What's so good about Xavier Woods?

SoupcanSam

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Kinda like the offense....oh that's right, they had a really stellar day. Some folks went overboard on the O and on the D. I think folks are just excited. I know I am.

But we are talking about an upgrade over linehan. It cant get any lower than linehan. I dont believe there is anything lower than he!

Imo what you see with the offense now is what you'll get win or lose. If linehan could half way succeed in this league then Kellen will be just fine.

The defense on the other hand was just rusty. They will come around.
 

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I disagree. How many 1st rounders have we invested on in offense? Tyron a top 10 pick, Zeke a top 5 pick, Fredericks a 1st rounder, Zach Martin a top 15 pick, Cooper a 1st round pick....anytime we got a top tier pick it was spent on offense. I'm not complaining about that it just what it is. The defense had Claiborne who was a top pick they traded up for and LVE who was like the 19th pick. And if you want to add Taco as a late 1st rounder then you have that too but there's no comparisons in regards to where the value is at. They've chosen to go cheaper on defense and get solid value out of their picks.

I don't think the investment in draft picks is quite as lopsided on the offensive side as it may appear. Part of the perception may come from the fact it has been more successful on the offensive side.

In the last 10 years they have invested 6 first rounders into the offense (Dez, Frederick, Smith, Martin, Cooper and Zeke) and 4 first rounders on defense (LVE, Jones, Taco, Claiborne). In the second round over the last 10 years 8 picks were used on defense and only 2 on offense, and two of those defensive players were picked with the 34th overall pick - #2 in the second round (Jaylon Smith and D-Lawrence).
 

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Still like to see all22 on t.gurleys 45 yard Td run
Why couldn't the deep safety even effect the run near the goal line
 

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I don't think the investment in draft picks is quite as lopsided on the offensive side as it may appear. Part of the perception may come from the fact it has been more successful on the offensive side.

In the last 10 years they have invested 6 first rounders into the offense (Dez, Frederick, Smith, Martin, Cooper and Zeke) and 4 first rounders on defense (LVE, Jones, Taco, Claiborne). In the second round over the last 10 years 8 picks were used on defense and only 2 on offense, and two of those defensive players were picked with the 34th overall pick - #2 in the second round (Jaylon Smith and D-Lawrence).

Yeah but it becomes far more skewed when you factor in what 1st round picks they've used. Late 1st rounders are nothing like top 15 picks. Just doesn't compare. Clairborne is the one true premiere pick they used on defense.
 

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I completely agree with you. However, Martin was a 16th and technically we only spent the 28th pick on Cooper (I know he was drafted higher). If you are going to include Cooper and Frederick (28th and 31st), you kind of should bring up Byron, Jaylon, and Demarcus since the last two were both 34s and Byron Jones was a 27th.

That said you are correct about our spending. This year we have $88m allocated to offense (9th in the league) vs. $62m on defense (23rd in the league).

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/defense/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offense/

That Cooper pick ended up ebbing the 28th pick but that pick was on the verge of being a top 10 pick prior to him getting to Dallas. And like I said above...to me 34 and 27th overall picks.......its nothing like 16th or the 4th or the 9th.Once again I'm not complaining about it. They've hit on their picks. My stance is based on resources offense should be superior to the defense.
 

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Seriously? He absolutely bailed out J Smith and LVE all day. Can't you guys enjoy a victory along the way to "the march to the Superbowl?" 9 solo tackles are pretty good if you ask me.


And 9 solo tackles can also indicate the front seven aren't doing their job...
 

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Yeah but it becomes far more skewed when you factor in what 1st round picks they've used. Late 1st rounders are nothing like top 15 picks. Just doesn't compare. Clairborne is the one true premiere pick they used on defense.

You make it sound as if we have had a lot of top 15 picks to use and have been ignoring defense with them, when we've actually only had 3 top 15 picks over the last 10 years, and 2 were used on offense and 1 on defense.
 

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To me late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders aren't premiere picks. Yes you should hit on those guys but there's a big difference between a 2nd round pick and the 4th overall pick in the draft.
I mean the $$ is definitely skewed so you right on that front
 

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You make it sound as if we have had a lot of top 15 picks to use and have been ignoring defense with them, when we've actually only had 3 top 15 picks over the last 10 years, and 2 were used on offense and 1 on defense.
I think if anything, we do a better job finding offensive talent.
 

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I think if anything, we do a better job finding offensive talent.

That's really my take as well. Sure we've used a few more 1st rounders on offense than defense, but a 6-4 difference over a decade isn't big. But we have also used more 2nd rounders on defense than offense by a wide margin (8-2), and 2 of those 2nd rounders were taken just 2 places after the end of the 1st round.

It equates to pretty equal distribution of high draft picks, but the perception is skewed by the fact Dez, Zeke, Tyron, Frederick, Martin, and Cooper are so highly successful. Still, over the same decade, with Byron Jones and LVE being taken in the first round, and Sean Lee, DeMarcus Lawrence and Jaylon Smith being taken in the 2nd round, the defensive side doesn't have a bad track record.

In all, we've just had a few more busts on the defensive side, which is something different than whether we have put the draft resources into the defensive side.
 

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He plays a last line of defense style with regards to tackling. Fans don't like that style.
    • It means stay in control.
    • It often means forcing ball carries back inside towards other defenders vs making the tackle.

It also means when the other guys miss tackles or get blocked he has to step up and make solo tackles which he had to do and succeeded multiple times at.

i can recall him doing it in the middle of the field and outside the hashes and then somebody comes in and says he cannot tackle? Like I said they must have zero idea of what they are watching.
 

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When he tackled Barkley with his head and caused that fumble, I was positive that he injured his neck or spine. I had flashbacks of Ryan Shazier. Barkley is no joke he's very lucky to be walking after that play.
 

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Seems like this recent spell of good luck has rocketed our requirements to higher levels of expectations!

Pound for pound and at his cost, we're fortunate to have Xavier. His skills have been just fine, imho. o_O
 
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I thought Woods played a good game. This is his 3rd year and hope to see him make a bigger impact on defense.
 

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It also means when the other guys miss tackles or get blocked he has to step up and make solo tackles which he had to do and succeeded multiple times at.

i can recall him doing it in the middle of the field and outside the hashes and then somebody comes in and says he cannot tackle? Like I said they must have zero idea of what they are watching.

What I can never understand is why people that don't know what they don't know.

I can look at impressionist artwork and know that I don't know much about it.
 
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