Still believe what the Jones boys say?

They didn’t really set the market though. They basically gave him gurleys deal but got more years out of it. Sure they gave what like 2 million more guaranteed, but for an extra two yrs of control.
Setting the market to me would have been like a 4 yr deal with the same guarantees and a higher AAV

Ranching said:

Not everyone is as Streetwise as you.....lol!

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Hahaha! Good one!

LACowboysFan1 said:

Can't agree totally, for several reasons. As far as the team, meaning players, is concerned, they beefed up the pass rush with Quinn (when he gets back), they have a bigger and stronger C. Williams (by all accounts), they added a veteran receiver in Cobb, Witten is back (the leadership is the main part, not his physical play, though he's probably still going to be open a lot) , Lawrence had the bothersome shoulder fixed, Pollard is a fresh back that teams haven't played against, and by far the biggest factor is the return of Travis Frederick. Looney played well, but he's no Frederick, obviously.

And coaching is at least different, NO Linehan with his vanilla offense. Add to that Richard having a full off season with the defense.

Basically the same team? Numbers-wise, sure, most of the same starters, but looking at the above I think the team is better...

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I think we will see more out of the defense in Richards 2nd season. Last year top 5 vs the run and a top 10 defense in his 1st season. I look for this team to do much more in terms of take aways than they did this past season

Bobhaze said:

How about when it comes to winning a championship?

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I would absolutely listen to him when it comes to winning championships over you or anyone else on this board, because unlike the internet executives he has actually won a few.

Whirlwin said:

If that makes you feel better LOL new money. Lol if the Cowboys didn't want to sign him to the deal. They wouldn't have

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You’re missing the point. Of course the Cowboys wanted Zeke. They just didn’t want to sign him to this particular deal, at this particular time… And for that much guaranteed. They had two more years on his contract… And then franchise tag options. Zeke basically said “it’s not going to go down like that”.

Then Jerry tried to sell everybody the notion that it is going to go down like that... but then ultimately tucked his tail between his legs and gave in to Zeke. Jerry showed nothing of this “backbone” that he was talking about

mcmvp said:

You’re missing the point. Of course the Cowboys wanted Zeke. They just didn’t want to sign him to this particular deal, at this particular time… And for that much guaranteed. They had two more years on his contract… And then franchise tag options. Zeke basically said “it’s not going to go down like that”.

Then Jerry tried to sell everybody the notion that it is going to go down like that... but then ultimately tucked his tail between his legs and gave in to Zeke. Jerry showed nothing of this “backbone” that he was talking about

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Zika is going to hold out again. Make no mistake about that the bottom line is it is what it is. 12.7 a year . You're making this about Jerry. And you couldn't be more wrong

Parcells4Life said:

They may not have set the market. Zekes deal doesn’t begin for 2 more years. By that time 15 mil may not be tops for a RB. It’s average is the highest but also has most years of team control. It’s a compromise.

Plus of the 90 mil only 50 is guaranteed so it allows them to get out in the later years if needed

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Exactly, this is setting the market for 2021, not the market for 2019. Lets see what Saquon gets......

mcmvp said:

You’re missing the point. Of course the Cowboys wanted Zeke. They just didn’t want to sign him to this particular deal, at this particular time… And for that much guaranteed. They had two more years on his contract… And then franchise tag options. Zeke basically said “it’s not going to go down like that”.

Then Jerry tried to sell everybody the notion that it is going to go down like that... but then ultimately tucked his tail between his legs and gave in to Zeke. Jerry showed nothing of this “backbone” that he was talking about

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One more time - what Jerry says publicly is not necessarily what he says privately. Jerry may well all along knew, or wanted, to "set the market" with/for Zeke, I doubt it, but unless we are in the private meetings with Jerry/Stephen, et al, or can read minds, we can't know for sure...

We really believe Elliott won't hold out again.

We all won!

Yay! Trophies all around!

PA Cowboy Fan said:

Jerry hired this coach. 10 years here and 2 playoff wins. It's time to finally see if the coach in training has finally graduated.

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I don't disagree but unlike some, I'm pulling for Garrett and this team to get over the hump and get that ring. I would rather see success than a major change.

Now Jerry has to cross his fingers and hope Zeke is not slowing down as it appears he did last year, and that he does not do something stupid in a bar in the offseason again.

Whirlwin said:

I believe it's only 12.7 million a year. A lot less than Elliott wanted initially.

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Don’t add the existing years in. He got a new deal that is the biggest in the league (currently). Higher aav than Gurley, and more guaranteed. Yes it’s 12.7 over the life, but it’s the new contract that matters. Otherwise to get where he “wanted” would have taken like 20 mil a yr In new money and that was never an option

Hawkeye19 said:

All of their talking is just posturing and negotiating through the media... and no one knows to what extent it was actually successful

Did JJ’s talk about playing Pollard and the kid’s preseason snaps actually make Zeke think JJ may call his bluff and go into the season without getting a deal done?

Who knows?

All we know is that when it came time to either take the field with a lesser roster or flush game checks down the drain— both sides stepped up and got the deal done

To criticize the Jones for talking to the media is like criticizing the rain because it’s wet...

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Well, it's pretty obvious
( to me,anyway) that Camp Elliott , struck camp in Cabo & lit out north to Dallas like a striped @$$ ape with it's hair afire, just as soon as they'd realized the irreparable damage that "Dak's a Bum" statement they'd attempted in floating out ,carried such a damningly damaging effect to their cause,,, oh,ya! They were more than willing to "walk back" some of their previous demands.

Whirlwin said:

Zika is going to hold out again. Make no mistake about that the bottom line is it is what it is. 12.7 a year . You're making this about Jerry. And you couldn't be more wrong

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This thread is about Jerry

PhillyCowboysFan said:

I would absolutely listen to him when it comes to winning championships over you or anyone else on this board, because unlike the internet executives he has actually won a few.

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Jimmy Johnson was performing the duties of the GM when we won 2 of those 3 super bowls and he had the last word in all football matters per his contract. The 3rd Super Bowl was won with the team Jimmy built and was won by a coach on autopilot with Jimmys roster.

After the 3rd Jimmy-built Super Bowl was won, Jerry began to take over in earnest, every facet of the team, football issues esp. Jerry's legacy is that of an owner who has tried to win a div playoff game for the past 24 seasons and failed. Jerry gets credit for hiring Jimmy, letting Jimmy have the last word with everything football related, and writing checks. Once Jimmys talent got old and splintered by free agency, Jerry was unable to even win consequetive playoff games with 24 seasons to experiment with.

So here we are 24 years later with what most sportswriters consider to be a championship roster, and odds are, we will fail to win consequetive playoff games again if we even make the playoffs at all. Why? Because Jerry refuses to give us an elite coaching staff, the Jones cartel country club atmosphere, constant Jones boys' radio and tv interviews to provide constant distractions, and the contract distractions that could have been settled out of the public eye way before training camp started.

We must overcome all these factors to try to win consequetive playoff games.

There are no excuses for our team this season. But the Jones boys already have the excuses machine ready to justify another season without a deep playoff run. 24 seasons will make even the best Cowboy fan skeptical. Respect is earned, which is why the national media never respects us. Making a deep playoff run is the only remedy for gaining respect.

"Hope is not a strategy" - Dan McDowell

LACowboysFan1 said:

One more time - what Jerry says publicly is not necessarily what he says privately. Jerry may well all along knew, or wanted, to "set the market" with/for Zeke, I doubt it, but unless we are in the private meetings with Jerry/Stephen, et al, or can read minds, we can't know for sure...

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This is just trying to give Jerry the benefit of the doubt. Which is fine. He’s an exceptional businessman. But at the end of the day, not everybody wins every deal. He did not win this one

mcmvp said:

This thread is about Jerry

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This thread is about Jerry and Stephen talking too much in public. If they had kept mostly tight lipped and not turned this Zeke negotiation into a WWF wrestling event, today they would appear to be much more competent as football front office gurus. Instead of looking like Vince McMahon and family.

Bobhaze said:

This thread is about Jerry and Stephen talking too much in public. If they had kept mostly tight lipped and not turned this Zeke negotiation into a WWF wrestling event, today they would appear to be much more competent as football front office gurus. Instead of looking like Vince McMahon and family.

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That's the Jerry ego, has always had it, will always have it...

Proof said:

They didn’t really set the market though. They basically gave him gurleys deal but got more years out of it. Sure they gave what like 2 million more guaranteed, but for an extra two yrs of control.
Setting the market to me would have been like a 4 yr deal with the same guarantees and a higher AAV

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I think it’s about 5 million guaranteed more. No RB is getting major guaranteed money 8 years into their contract. It’s clear this was all about the guaranteed money.