Unconfirmed: I blame the Cowboys

aikemirv

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no propaganda it what he wants you to believe its the only story saying so.. they never negotiated with other teams EVER..he couldn't because he had yr left and not one TRUE report says otherwise..If he was an RFA they could have talked to other teams and the Cowboys could match ,that never happened..

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-17-sp-36152-story.html


https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/galle...revis-chancellor-emmitt-smith-jamarcus-081516.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Dallas_Cowboys_season

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/13/sports/cowboys-millions-keep-smith-in-dallas.html


think of it Logically Dude was drafted in 1990 had 4 yr deal

he played 1990, 1991, and 1992 HELD OUT BEFORE BEFORE before BEFORE THE 1993 SEASON

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN IF HE HASNT PLAYED 4 YEARS YET, YOU SAY HE FULLFILLED HIS CONTRACT WHEN NO WAY HE COULD HAVE..it was 4yr deal he played 3 years and then HELD OUT..

stop trying to message the truth.. if you are going to argue when he held out like the year it was before 1993season and drafted in 1990 with a 4yr deal..

is that too much for you to understand?

Messaging the truth hmm - I will just take Emmitts word for it that "he had completely fulfilled his contract" and he must have had an option, but I cannot find the contract details anywhere and I guess you can't either.
 

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By talking about his concerns. Is that too hard to understand?
Talking to whom? The agent or the media?

They had to have talked to the agent if they knew there would be an issue.
- There is no possible way for them to know that a holdout might happen except by talking to the agent.
 

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This is no surprise. The FO was warned that Zeke might be suspended in 2017 and were taken totally of guard when it happened. As usual, we are ill prepared to handle the loss of Zeke.
No, somebody in the NFL told Jerry that he was NOT likely to get suspended.
 

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He did stop acting as if he was a RFA , its not TRUE he was under contract had entire year left ,.im not going to argue, not one report from back then or 99% of media rehashing it ,calls it anything but a holdout.. its still shows even a player who is in high regard will be selfish when it comes to his money.. its was a dang HOLDOUT nothing more nothing less he was scheduled to play that year..

You are incorrect.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-a-deal/52904fb0-6f45-4fd4-9640-67c506f55393/

Smith -- the 15th pick of the 1990 draft out of the University of Florida -- was finishing a three-year, $2.175 million contract. His $465,000 salary last season made him one of the NFL's best bargains when he won a second straight rushing championship with 1,713 yards. The previous NFL back to win consecutive rushing championships was Eric Dickerson in 1983-84.


"I was underpaid the first three years," Smith said recently. "Now it's time for me to be paid what I'm worth."In only three seasons, he has rushed for 4,213 yards, last season becoming the first rushing champion to play on a Super Bowl winner.


https://www.si.com/vault/1993/09/20...mmitt-smiths-shoes-the-cowboys-stumbled-again

Who would you rather be at this stage of the young season, Jimmy Johnson or Marv Levy?

Johnson is coaching the defending Super Bowl champion Dallas Cowboys, with their youth and speed, but he's playing shorthanded. Emmitt Smith, the Cowboys' two-time NFL rushing champ, is unsigned and watching the games at home in Pensacola, Fla., while the guy who handles the Dallas payroll, owner Jerry Jones, talks about the financial stability of his club. And Johnson is burning.

"What's the situation with Emmitt?" someone asked Johnson after Sunday's 13-10 loss to Levy's Buffalo Bills, the Cowboys' second defeat in as many games this season.


https://www.upi.com/Archives/1993/09/16/Smith-ends-holdout/1190748152000/

Other NFL clubs could have offered Smith a contract prior to the start of training camp, although the Cowboys had the right to match any offer. But no other teams made an offer to Smith.

 
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Talking to whom? The agent or the media?

They had to have talked to the agent if they knew there would be an issue.
- There is no possible way for them to know that a holdout might happen except by talking to the agent.

Did they address the issue when they first received notice, is my question.
 

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It's not a loophole. Zeke is refusing to honor his word.
But the self serving ex players on media networks all side with the current self serving players who want to GET PAID. I am so sick of these ignorant money grubbing people it really is bothering me. All they want is to be PAID. They are takers who do little to earn what they want. As if there is a ginormous difference between earning $13 million per year VS $15 million? Gimme a break. Gotta feed your family. SHUT UP with that lunacy. No one needs this much to feed their family EVER. I respect Jaylon Smith. Some of these idiot selfish ex players, think he was stupid. Maybe because Jaylon has a ton more morals than you dimwits ever had!!!! They that LOVE silver (Money) will NEVER be satisfied with it........
 

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Did they address the issue when they first received notice, is my question.

I don't think the agent used a 1-way method of communication that prevented them from discussing the issue.

It's not as if the agent rented one of those planes that spell out a message in the sky to convey the message.

Either they discussed the issue with the agent and knew about the issue or they didn't discuss it and didn't know.

It's definitely possible that the agent wanted to wait and make a big splash by having Zeke holdout without prior notice.

In fact, it's highly possible that the agent wanted the publicity of the holdout.

Zeke's agent is a very low level agent with regards to dollars under contract.
- The agent is at about 50M under contract and Zeke's rookie contract is half of that number.
- The agents for Dak and Cooper each have over 1 billion under contract.

The holdout has been basically a no cost option for Zeke and the agent up to this point.
- The fines are relatively trivial as compared to missing a game check.

Why not holdout until the season starts?
 

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Not dictate, but if there is a loophole in the agreement, why not extort your perceived findings.
He has 2 years left...You cant let players dictate when they get psid..You signed the contract..be a man and live up to it
Dak is in camp & Amari and BOTH on last years...
 

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Having a payer/ payee contract does not mean you're partners. Some players don't honor the contract. David Irving. Some teams dont honor the contract. Ryan Leaf. It's a mixed bag. But yes Zeke's holdout was him not honoring his contract.

Not staying true to a contract happens all the time. Cheating spouses.

How are you comparing those, Zeke is in a different situation. If you look at truthfully, Zeke already breeches his contract 3 times....lol
 

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It's not a loophole. Zeke is refusing to honor his word.

Business contract with defined penalties for failure to perform. Word and honor have nothing to do with it.

The Cowboys, and fans, have been open about wanting to chew Zeke up and spit him out. Throw his broken body on the ash heap of history after we've squeezed all the production we can out of it, and glibly move on, whistling a merry tune. That's our attitude toward RBs. They're consumables.

We use RBs. It should come as no surprise that RBs show more interest toward their own self interest than good faith performance to the interest of the contract's counterparty planning to chew them up and spit them out. Good faith performance goes both ways, or not at all.

Zeke has a point with his union of RBs. The NFL's relationship with its RBs is toxic. The CBA is typical union stuff, benefiting existing hires over new hires. You "pay your dues" on a rookie contract before you become a vested vet eligible for free agent money, able to feed off the value of the next generation of new hires.

But in the case of RBs, the deal is broken. "Chew em up on their rookie contracts, leaving little for free agency" is the open and explicit strategy with RBs now. All other players are just entering their prime play years after their rookie contracts, but RBs are largely spent. The CBA is a bad deal for RBs.

And it's the Cowboys who made the RB as consumable strategy open with Murray. They didn't hide it. They proudly came out and said it, patting themselves on the back for how clever they are. *We* don't hide it as Cowboy fans. Chew him up, spit him out. We're so clever!

RBs and their agents see this, and are fighting back. Action. Reaction. Bell. Gurley. Now Zeke.

They are the sticks that stir the drink, but the CBA is designed to screw them relative to other players. It's rather entitled of fans and the league to expect them to be loyal soldiers to *our* interests as we throw them out on the minefields to clear the way for profit and fun for everyone else.
 

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So hat it now been confirmed that you blame the Cowboys or is it still unconfirmed

:muttley:
 

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Business contract with defined penalties for failure to perform. Word and honor have nothing to do with it.

The Cowboys, and fans, have been open about wanting to chew Zeke up and spit him out. Throw his broken body on the ash heap of history after we've squeezed all the production we can out of it, and glibly move on, whistling a merry tune. That's our attitude toward RBs. They're consumables.

We use RBs. It should come as no surprise that RBs show more interest toward their own self interest than good faith performance to the interest of the contract's counterparty planning to chew them up and spit them out. Good faith performance goes both ways, or not at all.

Zeke has a point with his union of RBs. The NFL's relationship with its RBs is toxic. The CBA is typical union stuff, benefiting existing hires over new hires. You "pay your dues" on a rookie contract before you become a vested vet eligible for free agent money, able to feed off the value of the next generation of new hires.

But in the case of RBs, the deal is broken. "Chew em up on their rookie contracts, leaving little for free agency" is the open and explicit strategy with RBs now. All other players are just entering their prime play years after their rookie contracts, but RBs are largely spent. The CBA is a bad deal for RBs.

And it's the Cowboys who made the RB as consumable strategy open with Murray. They didn't hide it. They proudly came out and said it, patting themselves on the back for how clever they are. *We* don't hide it as Cowboy fans. Chew him up, spit him out. We're so clever!

RBs and their agents see this, and are fighting back. Action. Reaction. Bell. Gurley. Now Zeke.

They are the sticks that stir the drink, but the CBA is designed to screw them relative to other players. It's rather entitled of fans and the league to expect them to be loyal soldiers to *our* interests as we throw them out on the minefields to clear the way for profit and fun for everyone else.



None of this matters....lol they're willing to pay him, they offered the man a new deal. They've been trying to find RBs to compliment him and spell him. They're not treating him like Murray...lol
 

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Did they address the issue when they first received notice, is my question.
Where in the hell did you get information about Zeke saying he wouldn’t play without a contract months ago? If you don’t have proof then just be quiet and go away.
 

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Where in the hell did you get information about Zeke saying he wouldn’t play without a contract months ago? If you don’t have proof then just be quiet and go away.

You will not find one post of mine making that statement. What are you talking? Terribly aimed shot!
 
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