Everyone has it wrong about Garrett

Rockport said:

Your hate is blinding to you what’s been going on right in front of you. No one said he doesn’t have issues but he’s addressed those with improvement in clock management and conservative play. Do you remember last year when they went for it on 4th and short so many times? He hasn’t had clock management issues in the last 2-3 years. He was 2016 Coach of the Year, he’s had some bad luck with the “catch” and key injuries, suspensions but with all of that he’s kept the team together and now has a team with enough talent to go a long way.

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First why is it you have to label when one's view is not yours? I can assure you I hate no one that said Garrett is in his 13th season and with the total ineptitude he has shown he should have been fired years ago, the simple fact is Jerry hand picked him and to fire him would be admitting he made a huge mistake. Did you the see the lost on look on his face again when he tried to challenge the call on Sunday, total confusion sad oh so sad. Jason Garrett is a game changer alright unfortunately it's for the other teams benefit. 2 playoff wins in 9 years boy that's coaching them up. Jason Garrett is one of the greatest examples of it's not what you know it's who you know. Your view on many matters related to the DC is truly twister. After 13 years he still has problems with simple tasks says enough in my mind that he should of been long gone years ago.

Brax said:

First why is it you have to label when one's view is not yours? I can assure you I hate no one that said Garrett is in his 13th season and with the total ineptitude he has shown he should have been fired years ago, the simple fact is Jerry hand picked him and to fire him would be admitting he made a huge mistake. Did you the see the lost on look on his face again when he tried to challenge the call on Sunday, total confusion sad oh so sad. Jason Garrett is a game changer alright unfortunately it's for the other teams benefit. 2 playoff wins in 9 years boy that's coaching them up. Jason Garrett is one of the greatest examples of it's not what you know it's who you know. You view on many matters related to the DC is truly twister. After 13 years he still has problems with simple tasks says enough in my mind that he should of been long gone years ago.

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Jerry has hand picked every HC. Claiming the reason Garrett is still here because Jerry hand picked him? Which HC did he not pick?

Doomsday101 said:

Jerry has hand picked every HC. Claiming the reason Garrett is still here because Jerry hand picked him? Which HC did he not pick?

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Jerry has call JG his Landry, maybe I should of said anointed one. Call it what ever you want JG is here because Jerry hand selected him for long term HC duties and he doesn't want to admit he was wrong.

Pokefan1 said:

I truly enjoy reading comments about the players and coaches. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What I do not enjoy reading about are the insults between posters. If I wanted that the Iggles board is full of that. Please be be respectful of each other’s opinion. From a fan of over 50 years.

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What? A wise post from a rookie?

Congratulations.

Now go and get me another beer.

Brax said:

Jerry has call JG his Landry, maybe I should of said anointed one. Call it what ever you want JG is here because Jerry hand selected him for long term HC duties and he doesn't want to admit he was wrong.

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Jerry did pick him and he is no longer under contract after this season and is coaching for his job. 2015 I would have fired him then in 2016 he takes a rookie 4th rd pick QB and advances to post season with a 13-3 record wins coach of the year and you think Jerry would have fired him then? I don't Garrett job is safe I think how this team performs this year and how far they go will determine the outcome.

The NFL has changed so much in the last 10 years and Garrett just doesn’t know how to or refuses to change with it. He only knows what he learned in Dallas in the 90s and it’s so boring, outdated, predictable, and ineffective in today’s NFL. He has been stripped of all his product on the field responsibilities and only real contribution now is trying to manage the games which he also sucks at. It is time for him to be moved upstairs to the front office. I give him credit for one thing and I don’t even know if he deserves it. He has been the head coach during this period of time when the organization seems to be operating much better than in the past. They are drafting well, building through the draft, only signing reasonable free agents, managing the salary cap much better, and seem to be building a cohesive team that likes playing for and with each other. How much of that is due to Garrett, I don’t know. If any of it is, then carve out a front office job for life for him and let someone who can game plan and execute modern schemes and knows how to manage the game take the reigns on the sidelines. Do that and watch the 25 years of futility disappear. They are on the right path now. They just need a better guide to get them where they want to go. Garrett helped get them on the right path but is leading them in circles.

He iced his own kicker!!!!!

FuzzyLumpkins said:

Now tell us who was on the OL.

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They had a solid line. Flozell Adams, Gurode, Free to name a few I believe.

Garrett inherited and 11-5 playoff team from the year before that had some injuries to start out the season.

Garrett was also much to blame for that poor start as his play calling and gameplanning was horrendous.

Without Romo the Cowboys went 5-3 down the stretch. Double 5-3 and thats 10-6. So anyone saying it was a 1-7 team loses that argument straight out.

Garrett has some strengths as a coach for sure. I do want to see how well he makes halftime adjustments in tough games. That's where he has not done well. Let's see what happens this season.

Doomsday101 said:

Jerry did pick him and he is no longer under contract after this season and is coaching for his job. 2015 I would have fired him then in 2016 he takes a rookie 4th rd pick QB and advances to post season with a 13-3 record wins coach of the year and you think Jerry would have fired him then? I don't Garrett job is safe I think how this team performs this year and how far they go will determine the outcome.

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agree with you, I looked at 2016 as a in spite of JG, but after 2017 should of been gone,just like after 2015, we shall see this year, I believe JG is a big problem and if this isn't at least a SB appearance he should be gone, have a great week.

Rockport said:

You’re right but they’ve built it based on the kind of team Garrett wanted to build.

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Come on man! It's been well documented here how bad of a coach Garrett was his first 3-4 years. He mad a ton of blunders that cost us games...real blunders... and Jerry straight out said that they needed to keep him because he needed to see something from being a "coach in training." They also have brought in multiple Coordinators and took his responsibilities from him in order for this thing to work well. The FO has done a bang up job getting things done, not Garrett. If you want the real positive on JG..it is that the players like him and he is a good "figure head" for the team we have. But acting like he has been calling shots and just got the short end of the stick to start in disingenuous. I've taken to JG a little more over the years but I don't think it is as a coach but more a constant

Garrett is learning on the job, hopefully he's close to the finished product, he has made improvement. This is a all or nothing season, he needs to at least get us to the dance, barring injury.
That said, his first 6 seasons should have been learning at a lower level. Anybody who denies that is, well, clueless at best.

TexasFrog said:

Come on man! It's been well documented here how bad of a coach Garrett was his first 3-4 years. He mad a ton of blunders that cost us games...real blunders... and Jerry straight out said that they needed to keep him because he needed to see something from being a "coach in training." They also have brought in multiple Coordinators and took his responsibilities from him in order for this thing to work well. The FO has done a bang up job getting things done, not Garrett. If you want the real positive on JG..it is that the players like him and he is a good "figure head" for the team we have. But acting like he has been calling shots and just got the short end of the stick to start in disingenuous. I've taken to JG a little more over the years but I don't think it is as a coach but more a constant

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Well documented here?! Thanks for the laugh. That was a good one. My coworkers ended up laughing!

Rockport said:

Well documented here?! Thanks for the laugh. That was a good one. My coworkers ended up laughing!

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I’m not sure what is funny?! Facts?

He had massive time management issues! He blew at least 2 games each in his first seasons with play calling and time management. He was outcoaxhed in every conceivable way in end of season do or die Games. Jimmy talked about it along with every pro analysis person out there. Why would the owner admit to this? You and your coworkers need help.

TexasFrog said:

I’m not sure what is funny?! Facts?

He had massive time management issues! He blew at least 2 games each in his first seasons with play calling and time management. He was outcoaxhed in every conceivable way in end of season do or die Games. Jimmy talked about it along with every pro analysis person out there. Why would the owner admit to this? You and your coworkers need help.

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I guess you didn’t read or comprehend my post. I addressed the time management issues he had early on.

Rockport said:

I guess you didn’t read or comprehend my post. I addressed the time management issues he had early on.

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Umm you said there were bumps along the way...they were more than bumps and he was already here before that. And has his owner call him out. He was never a good coach his first 3-4 years. You can say he’s improved, learned etc and I’ll go with that but he lost games to put us in the playoffs. Read this quote from Jerry in another presser. He also has had the FO build around his weaknesses in 10 years to have his one strength shine.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...son-garrett-for-long-term-head-coach-contract

"It should be a frustration for me to be sitting here with Jason Garrett having been the head coach for three and a half years and having been here (seven) years and be 8-8 the last three years," Jones said. "So I'm just saying that's a careful evaluation. Does that mean I don't want Jason? I think I want us to have the opportunity and that's why he's staying, to have the opportunity to benefit from this experience over the period of time."

Basically, he should have learned from his years here so let’s get the benefit of it.

I personally hope year 10 is it!

TexasFrog said:

Umm you said there were bumps along the way...they were more than bumps and he was already here before that. And has his owner call him out. He was never a good coach his first 3-4 years. You can say he’s improved, learned etc and I’ll go with that but he lost games to put us in the playoffs. Read this quote from Jerry in another presser. He also has had the FO build around his weaknesses in 10 years to have his one strength shine.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...son-garrett-for-long-term-head-coach-contract

"It should be a frustration for me to be sitting here with Jason Garrett having been the head coach for three and a half years and having been here (seven) years and be 8-8 the last three years," Jones said. "So I'm just saying that's a careful evaluation. Does that mean I don't want Jason? I think I want us to have the opportunity and that's why he's staying, to have the opportunity to benefit from this experience over the period of time."

Basically, he should have learned from his years here so let’s get the benefit of it.

I personally hope year 10 is it!

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He’s certainly in a make or break year and should be.

Culture is not the key to winning in this league which is why I question Garrett's overall value. And I personally hate the fact he never takes blame.

ABQCOWBOY said:

This is a bait thread. The "Listless" team Garrett "inherited" that was apparently devoid of talent, had 6 Pro Bowl players on it, in 2010. In 2009, it had 9. In 2011, the first full year under Garrett, it had two. This team was not devoid of talent when he took it over.

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Exactly right. Every time a fanboy tries to defend Garrett, that's the first excuse they go to. The talentless team he inherited. Uh... That talentless team was a superbowl contender the year before, and like you said, full of pro bowl caliber players. Wade lost the team, but there was certainly talent on it.

And the biggest thing of all, was that Garrett started out with a franchise QB that was just hitting his stride. Not to mention HOF caliber players on the defense that were also either young or in their prime. Other coaches would kill to step in to the situation that Garrett was lucky enough to be given. Almost all new coaches are there because the team was talent devoid and the last coach was fired for it. That was not the case here.

Also, Garrett sandbagging Wade on offense was a help in getting him pushed out the door. Funny how the offense changed almost over night.

Rockport said:

You have a looooooong track record of not knowing what you’re talking about, soooooooo.........

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Rocky swings and connects!