Turns out Zeke had enough leverage

aikemirv · Sep 5, 2019

Zeke only had leverage because Jerry is who he is. He really does love his star players. Good thing Zeke was not in San Diego. They will make every way possible to not pay their players!

aria · Sep 5, 2019

I wonder how sore Jerry is right now, probably walking with a little limp.

birdwells1 · Sep 5, 2019

jday said:
The best deals are one's in which both parties walk away from it thinking they are the winner.

I, for one, think this just so happens to be one of those rare situations where it is in fact a win-win.

I agree, just because Zeke got his money doesn't mean that the Cowboys and us fans lost. We all actually won, our team is at full strength and now we can try to win that 6th Lombardi.

The Quest for Six · Sep 5, 2019

JoeKing said:
He had no leverage, Jerry just caved.

exactly but the last 3 years and 42 million with no guarantees for Zeke so it's not as big of a deal as people think

GhostOfPelluer · Sep 5, 2019

ABQCOWBOY said:
None that either side would ever admit to but, Jerry and Stephen had already talked about what kind of deal they might be looking at, for Zeke.

Why do you have to insist on winners and losers is what I am wondering? Both one and both lost. That's a good negotiation. As a Cowboy fan, why can't you get behind that? Why does it have to be about Zeke and not about team?

I didn't say anything about winners and losers (granted my links may have alluded to such). I said he had some leverage, used it, and now is making more money this season than he would have (to go along with better long-term security). Sounds like he accomplished his goal and I am willing to concede that he possibly could have done so without holding out, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that at this point.

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

Everyone walked away with what they wanted. Zeke got paid and Jerry has security and outs in the contract. Who cares about who had leverage and who didn't? Everyone is happy.

The Quest for Six · Sep 5, 2019

Cowboys22 said:
I laughed at those who thought he had no leverage. He was a 4th round pick who has proven to be among the best at his position so the team wants to retain him at least through his prime. The team may like Pollard a lot but thinking he can replace Zeke as a rookie is foolish. The team thinks they are stacked and have a good shot to win it all. Not having Zeke diminishes those chances greatly. You put all those things together and you have Zeke's leverage. The teams wants him for all 16 games this year and doesn't want to ruin the relationship for the future so they will come to the table and get something done. It was that simple.

4th overall pick actually........ but was Zeke not playing against the Rams in the playoff game last year when he couldn't muster 50 yards!

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

GhostOfPelluer said:
I didn't say anything about winners and losers (granted my links may have alluded to such). I said he had some leverage, used it, and now is making more money this season than he would have (to go along with better long-term security). Sounds like he accomplished his goal and I am willing to concede that he possibly could have done so without holding out, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that at this point.

This entire thread alluded to it. I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to accomplish, other than starting a pissing match where one doesn't exist. Both sides are happy and got what they wanted. Move on.

darthseinfeld · Sep 5, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
I always said so. There would have been no negotiations if he didn't.

I was told I dont know what leverage means

GhostOfPelluer · Sep 5, 2019

BoysfaninVegas said:
This entire thread alluded to it. I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to accomplish, other than starting a pissing match where one doesn't exist. Both sides are happy and got what they wanted. Move on.

There was a weeks long pissing match about whether or not Zeke had any leverage and/or was stupid for holding out. I was just providing the exclamation point to finish it off. You don't have to like it or read it or respond to it if you so choose. I'm happy as a clam at high tide that he's back regardless of contract (it's not my money).

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 5, 2019

GhostOfPelluer said:
I didn't say anything about winners and losers (granted my links may have alluded to such). I said he had some leverage, used it, and now is making more money this season than he would have (to go along with better long-term security). Sounds like he accomplished his goal and I am willing to concede that he possibly could have done so without holding out, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that at this point.

Your story, you tell it.

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

GhostOfPelluer said:
There was a weeks long pissing match about whether or not Zeke had any leverage and/or was stupid for holding out. I was just providing the exclamation point to finish it off. You don't have to like it or read it or respond to it if you so choose. I'm happy as a clam at high tide that he's back regardless of contract (it's not my money).

So I was right. All you wanted to do was throw it in their faces to feel better about yourself, even though both sides got what they wanted. Got it.

darthseinfeld · Sep 5, 2019

jday said:
For all of those who think Zeke won:

What you seem to be missing is that Zeke still has to complete the 2 years he had on his original rookie contract. When you put the two contracts and the corresponding money together, it comes out to 8 years and a little less than 103 million dollars. If you divide 103 by 8 you get 12.875, which is right in line with exactly what the Jones boys wanted to pay.

But of course the agent wants the world to think Zeke won the negotiation because after all that's how he gets more talent to sign with him and his agency.

They can both claim victory.
-Zeke beat Gurley in guarenteed money.

-The Cowboys have alot of contract control over Zeke.

-The extension that was signed was more per year than what Gurley is getting

-The AAV the Cowboys are paying Elliott over the time they have him locked up is less than Gurley.

But whats really important for both side is that 1) Elliott got his guarentee's 2) Dallas can easily get out of the contract when Elliott is 28/29 (cant remember which)

GhostOfPelluer · Sep 5, 2019

BoysfaninVegas said:
So I was right. All you wanted to do was throw it in their faces to feel better about yourself, even though both sides got what they wanted. Got it.

Lol. One of the two people in this exchange are salty, and it's not me.

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

GhostOfPelluer said:
Lol. One of the two people in this exchange are salty, and it's not me.

Never salty. By all means, continue with your pissing match, Sir.

GhostOfPelluer · Sep 5, 2019

BoysfaninVegas said:
Never salty. By all means, continue with your pissing match, Sir.

Does irony mean anything to you?

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

GhostOfPelluer said:
Does irony mean anything to you?

Yeah. It's the word "Iron" with a "y" at the end of it. Did I pass?

Flamma · Sep 5, 2019

aikemirv said:
Zeke only had leverage because Jerry is who he is. He really does love his star players. Good thing Zeke was not in San Diego. They will make every way possible to not pay their players!

Zeke had leverage because Jerry and company thinks the Cowboys are a Super Bowl contender now. You can't bring market value up when the RB holds all the cards. Elite backs that are a big part of a team's offense are going to get paid more. But only if the team is looking to win now.

Vegas_Cowboy · Sep 5, 2019

darthseinfeld said:
They can both claim victory.
-Zeke beat Gurley in guarenteed money.

-The Cowboys have alot of contract control over Zeke.

-The extension that was signed was more per year than what Gurley is getting

-The AAV the Cowboys are paying Elliott over the time they have him locked up is less than Gurley.

But whats really important for both side is that 1) Elliott got his guarentee's 2) Dallas can easily get out of the contract when Elliott is 28/29 (cant remember which)

Which is all 99% of the people not happy with Zeke holding out (including me) wanted in the first place. We all knew Zeke was going to get paid but under what conditions was the main issue. Everyone walked away with what they wanted.

pansophy · Sep 5, 2019

kskboys said:
No, it doesn't.

The contract is what was offered weeks ago. Z finally agreed.

I think they just added the last two years so Zeke
could say he was the highest paid when he isn’t in terms of actual dollars he will see.

Turns out Zeke had enough leverage

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