I agree with Jerry, if we sign Zeke to a new deal, what if he holds out again?

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Lets say we sign Zeke to a new 5 year contract...…...2 or 3 years from now, Barkley gets a new market setting contract for a RB, but Zeke still leads the league in rushing every season.

Is Zeke going to say, "that's not fair, I had more yards rushing than Barkley so I need to make more than him" so Zeke holds out again before his contract is up demanding "renegotiation".

Whats to keep Zeke from doing this?

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First of all I wouldn’t sign him to a 5 year contract. 3 or 4 at the most. By then if we haven’t won a championship time to move in if he held out again. He’d be past his prime anyway.

These next couple years are our best window of opportunity.
 

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Lets say we sign Zeke to a new 5 year contract...…...2 or 3 years from now, Barkley gets a new market setting contract for a RB, but Zeke still leads the league in rushing every season.

Is Zeke going to say, "that's not fair, I had more yards rushing than Barkley so I need to make more than him" so Zeke holds out again before his contract is up demanding "renegotiation".

Whats to keep Zeke from doing this?

Serious Question.

exactly.
extending him now is condoning bad behavior.

pull the offer.
giving him more $ gives him more leverage.

he can play under his rookie contract or not at all.
he wants to come in at game 11 every year.
fine, he loses almost 2/3 of his salary.
draft another rb to pair with pollard.
zeke would be useful for the playoffs, like jerry said
 

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exactly.
extending him now is condoning bad behavior.

pull the offer.
giving him more $ gives him more leverage.

he can play under his rookie contract or not at all.
he wants to come in at game 11 every year.
fine, he loses almost 2/3 of his salary.
draft another rb to pair with pollard.
zeke would be useful for the playoffs, like jerry said

Good points, cant argue with any of it.
 

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OK find, but what's the excuse for Dak, Coop, and Jones NOT being signed either and they're in camp. Like I said before, yea, there's a better way Zeke could have handled this but Jerry and Stephen's hands are just as dirty IMO.

dirty?
they have a signed contract.
there is no obligation to have an extension while the 1st one is still in effect.
 

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Lets say we sign Zeke to a new 5 year contract...…...2 or 3 years from now, Barkley gets a new market setting contract for a RB, but Zeke still leads the league in rushing every season.

Is Zeke going to say, "that's not fair, I had more yards rushing than Barkley so I need to make more than him" so Zeke holds out again before his contract is up demanding "renegotiation".

Whats to keep Zeke from doing this?

Serious Question.

That's what happens if a player's signature on a contract is allowed to mean nothing.
Demanding a new contract and holding out 2 years early is ridiculous. To reward Zeke handsomely for such premature greed would set a bad precedent.
Should everybody head for Cabo every time one player comes in at a higher salary? Where does it end? It's like a big snow ball rolling downhill.
 
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Sammy Watkins got a 3 YR 48 million dollar deal with 30million guaranteed a couple years back. What exactly has he done? Even with Buffalo to warrant what he got? Zeke has been consistent on the field. You can make a strong argument that he is the best in the NFL at RB. Was Sammy Watkins even a top 15 WR when he signed? How important was he to the Bills' offense compared to Zeke? The truth is that there are overinflated positional salaries in the NFL. It's a passing league but Dallas employs an offense with a strong running focus. They have to either bite the bullet and pay Zeke or roll the dice.
 
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First of all I wouldn’t sign him to a 5 year contract. 3 or 4 at the most. By then if we haven’t won a championship time to move in if he held out again. He’d be past his prime anyway.

These next couple years are our best window of opportunity.

Yes and Zeke is disqualifying himself from the opportunity to be a part of it. That's not the Cowboy's fault, it's Zeke's.
Zeke should not be allowed to hold his team hostage by breaching his contract prematurely.
One year early is commonplace, but 2 years early with a holdout is ridiculous.
 

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OK find, but what's the excuse for Dak, Coop, and Jones NOT being signed either and they're in camp. Like I said before, yea, there's a better way Zeke could have handled this but Jerry and Stephen's hands are just as dirty IMO.

Jerry wants Zeke signed first because his is going to be the lowest paid of the 3.
If Dak gets $30m and Cooper $20m, it’s going to get harder to get Zeke to agree to take what’s currently being offered.
Jerry knows this, but also Zeke and his agent know how it works also.
If Zeke had already signed, chances are Dak and Cooper would also.
 

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Jerrah needs to call Zeke directly to Cabo .

Talking to Rocky & his buddy Faulk is a waste of time .

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Sammy Watkins got a 3 YR 48 million dollar deal with 30million guaranteed a couple years back. What exactly has he done? Even with Buffalo to warrant what he got? Zeke has been consistent on the field. You can make a strong argument that he is the best in the NFL at RB. Was Sammy Watkins even a top 15 WR when he signed? How important was he to the Bills' offense compared to Zeke? The truth is that there are overinflated positional salaries in the NFL. It's a passing league but Dallas employs an offense with a strong running focus. They have to either bite the bullet and pay Zeke or roll the dice.

Great post. But...just because the Bills were dumb enough to pay Watkins 3/48 with 30 million guaranteed doesn't mean that Dallas has to break the bank, even though as you said, Zeke is in the top 1-2 of his position. Right now, they're not "valuing" the position more than we are, or even more than they did just the past few seasons. Maybe Moore's offense is going to be more west coast, and least pound on the ground (??)
 

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I just dont understand how some are eager to move on from Zeke. Probably the most gifted RB weve had since Emmitt
 

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Sammy Watkins got a 3 YR 48 million dollar deal with 30million guaranteed a couple years back. What exactly has he done? Even with Buffalo to warrant what he got? Zeke has been consistent on the field. You can make a strong argument that he is the best in the NFL at RB. Was Sammy Watkins even a top 15 WR when he signed? How important was he to the Bills' offense compared to Zeke? The truth is that there are overinflated positional salaries in the NFL. It's a passing league but Dallas employs an offense with a strong running focus. They have to either bite the bullet and pay Zeke or roll the dice.



Ok first it was the Chiefs who overpaid not the bills ..
Second because one team overpaid for a player with a stupid contract doesn’t mean everyone should ..
Third, you can’t compare a WR contract to a RB contract .. right or wrong it’s just not how this works .. for instance who is a better player right now .. Kirk Cousins or Zeke ? Kirk is making 27 million fully guaranteed .. so Zeke should get 32 million since the Vikings overpaid Kirk then , right ? Of course not ... can’t compare other teams player contract blunders for justification or to set the salary of your own players .. you can simply look at market trends and averages at the specific position :.. throw out the top one (ie Gurley) and the lowest one .. then take your own player , utilize on and off the field history , liabilities .. projected potential , shelf life , and timing at which the player is negotiating ( ie a player with two years left should be a little more flexible and offer not a discount but a compromise to gain more financial freedom earlier than necessary )
To overpay because someone else did or does it is bad business , not following sound thought processes ..
 
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