No Such Thing as Bad Publicity (Linehan)

BooBooBear said:

Every article I've read after the Cowboy Giant game has in some way or 'nother denigrated Linehan while praising Moore.

If another team hired him, I'm sure the fan base would revolt.

But what about the FO's? Does this (99.9% negative) publicity remind them that he's available and maybe some will consider hiring him? Or is this harming his chances of ever working in football again?

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Nevermind that nonsense. Our OC before Linehan is now the offensive lines coach and assisted head coach to the team we are about to play. If KM really is all that he is advertised to be, he will do a good job keeping that opponent on their heels backing up and giving up points all day.

Remember the Cowboys offense had a great game last season against the Jaguars.

Let's see if the current offense can remain prolific for a few to several more games this season.

yimyammer said:

No way in hell!

He'd be too busy sucking down & enjoying that sweet chai to give any damns about Linehan

Do you even Chai bro?

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i'll Chai till I Die

Seven said:

Maybe he doesn't want to coach.

Sure he's set financially.

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He could join one of the networks as a talking head no qualification needed

stasheroo said:

I think he’s finished. Exposed for how little he was able to do with the clear player talent he had.

His own buddy in Garrett had to fire him.

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I thought Jones & Jones fired him?

Linehan will be valuable on some team somewhere, but probably only as a WR or TE coach.

I find it funny that some people hate the guys so much they just make up agenda's to drive about him. Look at me I was right about him, and since he isn't coaching now, that proves I was right.. some of the most stupid logic I have ever heard or read. Pathetic really.

As much as some of you want to bash this guy, you do not know if any team contacted him or not. You do not know what he wants to do with his future. You do not know what his conversations were with his family and deciding what he wants to do moving forward. He may never coach again. NFL teams might feel the same way some of you do and it's over for him, that COULD be the case but you don't know that, you simply want to scream "look at me, I was right". Sad really.

But my own personal feelings on him is that he is going to have a hard time being a coordinator in the NFL again. Not because I think he sucks but because his type of O really needs a good veteran QB to operate, which is why he was brought in , to work with Romo. The college game has just changed how QB are taught and coached that having an O that relies on reading the D, sight adjustments by the WR and playing against the leverage of the D and a QB that can understand all that, process that quickly and get the ball to the right guy quickly is becoming more and more rare. . I think he will coach again if he wants to but it will be more of a position coach.

Perhaps Linehan doesn't want another coaching job. Retired now.

Tommy said:

Cool story!
So your saying the reason for Linehan calling a predictable offense and not using motion and more play action is because Garrett wouldn’t let him?

And he would actually like to shut down Moore from keeping defenses on their heels like last Sunday but Jones told him not to?

Maybe Linehan will get another job when everyone finds out everything was all Garrett’s fault.

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You have great reading comprehension man because that is exactly what I said. Here is the deal, I guess you missed it, but it came out in the press that Jerry did indeed make sure that Kellen knew that he was taking charge of the offense, and to take it a step further, Jerry actually even said to Kellen, if anyone interferes to let him know. There is no doubt in my mind that Jerry had seen enough of waffling relationship between Jason and Linehan.

I think you aren't understanding the point I was trying to make in regards to the differences in the dynamic. Linehan was definitely having to walk the line and stay true to Garrets playbook and didn't have the leeway to rock the boat so to speak, whereas because of the playoff loss the story and dynamic has completely changed. Call it timing or whatever you want, but Kellen was given keys, and this was most likely forced on Garrett. Look, we all think Garrett is a puppet right? He was a puppet before with too much offensive input! Now the Puppet has been castrated! Jerry realizes that Garrett is very good at motivating and keeping his team focused so he is now just a cheerleader basically. At least now we might have an actual chance to improve, but I'm still concerned about Marinelli's archaic philosophies.

BooBooBear said:

Every article I've read after the Cowboy Giant game has in some way or 'nother denigrated Linehan while praising Moore.

If another team hired him, I'm sure the fan base would revolt.

But what about the FO's? Does this (99.9% negative) publicity remind them that he's available and maybe some will consider hiring him? Or is this harming his chances of ever working in football again?

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Moore cost Linehan money on performance and philosophy. Hard to see any NFL team hiring him as an OC.

Any fan base would revolt. The optics would be better taking a guy from college.

Interesting to see Linehan's career stomped by Linehan's Guy. That has surely occurred to him.

..I heard UPS is hiring. ..

Legend said:

Remember the Cowboys offense had a great game last season against the Jaguars.

Let's see if the current offense can remain prolific for a few to several more games this season.

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Even then, you never felt like it was the play calling. Just throwing darts. This seems like there's a method at least. A reason to call certain plays in accordance to what the D is showing... finally!!! Love the movement. love the idea of hurry up to gauge the D. A young smart OC combined with a young offense. I'm sure there will be some rough outings, but after 1 week he's already miles ahead.

johneric8 said:

Here is my opinion... Linehan was being watched by Garrett and also held back by Garrett. If you think for a minute that linehan had the same kind of leeway that Moore does I think your off base. I think with Moore, Garrett has been forced and stripped of his duties in regards of keeping his thumb on the coordinators and the job they do. Finally we're getting to see an offensive coordinator that has freedom where as in the past they really didn't. Linehan operated with different rules. Having said that I don't think linehan is a great coordinator I think his time has passed, but lets be honest with ourselves here, Garrett is coaching for his life here and has been told not to interfere by jerry. Linehan did not have those circumstances.

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true, and the only reason moore is here is due to Linehan.
Also Linehan may not want another job right now, you know vacation time! These guys make million dollar salarys, so they can take time
off if they want to.
I will also say that detroit was better when they had linehan.
I think linehan set it all up for Kellen to become a coach, and is why he brought him along to dallas, and helped him get the qb coach job.
It was all leading to kellen getting a OC job here or elsewhere. He probably recommended kellen for OC.
From what I read Jason had wanted to be OC again, but jones went with kellen and made the statement about no interference from JG.
That insinuated that JG had interfered with linehan.

DandyDon52 said:

true, and the only reason moore is here is due to Linehan.
Also Linehan may not want another job right now, you know vacation time! These guys make million dollar salarys, so they can take time
off if they want to.
I will also say that detroit was better when they had linehan.
I think linehan set it all up for Kellen to become a coach, and is why he brought him along to dallas, and helped him get the qb coach job.
It was all leading to kellen getting a OC job here or elsewhere. He probably recommended kellen for OC.
From what I read Jason had wanted to be OC again, but jones went with kellen and made the statement about no interference from JG.
That insinuated that JG had interfered with linehan.

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Precisely! I'm not sure Linehan could get job right now as OC quite honestly, but whos to say.. Even if Detroit was better with Linehan lets not forget the megatron was there as well which undoubtedly helps a ton right?
I'm happy you reiterated what I was saying about the Garrett interference in regards to linehan, because this is precisely what I heard and was trying to convey. I have a friend that works closely with the organization as well and he also echoed that it was common knowledge that after the end of last year Garrett was told to back off by Jerry and Stephan and trust in a new way of doing things regarding the offense. I think what happened was that Linehan and Garrett weren't working toward the same goals and we're each walking on eggshells with the front office. So in essence, neither Garrett or Linehan we're taking any real steps for change out of fear.

Garrett is exactly what we've all thought he was all along, he is a well spoken puppet whom is gifted at reaching players and getting the most out of them. I honestly believe that if Garrett is only in charge of motivation and some management than he can be a good motivator style coach, but if we're letting him interfere with adjustments by our coordinators than will have the same type of negative outcome each year. Garrett is way too stubborn and set in his ways, perhaps he is seeing his own faults and is embracing his stripped down role.

Future said:

Idk, there are too many posts to quote.

But, still, too much of the offensive problems are being attributed to Linehan, not JG. People forget that Linehan did a complete 180 from the way he called plays in DET when he arrived. It was still JG's show.

Now it is KM's show, but that doesn't mean that he and SL were dealing from the same deck.

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Except the offensive philosophy clearly changed to a more a run based scheme when Linehan cane aboard. What we saw from 2014-2018 looked different than 2007-2013.

BooBooBear said:

Every article I've read after the Cowboy Giant game has in some way or 'nother denigrated Linehan while praising Moore.

If another team hired him, I'm sure the fan base would revolt.

But what about the FO's? Does this (99.9% negative) publicity remind them that he's available and maybe some will consider hiring him? Or is this harming his chances of ever working in football again?

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The fact that JG (head coach) considered taking over play calling last season is not a good look for a OC looking for work.

Future said:

Idk, there are too many posts to quote.

But, still, too much of the offensive problems are being attributed to Linehan, not JG. People forget that Linehan did a complete 180 from the way he called plays in DET when he arrived. It was still JG's show.

Now it is KM's show, but that doesn't mean that he and SL were dealing from the same deck.

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I think Garrett forced his crummy playbook on Linehan and made him produce a different result.

The problem with this team is Garrett and his lack of an understanding on how to run an offense. He can sure run the team. But I think he tries to prove to everyone that he knows how to run an offense and all evidence points to the contrary.

For all the Linehan bashing, we have to admit he did a masterful job of handling Dak as a rookie in 2016. If I recall he was getting praise all around that season.

The problem is as Dak grew into his post Linehan changed nothing. It's one thing for us fans to complain the offense was bland and predictable. It got to the point last year that Dallas' opponents started to suggest the same thing.