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Nothing says trade value like "we will move on if no trade offer"

Cowboys: "Taco for a 4th round pick or we will cut him...."
31 Teams: "Ummm, we'll just wait."
No doubt.

As a veteran player, he doesn't have to go through waivers, right?
 

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But it's easier to make that pick when the DC is also backing it. In other words, I suspect if Marinelli wanted no part of Charlton, he probably wouldn't have been picked.
I’m thinking if Will McClay wanted no part of Taco he wouldn’t be here either.
 

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In all fairness, most of his other whiffs didn't involve premium draft choices.

Since he's been with the team, here are some of the d-linemen drafted

2013: No D-linemen
2014: Demarcus Lawrence (traded up in 2nd round, cost us a 3rd) and a few 7th round scrubs in Ben Gardner and Ken Bishop
2015: Randy Gregory in the second and Ryan Russell in the 5th. Gregory obvioulsy has the talent, just a matter of staying on the field. Russell for a 5th round pick, wasn't that bad of a miss.
2016: Charles Tapper in the 4th. Would've liked more from Tapper here, but he was an okay risk for a 4th round pick.
2017: Taco Charlton in the first and Joey Ivie and Jordan Carrell in the 7th. Taco was a bad pick...really bad. Several quality players at multiple need positions taken right after him. Njoku, Watt, Baker, all would have filled immediate needs. Ivie is the one everyone gives Marenelli **** for, and I get it, his reaction to this guy who lasted all of 5 minutes is funny, but it's really not that big of a deal.
2018: No D-linemen
2019: Tyrsten Hill in the second, Joe Jackson in the 5th and Jalen Jelks in the 7th. Hill isn't off to a good start and imo, we should have drafted Juan Thornhill, but it's still early for Hill and Jackson *may* develop into something

He undoubtedly whiffed on Taco and may have missed on Hill, but most of the misses prior to this were low risk resources
0-16 coach. He sucks and should have been fired years ago
 

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I blame marinelli for not getting the most out of a player that was given to him. He's supposed to be this defensive line guru and can't have a 1st round pick make the team lol.
If he can’t play he can’t play. I’ve seen Maranelli make George Selvie look like a starter and make Jason Hatcher a pro bowler. Taco’s head ain’t in it. You can look and tell. I just chalked it up to him being young but it’s more than that. This move seems more about who he is then his play. They won’t even put him on the field.
 

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Misses happen. It's part of it. It does suck because Dallas could have picked somebody better. Yes, could you imagine TJ Watt on this team? He could be the difference maker. But just think...what if Dallas took Paxton Lynch instead of Dak Prescott? We'd be a 4-12 team. List probably goes on. It's just part of it. I'll take McClay over most. But please let Hot Rod stay away!!! No more late night hotel film sessions. Taco was worse than Bobby Carpenter because at least Carpenter played and contributed a little. Taco did neither.
 

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I don't get why Marinelli is given the blame for this one.

McClay is the scouting director. Even if Marinelli wanted Charlton, it's McClay's job to give the coaches what they need, not what they want.

Here's an article that talks about McClay being in favor of the pick over T.J. Watt:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pushing-taco-charlton-over-tj-watt-nfl-draft

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...top-draft-picks-taco-charlton-and-chid-431541

It was a misevaluation by McClay's troops. Marinelli likely wants every defensive lineman who fits his scheme. The personnel people are the ones who have to say no.
This is CowboysZone! No one cares about facts.

We attribute good moves to people we like and bad moves are the fault of someone we don’t like.
 

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And while we are blaming Marinelli, how about we question his coaching. This DL continues to be middle of the pack in getting after the QB, even after we've churned the DL a bit. If Quinn can't vault this team into another level in terms of getting after the QB, at what point do you start to question Marinelli, the DL coach?
 

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It was not a reach. He was graded in the first by almost every draft reference.

And it was reported he had a 2nd round grade from us. But we went need there because we thought there would be enough DBs later (that part seemed to be accurate).
 

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And then they can't figure out why the guy doesn't want to be there lol. We have 2 sacks on the season tied for 28th and they won't play him when he was probably our best d lineman in camp and preseason. Bunch of bum coaches with big egos it looks like.
Strange outcome.
 

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McClay wanted him too according to BryanB .


Will McClay was absolutely right. Taco is 6-6-275 with DE quickness and the ability to play every 4-3 DL position. He was 25 pounds heavier than TJ Watt and could play more positions on the DL. When giving the opportunity, he has flashed. However the Cowboys chose to waste time with unreliable players like Gregory, Irving, D-Law (who was injured or suspended his first 3 years), and now are waiting on another suspended unreliable player in Quinn to come back. Taco has never been giving a position and told we are going to play him and see what he can do during all unreliability shown by other DL.

You saw a motivated Taco play better than any of the DL not named Demarcus Lawrence when ask to showcase his talents for a trade. So this is a coaching prejudice issue and not a talent issue.

So who can blame him to want out when there is no way out (to the field)?
 

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Because first and foremost, he's long been the one who has the most input on DL. So even if McClay backed the pick, it's still heavily influenced by Marinelli. The who's and the what's we do along the DL are largely done with the blessing of Marinelli. It's why for a few years Nick Hayden runs out there as a starting DT. It's part of Marinelli's master plan where he's convinced the front office the 1T is a fungible position. They don't need any real players there, just slop that Marinelli will mold into greatness.

So sure, McClay gets blame as does Jerry because he's the one who signs off on the pick at the end. But this all starts with Marinelli and the fact he's largely crafted the organizational stance on how to address the DL.
That is why an organization has to avoid allowing coaches to have that much of a significant impact on how DL talent is evaluated.

No team should ever put themselves in to that trap because as we should all know, coaches come and go.
 

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Will McClay was absolutely right. Taco is 6-6-275 with DE quickness and the ability to play every 4-3 DL position. He was 25 pounds heavier than TJ Watt and could play more positions on the DL. When giving the opportunity, he has flashed. However the Cowboys chose to waste time with unreliable players like Gregory, Irving, D-Law (who was injured or suspended his first 3 years), and now are waiting on another suspended unreliable player in Quinn to come back. Taco has never been giving a position and told we are going to play him and see what he can do during all unreliability shown by other DL.

You saw a motivated Taco play better than any of the DL not named Demarcus Lawrence when ask to showcase his talents for a trade. So this is a coaching prejudice issue and not a talent issue.

So who can blame him to want out when there is no way out (to the field)?
Taco never played well enough to earn that position. What a joke.
 

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Will McClay was absolutely right.
Nope, he wasn't.

It's a 1990 argument in 2010s football.

McClay has made some good moves and deserves praise for them.

He also deserves criticism. If you want to avoid free agency like the plague and primarily "build through the draft", you absolutely cannot miss on 1st rounders.
 

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Will McClay was absolutely right. Taco is 6-6-275 with DE quickness and the ability to play every 4-3 DL position. He was 25 pounds heavier than TJ Watt and could play more positions on the DL. When giving the opportunity, he has flashed. However the Cowboys chose to waste time with unreliable players like Gregory, Irving, D-Law (who was injured or suspended his first 3 years), and now are waiting on another suspended unreliable player in Quinn to come back. Taco has never been giving a position and told we are going to play him and see what he can do during all unreliability shown by other DL.

You saw a motivated Taco play better than any of the DL not named Demarcus Lawrence when ask to showcase his talents for a trade. So this is a coaching prejudice issue and not a talent issue.

So who can blame him to want out when there is no way out (to the field)?
You are making some serious and laughable conclusions with this thought process.

Just because they thought he could do it doesn't mean he could. Case in point, his inability to demonstrate the exact traits that McClay mentioned, which led to him being a healthy scratch the last two games.

Plain and simple, they projected him to be able to do something he couldn't or wouldn't.

Trying to concoct some conspiracy theory about "coaching prejudice" is comical.
 

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Dang. A first round pick booted off the roster after just two full seasons and two games inactive. That is about as bustastic as you can get.

Still, landing 7 pro-bowl level players out of 9 1st round picks in the last decade is a really good average.
 
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