Garrett Failed So Pay All of the Play Makers

Blackrain said:

No way, just promote him to a spot where he can concentrate solely at what he is best at acquiring talent . Heck he is good at it we got so much now we cant even pay for it all .

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Yea. He's so great at acquiring talent that the Cowboy's lead the league in suspensions for the last 5 years.

Blake said:

Yea. He's so great at acquiring talent that the Cowboy's lead the league in suspensions for the last 5 years.

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I didn't say he was great a disciplining there off field activities and social lives just that he could pick people that were good on the field . Young people do stupid things and Garrett just so happens to coach in an era when everyone carries a camera to record it.

Suspensions now are given out like candy its a joke. No evidence to charge you with a crime but some aspiring, money grabbing, bimbo makes an accusation and you get suspended

Diehardblues said:

Jerry’s not interested in hiring a HC who could come in and take all of the credit for winning a championship.

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That's why Jerry has not won a Championship with the Cowboys as President, GM, and HC.

JoeKing said:

The '90s Cowboys success has nothing to do with the current Cowboys salary situation. Stop connecting dots that have no business being connected.

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GenoT said:

Two totally different eras, in regards to roster building.

Even if you discount the fleecing of Minn in the Hershel Walker trade, back then, Jimmy and Jerry could always spend pretty near as much as they wanted to re-sign vets, while also filling in key roster spots thru FA. And there was much less guaranteed money on multi-year contracts at that time.

With today’s hard cap, a FO is under much more pressure to not make mi$take$.

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You don't have to connect dots when lines have been drawn plain to see.

Jimmy actually won with Troy and Michael on the 2nd contracts. Troy Aikman signed his second contract during the 1992 season, Michael signed his second contract in 1992 after a holdout, and Jerry signed Emmitt to his second contract during the 1993 season after he held out to be the highest paid RB ie. Zeke today holding out for the same. So Jimmy Johnson Personnel Staff knew how to negotiate, plan contracts, and find players.

Jerry Jones ticked of Jimmy by cutting off Johnson support in Bob Ackles, who Stephen Jones credited him for teaching him football contract negotiations, John Wooten, and Dick Mansberger. So there was nothing in place in the personnel department after 1993 to keep Norton, Gogan, Gesek, etc. If Jimmy Johnson was not fired, do you think that those players would have left Dallas or that Jimmy would blow his salary cap on Deion Sanders after winning Super Bowls with Kevin Smith, Larry Brown, and Issac Holt at CB? The myth of the salary cap excuse is totally blown away by Belichick's New England Patriots.

The difference again was Jimmy Johnson could coach (with a great coaching staff) delivering playoffs and a Super Bowl before the 1993 season with young talent and Garrett has not done the same with multiple opportunities with multiple eras of players (see Romo, Witten, Ware). We totally forget that Garrett has had 2 top 10 picks (Smith and Elliott), inherited a team with Romo, TO, Witten, and Ware. Now he has Will McClay delivering Martin, Zeke, Dak, Jones, Leighton, J. Smith, etc. So Jerry has given his Tom Landry wanna be Jason Garrett another chance but the issue and results have remained.

eromeopolk said:

Jerry and Stephen Jones should stop messing around and pay Dak, Zeke and Cooper. They have the cap room. The players have delivered as play makers.

The problem is that where Jimmy Johnson succeeded with a young QB, RB, and WR. Jason Garrett failed. Garrett had 2016-2018 and could only deliver one playoff win. Garrett with Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2016 playoff lost, Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2017 no playoffs, and Dak, Zeke, and Cooper in 2018 playoff win.

Jimmy Johnson from 1990-1992 delivered 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl win with his young guns before any holdouts and contract negotiations. Johnson knew he had a window and jump through it. Jason Garrett has been a big disappointment as the next Tom Landry (as Jerry described). When resigned Jason Garrett as Head Coach after the 2014 season, Jerry has created the mess he is in now. Jason had gone 8-8 seasons 3 times in a row losing crucial NFC East games with no playoffs, 12-4 with a Wild Card win and bad coaching in the Greenbay divisional playoff lost. What was the reward Jerry got for resigning Jason Garrett? The Cowboys went 4-12 in 2015.

Jerry Jones hired the next Tom Landry and he is not Tom Landry. So pay Dak, Zeke, Cooper, and hire a new Head Coach.

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The problem is Garrett hasn't had a Michael Irvin. Forget that Irvin is the greatest receiver of all time but his leadership and motivation is 2nd to no one. Garrett should have had more success but without Irvin, Jimmy wouldn't have won 2 spaniels and Switzer wouldn't have won his. When Irvin was injured and forced to retire so did Dallas chances at winning about Superbowl. Until Irvin is back in some capacity this team will continue to fail......

Garrett had Romo, Ware, Bryant, Martin, Fred, Bailey, spencer, Murray and did squat

In Garrett's three playoff losses the Cowboys have allowed a total 90 points by their opponents (30 ppg).

Toss in Wade's last playoff loss (3-34) and you get 124 points by Dallas opponents in the Cowboys last four playoff losses - that's 31 per game.

The SB teams in the 90s allowed 15.7, 17.0, and 18.3 in their championship runs. Funny how that works.

GhostOfPelluer said:

I think we’re about to see Garrett’s magnum opus. Where he thrives is in blocking out the distractions and chaos and his players tend to follow his lead.

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LOL...…...did you just make that up? Typically ANY little distraction or injury and the team cant handle it. 2016 being the only year where that didn't apply.

Jake said:

In Garrett's three playoff losses the Cowboys have allowed a total 90 points by their opponents (30 ppg).

Toss in Wade's last playoff loss (3-34) and you get 124 points by Dallas opponents in the Cowboys last four playoff losses - that's 31 per game.

The SB teams in the 90s allowed 15.7, 17.0, and 18.3 in their championship runs. Funny how that works.

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There is no debate or argument. Garrett is a joke of a HC. That has been proven over and back.

CowboyRoy said:

There is no debate or argument. Garrett is a joke of a HC. That has been proven over and back.

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eromeopolk said:

Jerry and Stephen Jones should stop messing around and pay Dak, Zeke and Cooper. They have the cap room. The players have delivered as play makers.

The problem is that where Jimmy Johnson succeeded with a young QB, RB, and WR. Jason Garrett failed. Garrett had 2016-2018 and could only deliver one playoff win. Garrett with Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2016 playoff lost, Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2017 no playoffs, and Dak, Zeke, and Cooper in 2018 playoff win.

Jimmy Johnson from 1990-1992 delivered 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl win with his young guns before any holdouts and contract negotiations. Johnson knew he had a window and jump through it. Jason Garrett has been a big disappointment as the next Tom Landry (as Jerry described). When resigned Jason Garrett as Head Coach after the 2014 season, Jerry has created the mess he is in now. Jason had gone 8-8 seasons 3 times in a row losing crucial NFC East games with no playoffs, 12-4 with a Wild Card win and bad coaching in the Greenbay divisional playoff lost. What was the reward Jerry got for resigning Jason Garrett? The Cowboys went 4-12 in 2015.

Jerry Jones hired the next Tom Landry and he is not Tom Landry. So pay Dak, Zeke, Cooper, and hire a new Head Coach.

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Im in the camp pay all 3 of them but comparing these triplets to the 90's unfair its a mismatch all the way

and ya Johnson>Garrett

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Garrett failed but the players didn't? They're the ones on the field! Pay them my arse. For what? To fail some more?

Garrett's game planning and playbook are 'unique' , to say the least.

In 10 years he hasn't won a playoff. THATS AN NFL RECORD.

9 Teams he has 'coached', thats at least 450+ players under him ... NONE of those could win a playoff with Garrett at the helm.

'Its the players...' 'Garrett isn't in field.'
Funny, how that works ... those 450+ players over the span of a decade ?

When a coach can't 'coach'; thats the excuses you hear ...

I'm sure Garrett would be better if he had a Hall of Fame Trio, but this present day Trio will never sniff the HOF, so it must be all Garrett's fault.

I just don't get the analogy. Johnson also had HOF talent of the defensive side of the ball.

Jake said:

In Garrett's three playoff losses the Cowboys have allowed a total 90 points by their opponents (30 ppg).

Toss in Wade's last playoff loss (3-34) and you get 124 points by Dallas opponents in the Cowboys last four playoff losses - that's 31 per game.

The SB teams in the 90s allowed 15.7, 17.0, and 18.3 in their championship runs. Funny how that works.

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Who hired the dinosaur bones (Kiffin and Marinelli) to coach the Cowboys Defense from 2010 to present...Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett.

CowboyRoy said:

LOL...…...did you just make that up? Typically ANY little distraction or injury and the team cant handle it. 2016 being the only year where that didn't apply.

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You wouldn’t know good coaching if it walked up and slapped you upside the head. Or much else about the sport for that matter.

I'm trying to follow the logic here.....so if Garrett was successful, we wouldn't have to pay Dak, EzE, and Coop?

eromeopolk said:

Jerry and Stephen Jones should stop messing around and pay Dak, Zeke and Cooper. They have the cap room. The players have delivered as play makers.

The problem is that where Jimmy Johnson succeeded with a young QB, RB, and WR. Jason Garrett failed. Garrett had 2016-2018 and could only deliver one playoff win. Garrett with Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2016 playoff lost, Dak, Zeke, Dez, and Witten in 2017 no playoffs, and Dak, Zeke, and Cooper in 2018 playoff win.

Jimmy Johnson from 1990-1992 delivered 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl win with his young guns before any holdouts and contract negotiations. Johnson knew he had a window and jump through it. Jason Garrett has been a big disappointment as the next Tom Landry (as Jerry described). When resigned Jason Garrett as Head Coach after the 2014 season, Jerry has created the mess he is in now. Jason had gone 8-8 seasons 3 times in a row losing crucial NFC East games with no playoffs, 12-4 with a Wild Card win and bad coaching in the Greenbay divisional playoff lost. What was the reward Jerry got for resigning Jason Garrett? The Cowboys went 4-12 in 2015.

Jerry Jones hired the next Tom Landry and he is not Tom Landry. So pay Dak, Zeke, Cooper, and hire a new Head Coach.

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For sure...don't know what to think...just grab up a folk song and sing.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Let this man live.

Jimmy won big when his triplets were still on their first contracts. Garrett couldn't do that but that doesn't mean we give up on the players. Sign these guys so we can continue to compete at a high level. Jimmy done what Garrett couldn't, win with a young team.

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Does “sign these guys” mean we pay whatever price they ask?