Review: Heath vs Giants & Skins

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I reviewed all snaps played on defense by Jeff Heath in games 1 & 2 of 2019.

I rate plays as:
Pass
Fail
Good Enough

An example of Good Enough is when it should have been a 5 yard gain but instead was a 7 yard gain but still was not enough for the opponent to get a 1st down.

For both games combined I had the following:
5 plays that were possible fails.
5 plays that were good enough.
All other plays Pass.

Of the 5 possible fails:
3 were almost identical plays. Heath made the same deliberate move each time; therefore, I can't say with 100% certainty that he was at fault.

1 play was the 59 yard run by Barkley. Heath was 15 yards back from the line at the point Barkley crossed the line of scrimmage. It was open field with only Heath between Barkley and the endzone. The probability of making the tackle is below 50% for any Safety considering that Barkley is a top 3 RB and possibly the best open field RB in the NFL. Where Heath failed was in not cutting off Barkley's path to the outside. If Heath had moved more to the outside, then Barkley would cut back inside where other defenders were located. I would still likely be a 20 plus yard gain, but it might have been less than the 59 yards. Awuzie would likely need to be in on the tackle but would obviously be much closer than than having to cross the entire field which is what actually happened on the play.

1 play was the ball hitting Heath's helmet. This play was a Pass or at worst case a Good Enough play as the pass was incomplete. Heath was looking at the WR and DB covering him & was focused on not colliding with them. It does seem odd that he didn't look up at the ball because he had been looking right at the QB until the QB started this throwing motion. It might have been funny to see for some fans but this not a fail.

The group of fans that love to complain about Heath are comical. Let's call the group Heath Haters for reference.

Nobody that I've seen is saying that Jeff Heath is a great player. We would all take a healthy Derwin James type player at Strong Safety if given the choice, but having Vander Esch at LB is more valuable than upgrading from Heath at SS.

Heath Haters as a group are comically uninformed.

I don't really understand the emotional need that people have to continually post about how much they think certain players suck.

I had a thread earlier this year called "Cowboys Safety Quiz". None of the Heath haters could show that they knew any details about the Cowboys Safeties and how the Cowboys used them in 2018 & 2017. Most didn't even know if Heath played SS or FS. None of them appear to have signed up for the NFL Game Pass to review the All-22 coaches film. Safety more than any position is difficult to evaluate based on broadcast game footage.

People that have posted dozens of times that Heath sucks can't even be bothered to review the games to see the details of what Heath does or does not do well. Most just repeat what they've heard such as "bad angles". A few have concluded that Heath lacks lateral agility. I've seen several say that Heath is too slow which is one of the most moronic statements that I've seen anywhere with regards to the Cowboys players. Heath has good speed for a Safety. That should be obvious considering that last year he chased down Barkley from behind. Heath's 4.48 forty time should also be a clue.
 

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Cliff Notes: He’s serviceable.

Reality, upgrade is long over due..

Carry on with your man crush....

And there it is...
Certain posters on here call him trash... the worst FS in the league.
Yet others reply with civility that he, in fact, is not trash and while, yes,
it is an upgradable spot, Heath is not nearly as bad as the hyperbole hate
from some fans. And what happens? They are accused of having "man crushes".

It's sad, really.
 

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heath is a good back up that can rotate in to make "assassin" plays.

thats all he is. its poor work on the FO to not have a solid starter in front of him.
 

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Pretty much.

Heath is a great team player to have for special teams, backup S and certain packages. He shouldn't be a starting SS because he's decidedly average, at best, there.


the problem is, "its clear as day" but our FO would rather be stubborn than do the right thing.
 

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Pretty much.

Heath is a great team player to have for special teams, backup S and certain packages. He shouldn't be a starting SS because he's decidedly average, at best, there.

I know that you have NOT studied game footage of Heath before forming that opinion.
 

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Fans that repeatedly exclaim "Heath Sucks" are like a kid in a classroom raising his hand to inform the teacher that he does NOT know the answer BEFORE the teacher has even asked the question. Basically the kid just wants everyone in the classroom to know he is uninformed.
 

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I reviewed all snaps played on defense by Jeff Heath in games 1 & 2 of 2019.

I rate plays as:
Pass
Fail
Good Enough

An example of Good Enough is when it should have been a 5 yard gain but instead was a 7 yard gain but still was not enough for the opponent to get a 1st down.

For both games combined I had the following:
5 plays that were possible fails.
5 plays that were good enough.
All other plays Pass.

Of the 5 possible fails:
3 were almost identical plays. Heath made the same deliberate move each time; therefore, I can't say with 100% certainty that he was at fault.

1 play was the 59 yard run by Barkley. Heath was 15 yards back from the line at the point Barkley crossed the line of scrimmage. It was open field with only Heath between Barkley and the endzone. The probability of making the tackle is below 50% for any Safety considering that Barkley is a top 3 RB and possibly the best open field RB in the NFL. Where Heath failed was in not cutting off Barkley's path to the outside. If Heath had moved more to the outside, then Barkley would cut back inside where other defenders were located. I would still likely be a 20 plus yard gain, but it might have been less than the 59 yards. Awuzie would likely need to be in on the tackle but would obviously be much closer than than having to cross the entire field which is what actually happened on the play.

1 play was the ball hitting Heath's helmet. This play was a Pass or at worst case a Good Enough play as the pass was incomplete. Heath was looking at the WR and DB covering him & was focused on not colliding with them. It does seem odd that he didn't look up at the ball because he had been looking right at the QB until the QB started this throwing motion. It might have been funny to see for some fans but this not a fail.

The group of fans that love to complain about Heath are comical. Let's call the group Heath Haters for reference.

Nobody that I've seen is saying that Jeff Heath is a great player. We would all take a healthy Derwin James type player at Strong Safety if given the choice, but having Vander Esch at LB is more valuable than upgrading from Heath at SS.

Heath Haters as a group are comically uninformed.

I don't really understand the emotional need that people have to continually post about how much they think certain players suck.

I had a thread earlier this year called "Cowboys Safety Quiz". None of the Heath haters could show that they knew any details about the Cowboys Safeties and how the Cowboys used them in 2018 & 2017. Most didn't even know if Heath played SS or FS. None of them appear to have signed up for the NFL Game Pass to review the All-22 coaches film. Safety more than any position is difficult to evaluate based on broadcast game footage.

People that have posted dozens of times that Heath sucks can't even be bothered to review the games to see the details of what Heath does or does not do well. Most just repeat what they've heard such as "bad angles". A few have concluded that Heath lacks lateral agility. I've seen several say that Heath is too slow which is one of the most moronic statements that I've seen anywhere with regards to the Cowboys players. Heath has good speed for a Safety. That should be obvious considering that last year he chased down Barkley from behind. Heath's 4.48 forty time should also be a clue.

Say what you want. I will be glade when the cowboys upgrade at both safety positions. The have experimented and monkey'd around with this position long enough.

Heath may not be the worse player but I am actually tired of this guy. He is nothing but a long time halfass just like Brandon Carr was.

I cant stand when the cowboys hold these kind of guys.
 

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And there it is...
Certain posters on here call him trash... the worst FS in the league.
Yet others reply with civility that he, in fact, is not trash and while, yes,
it is an upgradable spot, Heath is not nearly as bad as the hyperbole hate
from some fans. And what happens? They are accused of having "man crushes".

It's sad, really.

Why make a thread defending a jag if no crush? Eh....:D
 

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Heath will make some great plays every now and then, like when he stopped Carr short of the goal line against Oakland last year. But overall, he lacks awareness and anticipation in the passing game and he take poor angles in the running game. I think that's why we sometimes see a huge hold and no one any where nearby to fill it. A great safety will stuff a lot of running plays at or behind the line.
 

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Carry on making moronic statements and failing to read my entire post where I said everyone would welcome a super star SS if we had the choice.

My ADD kicked in. Or maybe it was boredom about a jag...:D
 

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Why make a thread defending a jag if no crush? Eh....:D
I keep seeing posts after posts about how bad he was in games 1 & 2 this season.

I wanted to know if I had missed something; therefore, I reviewed all of his snaps on defense in both games.

When I spend time reviewing players, I normally post the review for everyone to see.
 

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I keep seeing posts after posts about how bad he was in games 1 & 2 this season.

I wanted to know if I had missed something; therefore, I reviewed all of his snaps on defense in both games.

When I spend time reviewing players, I normally post the review for everyone to see.

Uh huh. You like his pants...:p
 

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Say what you want. I will be glade when the cowboys upgrade at both safety positions. The have experimented and monkey'd around with this position long enough.

Which scent do you prefer???



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I keep seeing posts after posts about how bad he was in games 1 & 2 this season.

I wanted to know if I had missed something; therefore, I reviewed all of his snaps on defense in both games.

When I spend time reviewing players, I normally post the review for everyone to see.


personally i think you are good at what you do on teh board. I dont have to agree with you, but its good work.
 

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Pretty much.

Heath is a great team player to have for special teams, backup S and certain packages. He shouldn't be a starting SS because he's decidedly average, at best, there.

Other than the 1 big run by Barkley, can you point out the plays in games 1 & 2 this season where he took bad angles that caused a significant gain for the opponent?
 

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personally i think you are good at what you do on teh board. I dont have to agree with you, but its good work.

I'm looking for a Heath Hater to point out his bad angles in games 1 & 2 of this season other than the 1 big run by Barkley.
 
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