Saturday night summary in four words

erod · Aug 19, 2019

Sarge said:
My summary in 4 words.

I don't careabout preseasongames.

You could have gotten that to three words with a little more effort.

Hennessy_King · Aug 19, 2019

Whyjerry said:
Fried chicken is good.

Big Facts

csirl · Aug 19, 2019

No new offensive scheme

Risen Star · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
Yes, have a training camp. But when a team doesn't play 20 of 22 starters in BOTH of the first games, that tells you how little value the preseason games area to a team.

Actually it doesn't as the evaluation and development of your depth is critical and you can only do that in a game situation in the preseason.

It's not meant to entertain you. It's about team building and preparing for the season.

Hennessy_King · Aug 19, 2019

4 Words

They Will Pay Zeke

that is all

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
Yes, have a training camp. But when a team doesn't play 20 of 22 starters in BOTH of the first games, that tells you how little value the preseason games area to a team.

Players stay in shape year round now. They don't work offseason jobs. Teams need to practice, but the don't need four games to play guys they're going to cut anyway.

College football doesn't have a preseason. High school doesn't. Why do the pros need this?

Also, teams are having controlled scrimmages with other teams. They don’t need a preseason game with full contact for their veterans.

If fans had watch HBO’s Hard Knocks they’d of seen the Rams practicing all week with Raiders before their game in which they didn’t play starters.

blueblood70 · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
Expanded rosters won't work. It's not like you're going to play different players. You'd just have more kickoff team guys.

That would mean an extra season of football for every player in 8 years. That shortens careers.

I think 16 games is too many. 14 was best.

your opinion to me IMO having the extra 10 PS guys,

its for injury reason to have them ALL available you wouldn't need short term IR or use specific packages against certain schemes, having all your players available in game in case of injury etc is key with 18games.. I want more games and less PS games...just not enough football when you have 166 Baseball games, 82 NBA and NHL games long Golf seasons et etc..football season is here and gone off season is brutal especially here, LOL

erod · Aug 19, 2019

Diehardblues said:
I don’t have an issue with preseason. It’s better than waiting until after Labor Day to watch Cowboys football.

At least locally we get the Countdown To Kickoff each week which highlights what’s going on in Camp and elsewhere with the Cowboys including interviews. And the local broadcast continue thru the game discussing issues, et.

More Cowboys Football is always good to this fan however it’s presented. Amazing fans who spend about 52 weeks a year visiting Cowboys forum would take issue with 4 Exhibition games preluding the season.

My issues with them are:

1. Unnecessary season-ending injury risk for too many weeks and games.
2. Players, especially quarterbacks, are impossible to evaluate surrounded by non-NFL players around them.
3. The important players don't hardly do anything or hit in practice anyway.
4. Having to buy full-price tickets as a season-ticket holder. (self-serving reason)
5. Camp just looks like a big advertising campaign to sell paraphernalia.

MarcusRock · Aug 19, 2019

DakPresgoat said:
I am intrigued by the extra playoff team from each conference.

Only give the #1 seed a first round bye. Have the other 6 teams play in the wild card round.

This would add 2 playoff games to the opening round of the playoffs. Considering the tv ratings for NFL playoffs and the ticket costs. That’s a decent chunk of revenue right there.

I would be worried about adding extra regular season games too if I was an NFL player.

I wonder if the thing about adding a playoff game would be oversaturation. As of now, you get a doubleheader on both Saturday and Sunday in the opening round. Having to place 2 extra games per conference then makes it a tripleheader each day because they're not going to have the games compete with each other to maximize revenue. I love football but 3 games in a row would be a bit much for me even on a single day and I'd just pick the 1 or 2 I'm most interested in. The goal is the keep fans locked in but I think there can be a fatigue point, playoffs or not, if you're throwing in tripleheaders on consecutive days.

erod · Aug 19, 2019

blueblood70 said:
your opinion to me IMO having the extra 10 PS guys,

its for injury reason to have them ALL available you wouldn't need short term IR or use specific packages against certain schemes, having all your players available in game in case of injury etc is key with 18games.. I want more games and less PS games...just not enough football when you have 166 Baseball games, 82 NBA and NHL games long Golf seasons et etc..football season is here and gone off season is brutal especially here, LOL

So who is going to play in case Tyron Smith and his backup are hurt because they got hurt in Week 17? Does it even matter? Whoever it is will absolutely suck at football.

There aren't enough humans on the planet capable of playing NFL football for this to work.

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

Risen Star said:
Actually it doesn't as the evaluation and development of your depth is critical and you can only do that in a game situation in the preseason.

It's not meant to entertain you. It's about team building and preparing for the season.

Right

Preseason are vital to assessing depth and team building. Not intended to entertain fans or provide playing time or risk of injury to veterans.

blueblood70 · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
So who is going to play in case Tyron Smith and his backup are hurt because they got hurt in Week 17? Does it even matter? Whoever it is will absolutely suck at football.

There aren't enough humans on the planet capable of playing NFL football for this to work.

but its better then say making a TE play LT because you didnt bring an extra Linemen etc etc.. doesnt matter we wont get writhe or the POINT WAS if PS games are money grabs and a bad product , then if owners agree to reduce them down to maybe 2 they for sure wont simply use that revenue it will eb expanded to 18 so its status quo or big changes coming ..

18 games would require bringing all 53 with you , simply would.. they would find ways say to not use some star vets on ST and bring ST aces off those extra 10 etc..gives the stars fresher legs for the extra 2 games..

I can see your side but we both know if PS games are reduced their will be 18 game and expanded rosters. y guess this new CBA fight will have this as TOP Topic..

erod · Aug 19, 2019

Risen Star said:
Actually it doesn't as the evaluation and development of your depth is critical and you can only do that in a game situation in the preseason.

It's not meant to entertain you. It's about team building and preparing for the season.

The ONLY way to properly evaluate a player is to use him with other guys that will actually play in games. I don't care if Darius Jackson can run behind third stringers and against third stringers. Success or failure there tells us nothing.

Can Cooper Rush play? Impossible to know unless you see him playing with the 1's against another teams 1s. Did Taco play well like Jerry said? Maybe, but against whom?

Because that doesn't happen, the real evaluation only happens in practice.

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
My issues with them are:

1. Unnecessary season-ending injury risk for too many weeks and games.
2. Players, especially quarterbacks, are impossible to evaluate surrounded by non-NFL players around them.
3. The important players don't hardly do anything or hit in practice anyway.
4. Having to buy full-price tickets as a season-ticket holder. (self-serving reason)
5. Camp just looks like a big advertising campaign to sell paraphernalia.

Yea, it suks for season ticket holders. I always gave mine away. And it is a big opportunity to sell merchandise. I’m sure it still generates revenue or the teams wouldn’t do it.

I still see no reason otherwise to complain about practice or exhibition scrimmages. They aren’t must see TV.

erod · Aug 19, 2019

blueblood70 said:
but its better then say making a TE play LT because you didnt bring an extra Linemen etc etc.. doesnt matter we wont get writhe or the POINT WAS if PS games are money grabs and a bad product , then if owners agree to reduce them down to maybe 2 they for sure wont simply use that revenue it will eb expanded to 18 so its status quo or big changes coming ..
.

Then just allow teams to suit 53 every week. Who cares?

The guys you want to add to the roster are out there. All the time. Never good enough.

The playoff product will be weaker because guys' bodies will be exhausted and broken down. 21 games is WAY too many to win a Super Bowl.

InTheZone · Aug 19, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
Easy solution don't watch them. 1st game is in Sept.

True, 1st year I havent watched preseason

Diehardblues · Aug 19, 2019

Would fans rather not have preseason games to watch and simply wait until after Labor Day to see any Cowboys play?

I’m not really sure why fans get so fussy about it? Unless of course you’re a season ticket holder and forced to pay for them.

blueblood70 · Aug 19, 2019

Bring back Zeke, NOW!

erod · Aug 19, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Would fans rather not have preseason games to watch and simply wait until after Labor Day to see any Cowboys play?

I’m not really sure why fans get so fussy about it? Unless of course you’re a season ticket holder and forced to pay for them.

I think there should be 1 game. Maybe 2 if you stretch it.

We watched Mike White throwing the ball to Reggie Davis, and Jordan Chunn running the football for most of that game.

Those are uniforms we recognize, but those aren't actual Dallas Cowboys.

Fletch · Aug 19, 2019

erod said:
Tony Pollard can scoot.

The End.

There's the sum total meaningful review of Saturday's dressed-up practice session.

It's long been true, but never more so than now. The preseason is a complete, utter, absolute, unapologetic, pure money grab that offers no meaningful football purpose whatsoever. It's 3 hours to identify 1 or 2 guys that can play on the punt team. Nothing more. Both teams could have named 50 of their 53 opening day roster players in May.

The Rams left 20 of their 22 starters in California. Dallas was without Zeke, Cooper, Tyron, Lawrence, and Jones, and played the rest of the meaningful guys for a hiccup. Then it was a battle for last place in the Big Sky Conference.

The NFL has to stop this. Why show the world your underpants for just for a few dollars. The owners are pimping these preseason games out to the unwashed masses purely for profit, because the players get paid next to nothing for these games. Stop dressing these games up like Harry Hines' finest.

No, I don't want an 18-game schedule. But the NFL needs to stop insisting on 4 of these time wastes. The networks hate it. The players hate it. We hate it. The coaches mostly hate it.

It's just a good way to get players injured for the sake of blackmailing networks and season ticket holders into buying into this garbage.

Four words: “I will be attending.”

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