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It is GLORIOUS for the Cowboys, who now get a cheap look at Dak before deciding to pay him big money next offseason, or not. I, for one, love it.

I too would have liked to see this, but it's not going to play out that way. If and when Zeke comes back, Dallas is going to win games. That's what people care about. Dak doesn't have to play lights out, just lead the team with the higher score. Now if Zeke holds out until week 11...….
 

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Dak should be below Wentz.

All other QBs on this list have been to or won a SB.



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Highest average annual value in NFL history:

Russell Wilson $35.0M
Ben Roethlisberger $34.0M
Jared Goff $33.5M
Aaron Rodgers $33.5M
Carson Wentz $32.0M


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Dak has no business even being considered to be on that list not even close!!

Look for the list that has Tyrod Taylor,Dalton,Rosen,Lamar Jackson, etc etc then you might see a contract signed!
 

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This is so naive, that's the way the game goes with elite rb in the NFL. There's no other way to do it, if he waits until year 5 is completed then his value goes down due to the "miles" on his legs.
There's no "honorable" was to do things because there's no honor in the contracts.

He didn't have to wait for year 5. Instead he could've went for 1 year early and things would've went MUCH smoother.
The reason there's "no honor in the contract" is because Zeke destroyed it. He accepted that as a legal contract and freely signed it as such.
Then 2 years early he purposely breached his contract, flew to Cabo and went on an illegal 1 man strike. THAT'S why there's no honor in the contract. Zeke dishonored his own signature!
By legal rights, Jerry could've hung him out to dry and fined him a lot of money for not showing up for TC like his contract specified, but instead he pampered and defended Zeke's off field stupid activities and suspension, and pampered him again when he held out.
I know you'd like to blame everything else, but breaching that contract was Zeke's baby. Nobody is responsible for Zeke's signature but Zeke.
 
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Highest average annual value in NFL history:

Russell Wilson $35.0M
Ben Roethlisberger $34.0M
Jared Goff $33.5M
Aaron Rodgers $33.5M
Carson Wentz $32.0M


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Dak has no business even being considered to be on that list not even close!!

Look for the list that has Tyrod Taylor,Dalton,Rosen,Lamar Jackson, etc etc then you might see a contract signed!
The piece of pie is getting smaller for Dak. I think he is greedy for turning down the 30 mil.
 

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Goff just reset the QB market with a 4 year, $134M deal. Dak's agent was most likely waiting for this to happen before making a deal with the Cowboys. That's not bad advice.
 

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The piece of pie is getting smaller for Dak. I think he is greedy for turning down the 30 mil.

I've stated it before here and I'll say it again bud ....I highly doubt the FO offered Dak that type of monies no matter what the press say or Jerry.
Honestly and its been happening the last few days there signing the Talent and leaving Dak (As they know he doesn't have the talent or demand to hold-out) to prove it this season.
Well to all Dak-Lovers here let me say the following......Let Dak stick it to them( FO ) and take them to the bank after this coming season! Can he????
We shall see soonest!!!
 

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I think this is closer to Dak.
Indianapolis agreed to terms with recently anointed starting quarterback Jacoby Brissett on a two-year contract worth $30 million, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source. Brissett will earn $20 million guaranteed at signing, Rapoport added.
 

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.I highly doubt the FO offered Dak that type of monies no matter what the press say or Jerry.
You know I think your right. If they did offer that much we would of been hearing how they are getting close in negotiating a new contract.
 

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Interesting banter on 105.3 The Fan. This from Ben and Skin:

Dak's agency is CAA (Creative Artists Agency), which started with Hollywood actors and singers and slowly progressed into the sports world. They have Beyonce, George Clooney, Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman, Matthew McConaughey, etc...you get the point.

They don't negotiate. Period. They go for the throat, full on high-dollar with no waivering.

By that measure, it is very realistic that (1) they did ask for $40 million recently, and (2) they do not want Dak to sign anything now before the market explodes under the new CBA.

That is horrible advice for Dak, who absolutely should have taken that $30 million per year offer. If he doesn't play lights out this season, he could lose tens of millions from this calculated gamble. CAA won't care; they just move on to the next of their thousands of clients.

It is GLORIOUS for the Cowboys, who now get a cheap look at Dak before deciding to pay him big money next offseason, or not. I, for one, love it.

Nobody has an issue paying Dak huge money if his play proves it this year. Likewise, the Cowboys could dodge the proverbial bullet if he doesn't.

Dak is subsidizing his salary nicely with all of his endorsements, but it's not the additional massive signing bonus and salary he's turning down.


From a money standpoint, this is great advice. The QB market is ONLY going up and probably going up fast. Dak is betting in himself and probably understands he is better today then he was a year ago and that this healthy and potent offense is going to take off this year.
 

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You've got it completely backwards

$30M isnt "more than fair" when the market says you're easily worth more than that.
The CowBoys can decide to pay market value for Dak or not, but that doesnt change his market value.
You need to see what market value is and Dak is not a top 10 QB, you promote next guy up gets paid and that is not market value, whats the 15th rated QB market value is the question, it's not $30 million. Jerry may well pay that or more but he would be paying over market value. $20 low to $35 top by QBs down to number 17, Dak can talk top $ when he has a skin on the wall something he has never done at any level. This isn't a knock on Dak but this market value BS is just that BS.
 

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Possible...

Dak is probably nearing the mid point of his career. Romo played 9 seasons?

Dak needs to stack some playoff wins. He is starting to look like Craig Morton.
Morton made it to the SB and a really bad call cost the game, I would take a Morton like performance from Dak no problem we can only hope.
 

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You need to see what market value is and Dak is not a top 10 QB, you promote next guy up gets paid and that is not market value, whats the 15th rated QB market value is the question, it's not $30 million. Jerry may well pay that or more but he would be paying over market value. $20 low to $35 top by QBs down to number 17, Dak can talk top $ when he has a skin on the wall something he has never done at any level. This isn't a knock on Dak but this market value BS is just that BS.

You act as if we dont literally have the market value right in front of our faces.

Both Goff and Wentz got paid this offseason at similiar amounts. Dak is in that grouping. If Dak isnt a top 10 QB than neither are they. But here's the kicker IT DOESNT MATTER. Young QBs on their ascension are going to get paid the same as better QBs on the downside of their careers. It's not a hard concept.

You need to read up on market value, because its not "BS" it's used every day.
 

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You act as if we dont literally have the market value right in front of our faces.

Both Goff and Wentz got paid this offseason at similiar amounts. Dak is in that grouping. If Dak isnt a top 10 QB than neither are they. But here's the kicker IT DOESNT MATTER. Young QBs on their ascension are going to get paid the same as better QBs on the downside of their careers. It's not a hard concept.

You need to read up on market value, because its not "BS" it's used every day.
Check you Dak love at the door, there is no way Dak is a top 10 QB at this point so paying him as one would be BS because he is not a market setter or market value QB.
 

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Check you Dak love at the door, there is no way Dak is a top 10 QB at this point so paying him as one would be BS because he is not a market setter or market value QB.
Check your reading LMAO, because you literally didnt respond to a single thing I said.

Dak is now not a "market value QB". That's definitely a new one I will keep in the annals of 'Can't Believe Someone Actually Posted That'
 

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You act as if we dont literally have the market value right in front of our faces.

Both Goff and Wentz got paid this offseason at similiar amounts. Dak is in that grouping. If Dak isnt a top 10 QB than neither are they. But here's the kicker IT DOESNT MATTER. Young QBs on their ascension are going to get paid the same as better QBs on the downside of their careers. It's not a hard concept.

You need to read up on market value, because its not "BS" it's used every day.
I've been a Dak fan and I agree he should be paid his market value. Personally, I do not want Dallas to be the team to do it, though. That said, if I were Dak, I'd be on a plane to Cabo this morning. The man is grossly underpaid.
 

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I've been a Dak fan and I agree he should be paid his market value. Personally, I do not want Dallas to be the team to do it, though. That said, if I were Dak, I'd be on a plane to Cabo this morning. The man is grossly underpaid.
Agreed.

I would love for his average CAP hits to be around $28M or less. Think we ca. Keep everyone with that and still acquire talent through draft.

If we wait a year, that won't happen. If he signs for $35M+, that won't happen. We need to sign him now, but not at a crazy amount more than Goff and Wentz.
 

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He got terrible advice. Had he held out like Zeke, he'd be banking 40 million per year right now. I'll take our chances with a rookie rb over cooper rush.
 

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Highest average annual value in NFL history:

Russell Wilson $35.0M
Ben Roethlisberger $34.0M
Jared Goff $33.5M
Aaron Rodgers $33.5M
Carson Wentz $32.0M


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5:16 AM - Sep 4, 2019


Dak has no business even being considered to be on that list not even close!!

Look for the list that has Tyrod Taylor,Dalton,Rosen,Lamar Jackson, etc etc then you might see a contract signed!


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