For the sign Zeke at all costs crowd

Diehardblues · Aug 18, 2019

kskboys said:
I've seen both good and bad from Dak, and I'm still iffy. Thing is, if he's the guy, we need to find out now. Immediately.

I’m not convinced Jerry won’t sign him anyway. He’s so determined he’s right about Dak and why he’ll most likely not take a chance sitting Zeke.

Unfortunately normal Cap mgmt and team decisions don’t necessarily apply to our Football Idiots. Lol

Diehardblues · Aug 18, 2019

Jerry would rather over pay Dak than admit he was wrong about him. And much like last year with the desperation trade for Cooper will use all of his resources to keep that hope alive. Even if it means mis managing the Cap. Which over paying a QB definitely is.

If Jerry truly wanted to leave Dak out to dry he would have let last season play out. And why IMO even if he lets Zeke sit initially , the first sign of a struggle or season in jeopardy he will bring Zeke back.

The Cooper trade wasn’t just about saving the season but Daks career.

Melonfeud · Aug 19, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Jerry would rather over pay Dak than admit he was wrong about him. And much like last year with the desperation trade for Cooper will use all of his resources to keep that hope alive. Even if it means mis managing the Cap. Which over paying a QB definitely is.

If Jerry truly wanted to leave Dak out to dry he would have let last season play out. And why IMO even if he lets Zeke sit initially , the first sign of a struggle or season in jeopardy he will bring Zeke back.

The Cooper trade wasn’t just about saving the season but Daks career.

In you're learnered& esteemed view perhaps it very well may be framed into that narrow confines of viewed opinion, yet the raiders was dangling that (future) #19 trade out on the market, a pretty good while before Jerry said "why the hell not?" In his committing of future draft capital, and if you think about what the possible initial one on one first person conversation 'tween the #19&#4, in what it could've been? I'm thinking It might of been as simple as Coop to Prescott " look,Man,I'm gonna be exactly where I'm supposed to be on any called play involving my #,so don't you be hemhawin' in that twitchy shadow of doubt fog& you just fire it my way,cuz' that's where I'm gonna' be",,, man,I've gotta' harbor an ongoing opinion that under the structured Garrett atmosphere ,that straight up kinda' talk really doesn't blossom, hell,Cooper had nothing to lose & everything to gain,,,straight outta'the gate upon his day #1 of rolling in ya know?

sideon · Aug 19, 2019

If you think Pollard playing well against 2nd stringers makes Zeke expendable then you deserve the misery this team gives you.

Hoofbite · Aug 19, 2019

I'd either sign him to a reasonable (relatively speaking) deal, or I'd exercise every last option possible to retain him without a long-term contract and let him go when it's over.

This year, 5th year option, Franchise Tag, and then let him go. I'd also run his *** into the ground just to make sure I got every last bit of value I could. Only 16 RBs have more than 3 seasons with 300+ rushing attempts since 1980. Zeke is already at 2 seasons. If Dallas were to get 4 or 5 out him, that's an absolute win. Use him up, and then move on.

Whyjerry · Aug 19, 2019

AbeBeta said:
My opinion remains. Anyone with a Landry avatar is decades out of touch

Out of touch? Go stick your face in a fan.

PAPPYDOG · Aug 19, 2019

TheSkaven said:
For those blaming that Dak sack only on Pollard, look at the play again. Fast forward to 1 min. on this video:

This is a La’el Collins bust, though Pollard also should have picked it up.

Why did he hold the ball forever ...Prescott TUCK IT IN to avoid another fumble?
Or throw it away?
He's slow in the game mentally that is and his mind clogs up and what you see is the end result.
56 sacks 12 fumbles last seson...wonder how many it will be this year?

StuckMojo · Aug 19, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Jerry would rather over pay Dak than admit he was wrong about him. And much like last year with the desperation trade for Cooper will use all of his resources to keep that hope alive. Even if it means mis managing the Cap. Which over paying a QB definitely is.

If Jerry truly wanted to leave Dak out to dry he would have let last season play out. And why IMO even if he lets Zeke sit initially , the first sign of a struggle or season in jeopardy he will bring Zeke back.

The Cooper trade wasn’t just about saving the season but Daks career.

Unfortunately Dak will be getting over paid no matter what and I hope that doesn't hurt the team in the long run. Of the 3, Zeke is the one that deserves to be paid as an elite at his position but he has 2 years left and should be waiting til next year.

buybuydandavis · Aug 19, 2019

Whyjerry said:
After watching Pollard last night has your opinion of the Zeke situation changed at all?

Pollard makes any holdout by Zeke less effective. Nowhere near the power or vision, but he looks like a credible back who can make a cut decisively. Our oline will give him holes.

CowboyRoy · Aug 19, 2019

Flamma said:
Pollard looks good. Even if it was against a backup defense, that has nothing to do with the quickness I saw him run through that hole. I was impressed. Zeke is a luxury and Dallas may be without him for some time. As far as his antics go, what has he really done that is so inconsistent with many kids in the early to mid 20s? His only fault is that he's high profile and has to know he's being watched much more. I would say that most NFL players aren't even recognized in public.

Its the bad decision making and stupidity. Knowing that you are high profile and that you could easily screw things up for your team and your career, he continues to do it.

He has been given a huge gift in life and something that everyone dreams about and he is screwing it up. Or takes it for granted. Which in a way proves he doesnt deserve it.

Irvin88_4life · Aug 19, 2019

aria said:
Hasn’t changed one bit, only reinforced my thoughts. Fine Zeke, trade Zeke, or let him sit and pout like the entitled bully brat he is. Roll with Pollard/Morris and draft a RB next year.

I agree but Morris looks awful. I much rather go with Jackson and Weber. Some will point to experience with those guys, or lack of experience, but RB is the easiest to get. Not saying they will be all pro but I think those 3 can be effective for this team. I hope the game against the Texans we see Jackson and Weber with the 1s some to really see what they got.

Irvin88_4life · Aug 19, 2019

aria said:
How so, we were slightly below average last year. I like your optimism and it’s a serious question, I think we will definitely be better but best in the game?!

Having Fred back and Cobb won’t change it that much. I guess you could argue Moore will be our savior, he certainly has to be an upgrade from Linehan but I doubt enough to make that much of a difference.

Getting Frederick back is huge. He makes the calls and it's no coincidence that or OL didn't become one of the best until we drafted Frederick. Also getting Cooper and Gallup (development) for an entire season will help open up the run game for guys like Pollard if we don't have Zeke. Moore calling the plays, I think will help as well.

Reverend Conehead · Aug 19, 2019

There is no one player who's worth breaking the bank and making the team crippled by the cap. Do these players really want to be ultra-paid on a team that has no shot at the Super Bowl? Because that's what will happen if Jerry sells the farm to pay Zeke and Dak.

atlantacowboy · Aug 19, 2019

Nobody is going to hand Zeke the huge contract he's going to demand before playing AND give us draft picks of any worth.

aria · Aug 19, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Getting Frederick back is huge. He makes the calls and it's no coincidence that or OL didn't become one of the best until we drafted Frederick. Also getting Cooper and Gallup (development) for an entire season will help open up the run game for guys like Pollard if we don't have Zeke. Moore calling the plays, I think will help as well.

It’s big, but when I said “that much of a difference” I was referring to the guy who said we could be the best offense in the league. I don’t think Fred’s return and the addition of Cobb will bring it from where we were, slightly below average offense, to best in the league.

Even if we had every starter healthy, I don’t think we would have the best offense in the league. There are other rosters, and obviously coaching, that I would put my money on before this team (as far as best offense). Although I do think our O line will be top 3, top 5 at worse barring any injuries. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them number one honestly.

Mr_437 · Aug 19, 2019

When Pollard goes against a defense like the "Legion of Boom" and runs thru the baddest mofo Joe on the defense then I might listen to a mention of Pollard.

I wanted DAL to draft Pollard way before the draft, but the desperation of Media n Fans to try and vault Pollard to a position where he's a viable replacement for Zeke is too wishful.

CF74 · Aug 19, 2019

Everything is negotiable but since we spent a 4rth to get him the bid has to start out at Two 1sts, doubt anybody would pay that in this day and age...

I’d consider paying him with an early early out clause, discipline stipulations, safety nets, etc.

If he gets suspended then he owes us money back, maybe you can put his money in a trust fund lol

cowboygo · Aug 19, 2019

Whyjerry said:
For the record (again) I think Zeke is a great player. His maturity level and this holdout though have turned me into a seller of Zeke. That said I wish there was no cap and they could sign him. Unfortunately there is a cap and the 2020 off season is going to be loaded with others that need to be signed. RBs do not equal championships!

After watching Pollard last night has your opinion of the Zeke situation changed at all?

Also please don’t beat up on Morris. The Cowboys OL backups suck. They really, really suck.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

Yes, Pollard looked really good, but why not have both. Yes, the cap room is diminishing, but the window is also closing with the OL getting older and the young defense closing up on their contracts. I'd say sign him, with a 4 year extension that pays him like Gurley, with some kind of opt after 4 years played (including this one, 2019-2022, potential out for 2023). Now, even with signing him to an extension, I hope his workload is scaled back 50-100 touches a season. If we make it to a Super Bowl, lots of guys will become very expensive, its just the way it is. If we continue to draft well, we will be able to continue to field contenders.

It could all change if we have a disastrous 2019 season, but I can't see it happening. Sign him, make it happen, and worry later. Let's try to win a ship the next few years.

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

Rams didn’t play their starters.

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

Reverend Conehead said:
There is no one player who's worth breaking the bank and making the team crippled by the cap. Do these players really want to be ultra-paid on a team that has no shot at the Super Bowl? Because that's what will happen if Jerry sells the farm to pay Zeke and Dak.

It’s basically an All In or start over . Don’t pay either and what do you have?

We know what we have with them. And it’s arguably a few plays away from a championship appearance.

And we’ve added some talent in FA and draft.
The Future is Now.

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I Copy!,,, er,,,I guess,,,ah,,,maybe.

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There are no Dak haters just Cowboy lovers!!!

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