Was it Dak, or was it really Kellen Moore?

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I'm a fan of Elliott and think he's elite, but we did not lean on him one bit. Pollard could have done the same. That's how dominant the passing game was.
I think it is fair to say Elliott more than did his part making the Giants key on him every time since playaction was an undeniable element in the dominant passing attack. There is more to a great running back like Elliott than simply accumulating a lot of rushing yards.
 

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It doesn't matter who the OC is if Dak can't make the plays and he made them. Can't believe there are some that won't give him any credit. Reminds me of his rookie year where no matter how well he played he was getting bashed by some. If he plays bad I'll say it but yesterday Dak played great. If he plays like that the rest of the year I'll be happy.

It would be naive and silly to think a QB is going to play like that every game.
 

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I think everyone deserves credit. Most of all the addition of talent. We now have Cooper from the onset, Cobb an excellent acquisition and return of Witten not to mention return of Frederick and healthy OL.

The credit always begins with the talent. Dak has proved to elevate his game with a greater supporting cast. Moore called a good game as well. And some credit needs to a bottom tier opponent.
 

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I saw a few bad throws, that were behind the WR's but they did a good job adjusting, tighter coverage and we could of seen picks.

Dak had a good, not great game, I'll give him that.

Now was it a product of Kellen Moore? WR's were open and some of the passes were easy. But he made them. I'd give it another 2 weeks before going Dak crazy. Jerry, don't rush to sign him.

Part of it is Giants being dog doo doo

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The answer is both. It was both Dak and Kellen Moore doing their jobs well.
 

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I saw a few bad throws, that were behind the WR's but they did a good job adjusting, tighter coverage and we could of seen picks.

Dak had a good, not great game, I'll give him that.

Now was it a product of Kellen Moore? WR's were open and some of the passes were easy. But he made them. I'd give it another 2 weeks before going Dak crazy. Jerry, don't rush to sign him.

Part of it is Giants being dog doo doo

It was all three. They are finally running a modern offense and Dak definitely looks different. He looks to be in total command in the huddle and appears more confident than he ever has. I’ve been down on him for the past two years since he seemed to regress from his rookie year but I saw a totally different player on Sunday. Some of his throws were a tad bit behind the WRs but they were catchable. For the last two years, those throws aren’t catchable. And yes, part of it was the Giants just aren’t very good. It won’t be that easy most of the time.
 

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Ridiculous. I say this every year, how much football do you guys really watch outside of the Cowboys???? From the college ranks to the pros, QBs don’t make every throw a perfect throw. The best miss throws, put them slightly behind, put them too far in front, every single game.
 

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good, not great? Some of ya'll standards are amazing. 400 plus yards, 3 tds, perfect QB rating, and you still say "meh"?. Moores playcalling was great, as well as the play from Dak. Doesn't matter what plays you call if the QB can't execute them
Everyone should give Dak his kudos regardless of what side of the fence your one, it doesn't get much better than Sunday, let's see if that was a one off or if he can build on it.
 

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It was all three. They are finally running a modern offense and Dak definitely looks different. He looks to be in total command in the huddle and appears more confident than he ever has. I’ve been down on him for the past two years since he seemed to regress from his rookie year but I saw a totally different player on Sunday. Some of his throws were a tad bit behind the WRs but they were catchable. For the last two years, those throws aren’t catchable. And yes, part of it was the Giants just aren’t very good. It won’t be that easy most of the time.
I feel the same way esp about the last two years. On here saying he regressed or in my case he's been average since his rookie year equals you hate him or worse to some of these fanatics smh. For me I think its worse that you have grown men stanning Dak like some teenagers do to a popular boy band.
 

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Both.. Kellen called plays that got guys wide open and Dak dropped the passes into them.

It was a near perfect game on both ends.
Actually it was Kellen calling the plays...and telling Dak where to throw the ball via headset. But you will never convince people of that. That's why he is on the sidelines instead of the pressbox.
 

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As someone pointed out to me on another Forum earlier which I overlooked don't forget Jon kitna coaching Dak look at the Success he had later on in his career with Dallas when he filled in for Romo
 

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I think it is fair to say Elliott more than did his part making the Giants key on him every time since playaction was an undeniable element in the dominant passing attack. There is more to a great running back like Elliott than simply accumulating a lot of rushing yards.
I bet the 1st offensive play is a straight up run up the gut against the Commanders.
I can just see it, whether it works, or not.
It shows the DC this team is not all about deception, unless it's about deception.
 

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I feel the same way esp about the last two years. On here saying he regressed or in my case he's been average since his rookie year equals you hate him or worse to some of these fanatics smh. For me I think its worse that you have grown men stanning Dak like some teenagers do to a popular boy band.
It's your presentation.
 

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It's your presentation.
Not at all. People like to read comments in tones and that I have nothing to do with that. IRL nobody seems to have a problem and to about talking about things the same way. People online have a tendency to be more sensitive and think things are an attack on them compared to IRL having these same convos. At the end of the day nobody cares about the next person like that and that goes for others towards me as well.
 

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Actually it was Kellen calling the plays...and telling Dak where to throw the ball via headset. But you will never convince people of that. That's why he is on the sidelines instead of the pressbox.

Yes Moore is calling the play then as they come up to the line of scrimmage Dak has to make adjustment and did on many occasions. Play calling is important no doubt but it still requires Dak going out understanding the offense, under standing what the defense is doing between man and zone, blitz or not and based on that make the correct adjustment then execute it
 

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The Good: It was a great all around game. The team was prepared, coached and players executed the plays to perfection. It was great confidence builder, and the offense was a blast to watch. No more stale offense, now it looks like the greatest show on turf part 2.

The big question: Was the offense really that good or are the GIANTS really that bad??? The Cowboys destroyed a bad team like the should of. New York and Eli looked like a car wreck from the very start. When the coach puts in the backup QB, you no they have called mercy. I hope to see more of the same this week against another bad team the Commanders. Its only one game, but one heck of game to build on. Great team win, executed to perfection.... and I have changed my mind......PAY THE MAN......DAK is the real deal
 

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The Good: It was a great all around game. The team was prepared, coached and players executed the plays to perfection. It was great confidence builder, and the offense was a blast to watch. No more stale offense, now it looks like the greatest show on turf part 2.

The big question: Was the offense really that good or are the GIANTS really that bad??? The Cowboys destroyed a bad team like the should of. New York and Eli looked like a car wreck from the very start. When the coach puts in the backup QB, you no they have called mercy. I hope to see more of the same this week against another bad team the Commanders. Its only one game, but one heck of game to build on. Great team win, executed to perfection.... and I have changed my mind......PAY THE MAN......DAK is the real deal

True, but scheme and execution are still a priority. Blowouts tend to only happen if one team is playing very good and the other team plays bad but you still have to go out and execute and play great for the blowout. Dallas has been known to play down to poor teams and end up in a dog fight, Sunday Cowboys were executing like a well oiled machine
 

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Everyone should give Dak his kudos regardless of what side of the fence your one, it doesn't get much better than Sunday, let's see if that was a one off or if he can build on it.

I mean he had a perfect passing rating. He can't really build on that. He's not going to be that efficient every game. No QB is. But we don't need him to be perfect to win, though.

What would be nice is if the defense can start helping and getting some turnovers, maybe scores themselves and getting off the field quicker to flip the field. Quit asking the offense to drive 75 or more yards every time.
 

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"Any back could run behind this line."

"Any QB would look good with Moore."


When personal agendas are more important to you than your (allegedly) favorite team having success. :rolleyes:
 
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