Aug 16, 2019

Super_Kazuya said:
I mean the question still applies to his whole career as well. Romo was an excellent playoff performer overall and the whole “big game failures” was a myth based on mostly regular season games that meant very little in the grand scheme of things. There isn’t really any logic in saying that a QB who finished 4th in NFL history in passer rating couldn’t get “over the hump” in the right situation, but say, Trent Dilfer can just because. That pretty much does put you in the group of those disrespecting Romo and just wanting to be done with it all and throw out the baby with the bath water.

I never said anything about Dilfer. Given the teams Romo had he along with them never got over it. It's that simple.

Sevenup3000 · Aug 16, 2019

Super_Kazuya said:
I’ll say it again and maybe you’ll listen this time. The Cowboys were 2-7 when Romo returned from injury.
I’ll also say, no team in NFL history has ever made the playoffs from that start.
I’ll also say that not only has no team ever started 2-7 and won the 9 games needed to win the NFC East that year, only two 2-7 teams have ever even made it to 8-8.
And finally I will also say: it’s time for you to go crawl back under your rock...

In other words, Tony Romo, as soon as he was cleared to play...with a chance to win the East and the Superbowl, proceeded to get himself injured and played altogether horribly in 2015.

He FAILED. Anyway you want to spin it...Romo FAILED to save the 2015 season.

BTW, in 2015 the Cowboys were not eliminated from playoff contention until AFTER our week 15 loss to the Jets. Because of how god-awful the East was, at 3-7, the Cowboys was very much in contention when Romo step onto the field on Thanksgiving Day.

Maybe if Tony Romo would have SAVED the 2015 season, the powers-that-be would have been more inclined to have him "save" the 2016 from Dak Prescott as soon as he was cleared to play. But given what had JUST HAPPENED one year earlier, AND the fact that 2016 was already being SAVED by Dak Prescott, Romo did not get the opportunity to FAIL to "save" another season.

Super_Kazuya · Aug 16, 2019

Sevenup3000 said:
In other words, Tony Romo, as soon as he was cleared to play...with a chance to win the East and the Superbowl, proceeded to get himself injured and played altogether horribly in 2015.

He FAILED. Anyway you want to spin it...Romo FAILED to save the 2015 season.

BTW, in 2015 the Cowboys were not eliminated from playoff contention until AFTER our week 15 loss to the Jets. Because of how god-awful the East was, at 3-7, the Cowboys was very much in contention when Romo step onto the field on Thanksgiving Day.

Maybe if Tony Romo would have SAVED the 2015 season, the powers-that-be would have been more inclined to have him "save" the 2016 from Dak Prescott as soon as he was cleared to play. But given what had JUST HAPPENED one year earlier, AND the fact that 2016 was already being SAVED by Dak Prescott, Romo did get the opportunity to FAIL to "save" another season.

lol... tell a troll, “no 2-7 team has ever made the playoffs.”
Troll response, “Anyway you want to spin it...”

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

JoeKing said:
You are just living in a fantasy land. Dak played well against the Packers and Tony would have done no better.

I was in favor of keeping the train going, but I think you're wrong about that game. We started slow that game, I don't think that happens with Romo and his experience. I believe Romo would've shredded Green bay secondary early and often .

Super_Kazuya · Aug 16, 2019

Sevenup3000 said:
In other words, Tony Romo, as soon as he was cleared to play...with a chance to win the East and the Superbowl, proceeded to get himself injured and played altogether horribly in 2015.

He FAILED. Anyway you want to spin it...Romo FAILED to save the 2015 season.

BTW, in 2015 the Cowboys were not eliminated from playoff contention until AFTER our week 15 loss to the Jets. Because of how god-awful the East was, at 3-7, the Cowboys was very much in contention when Romo step onto the field on Thanksgiving Day.

Maybe if Tony Romo would have SAVED the 2015 season, the powers-that-be would have been more inclined to have him "save" the 2016 from Dak Prescott as soon as he was cleared to play. But given what had JUST HAPPENED one year earlier, AND the fact that 2016 was already being SAVED by Dak Prescott, Romo did not get the opportunity to FAIL to "save" another season.

I am aware that at 2-7 the Cowboys were still alive... because of the division’s slow start, I think the leader was only 4-5 at that point. However as I cautioned at the time, at some point that was going to even out and one of the other three teams would start winning some games. Sure enough the Commanders won 5 of their last 6 to get to 9-7... obviously not a great division winning record, but common enough (there were actually two 9-7 division winners that year).
What you are clearly too dim to see is that if you start 2-7, winning the division solely on the strength of your own play is out of your control. Not only do you have to win basically every single one of your games, but the other teams also have to play poorly... which history overwhelmingly says will not happen.

RustyBourneHorse · Aug 16, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
But we did see Dak go into GB that same year and beat them. I can't recall anytime Romo did.

I think he did it in 2008 with Aaron in his first season as the full time starter there.

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

starfan1 said:
I do recall that TD and my message is the same tony at that point is an injury waiting to happen he only played 1 series if I recall and he played well but being exposed for an entire game I still unsure he stays healthy

Having said that if he could of the cowboys chances increase but the pack would still have found a way to win imo.

The loss was not in Dak but the defense

No it wasn't Dak fault. But we got of to an awfully slow start where I think experience was a factor early. Would we have started that slow with Tony? Would Tony being a better passer and experience with Zeke and Dez be too much for Packers injured sexondary?

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

Sevenup3000 said:
In other words, Tony Romo, as soon as he was cleared to play...with a chance to win the East and the Superbowl, proceeded to get himself injured and played altogether horribly in 2015.

He FAILED. Anyway you want to spin it...Romo FAILED to save the 2015 season.

BTW, in 2015 the Cowboys were not eliminated from playoff contention until AFTER our week 15 loss to the Jets. Because of how god-awful the East was, at 3-7, the Cowboys was very much in contention when Romo step onto the field on Thanksgiving Day.

Maybe if Tony Romo would have SAVED the 2015 season, the powers-that-be would have been more inclined to have him "save" the 2016 from Dak Prescott as soon as he was cleared to play. But given what had JUST HAPPENED one year earlier, AND the fact that 2016 was already being SAVED by Dak Prescott, Romo did not get the opportunity to FAIL to "save" another season.

Remember Dez was hurt as well.

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
I don't think Romo would have played better. Dak had over 300 yards and 3 TDs that game and no picks.

He did have a pick. He threw a red zone pick on a terrible throw. We also started terribly slow that game. Which I think was due to experience . Would that have been the case with Tony. I don't believe so.

Jake · Aug 16, 2019

Dre11 said:
I was in favor of keeping the train going, but I think you're wrong about that game. We started slow that game, I don't think that happens with Romo and his experience. I believe Romo would've shredded Green bay secondary early and often .

With the way the Cowboys defense was playing he would've needed a monster game. It's easy to say he would've done it, but he never did it any other time.

31 points should be plenty to win a home playoff game, but the defense failed us again.

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

Jake said:
With the way the Cowboys defense was playing he would've needed a monster game. It's easy to say he would've done it, but he never did it any other time.

31 points should be plenty to win a home playoff game, but the defense failed us again.

Are you serious. Anybody with a shade of sense knew Romo was a better qb and more experienced than Dak. We left points on the field a Dak rookie mistake that turned into a pick 6 in the red zone. Are you seriously saying Romo wasn't capable of a monster game with a runner like Zeke...lol man please.

DallasEast · Aug 16, 2019

408Cowboy said:
No. You specified that group didn't respect Romo. That just isn't the case for everybody that was ready to move on. I appreciate what Romo did for the franchise. He had games that we're flat out brilliant throughout his career. He also had duds from time to time. I firmly believe that we witnessed his best and that he had his opportunities that weren't taken for whatever reason. He showed he couldn't get over the hump and that was enough for me. There is absolutely nothing about not respecting him in my opinion as you stated.

I will agree that I should stand partially corrected. What you had quoted in bold and replied to earlier, which was:

They simply wanted Romo gone since they had zero respect for him.

--was an incomplete, quickly typed summation. Usually I am more longwinded. So I was 100% wrong in my previous reply based on what I typed. My apologies.

However, what I meant to type, and mistakenly based my reply upon, should have been more concise. If there was an available mulligan, I would re-phrase, stating:

They simply wanted Romo gone since they no longer respected his personal motivation, health, abilities and/or skills as an unquestionable starting NFL quarterback enough to warrant his reinstatement into the starting lineup.

That is what I would say if I had a do over. I believe I am 100% correct. There will be (more) disagreement. And that is okay.

DallasEast · Aug 16, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
If Garrett doesn't blow the clock management and play calling down the stretch of the GB playoff game, the Cowboys are in the NFC championship against the Falcons with the rookie Dak at QB.

NFC championship game does not equal Super Bowl appearance and/or victory. It would have been exciting seeing Prescott have another opportunity to make the final level as a rookie quarterback but the odds were still very much against him facing off against Brady and the Patriots as a rookie quarterback.

408Cowboy · Aug 16, 2019

Dre11 said:
Are you serious. Anybody with a shade of sense knew Romo was a better qb and more experienced than Dak. We left points on the field a Dak rookie mistake that turned into a pick 6 in the red zone. Are you seriously saying Romo wasn't capable of a monster game with a runner like Zeke...lol man please.

Dak isn't the only QB to leave points on the field. He also isn't the only one to ever throw a pick 6 that was telegraphed. It doesn't take anything away from what Romo accomplished to say he had his opportunities and it's time to move on.

HungryLion · Aug 16, 2019

408Cowboy said:
Dak isn't the only QB to leave points on the field. He also isn't the only one to ever throw a pick 6 that was telegraphed. It doesn't take anything away from what Romo accomplished to say he had his opportunities and it's time to move on.

It wasn’t a pick 6 either.

Though it was in the redzone. So it definitely hurt. Of course as you said. Certainly no guarantees Romo doesn’t throw a pick either.

408Cowboy · Aug 16, 2019

DallasEast said:
I will agree that I should stand partially corrected. What you had quoted in bold and replied to earlier, which was:

They simply wanted Romo gone since they had zero respect for him.

--was an incomplete, quickly typed summation. Usually I am more longwinded. So I was 100% wrong in my previous reply based on what I typed. My apologies.

However, what I meant to type, and mistakenly based my reply upon, should have been more concise. If there was an available mulligan, I would re-phrase, stating:

They simply wanted Romo gone since they no longer respected his personal motivation, health, abilities and/or skills as an unquestionable starting NFL quarterback enough to warrant his reinstatement into the starting lineup.

That is what I would say if I had a do over. I believe I am 100% correct. There will be (more) disagreement. And that is okay.

I have no problem with a good reiteration. If you think it's in someway disrespectful to say he had his shots and it's time to move on then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

StarBoyz83 · Aug 16, 2019

Romo should've got his team back but it's in the past now. For sure wouldve been the best team Romo had around him though. Never really had a solid team around him aside from maybe 2 seasons.

Zordon · Aug 16, 2019

I didn't have an issue with Dak in that playoff game. It was the coaching and refs that screwed us. We went away from Zeke at crucial times in that game.

Dre11 · Aug 16, 2019

408Cowboy said:
Dak isn't the only QB to leave points on the field. He also isn't the only one to ever throw a pick 6 that was telegraphed. It doesn't take anything away from what Romo accomplished to say he had his opportunities and it's time to move on.

Boy, we can tell who missed the point of the thread. It isn't about moving on. Everybody knows that it's in the past. The man just asked a hypothetical. If you didn't have anything to add to the thread why post.

CowboyRoy · Aug 16, 2019

DallasEast said:
NFC championship game does not equal Super Bowl appearance and/or victory. It would have been exciting seeing Prescott have another opportunity to make the final level as a rookie quarterback but the odds were still very much against him facing off against Brady and the Patriots as a rookie quarterback.

No doubt. They probably lose against the Falcons and certainly against Brady.

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