Fastest Cowboy Ever? And most impressive NFL 40?

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Doesn't matter, he was still that big and did that time. When they realized he was better at pancaking people than catching footballs they switched him.
Actually it does matter by a huge margin.

NFL teams had to question why he was not playing OT instead of TE.

Without experience at OT that was going to limit his draft stock because he would obviously have to play OT in the NFL.

He was cut and put on the practice squad originally.

He became a starter in his 3rd season.

It is odd that no team used a late round pick on him but he was never going to be a top 3 rounds pick because there was too much risk in a position change type player.

Keep in mind the college knock down blocks were at TE which means mostly LBs and Safeties instead of DLinemen.

I do accept apologies when people see that they were wrong in their reply to me...
 

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Most impressive 40 to me is 4.98 by 346lb Dontari poe.

As far as Cowboys fastest
1. Bob Hayes
2. Deion
3. Alexander Right
4. Randall Williams
5. Galloway
6. Tavon Austin
7. Tyson Thompson
8. Rocket
9. Scandrick
10. Anthony Brown
Late add Isiah Stanback
 
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Actually it does matter by a huge margin.

NFL teams had to question why he was not playing OT instead of TE.

Without experience at OT that was going to limit his draft stock because he would obviously have to play OT in the NFL.

He was cut and put on the practice squad originally.

He became a starter in his 3rd season.

It is odd that no team used a late round pick on him but he was never going to be a top 3 rounds pick because there was too much risk in a position change type player.

Keep in mind the college knock down blocks were at TE which means mostly LBs and Safeties instead of DLinemen.

I do accept apologies when people see that they were wrong in their reply to me...
I have no need to apologize. My point stands: with those combine numbers, I am shocked no one took a chance on him--as you yourself said "It is odd that no team used a late round pick on him." Players with lesser potential get drafted as projects all the time. I played with a few in college. Even I had tryouts in two camps.
 

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We had a project DB recently, that was supposedly superfast...tried him on returns I think...another Tyson Thompson type, can't place the name...
Found it Teddy Williams, ran a 4.31.
 
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Awuzie just clocked the highest MPH in a game since 2017.

According to rumors, the Cowboys invited Usain Bolt to try out as a WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Usain comes to the NFL, all answers become void. Until that time, I'll take Deion against anyone. No disrespect to Bob or any older generation but I believe Deion was as fast as he wanted to be.
 

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Walker definitely belongs in the discussion.
What distance are we talking?

40 vs 100 changes the candidates.

Walker had his chances against green in the 40 but couldn't beat him. 100 would have been very interesting and I suspect different.
 

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It's not that easy. Back in Bob's day there wasn't as much competition for a gold medal. And everything was hand timed. Eye tests certainly don't mean much.

The fastest official electronic times at the combine?

1 John Ross 4.22
2 Chris Johnson 4.24

And even the combine's official times since 1999 are only "partially electronic".

Does make for an interesting conversation because there aren't clear answers...fastest player or fastest Cowboy.

Track and Field was not hand timed. I'd imagine that he did have an official time for the 40 but I have no idea what it actually is. Hayes ran with an unorthodox stride so I'd guess that his 40 time was probably not as good as you might expect. Hayes was just naturally fast, nobody worked with him to fix a lot of the issues he had with technique, like they do today.

As an FYI, Christian Coleman of Tennessee has the fastest 40 time with a 4.12, to my knowledge.
 

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Want speed? How about Mike Sherrard? The man was so fast, he broke his leg just running....twice.
 

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nah .." near" doesn't cut it ... and Deion didn't want any of that Darrell Green - that's why he never competed in NFL Fastest Man contest. (which Green regularly competed...and regularly won. :p

He gave Green a run.
 

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If Usain comes to the NFL, all answers become void. Until that time, I'll take Deion against anyone. No disrespect to Bob or any older generation but I believe Deion was as fast as he wanted to be.

Renaldo Nehemiah 2.0 version ? ..eat your heart out :confused:,

if not Bullet Hayes, could Bolt could have been a Willie Gault, Ron Brown or Phillip Epps ?
 

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Most impressive 40 to me is 4.98 by 346lb Dontari poe.

As far as Cowboys fastest
1. Bob Hayes
2. Deion
3. Alexander Right
4. Randall Williams
5. Galloway
6. Tavon Austin
7. Tyson Thompson
8. Rocket
9. Scandrick
10. Anthony Brown
Late add Isiah Stanback

Somebody on this list, needs to get bumped. TD is on this list, I know that.
 

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He was fast but he would not have easily won a gold medal. He was definitely not faster than Carl Lewis.
Carl Lewis and other sprinters are certainly faster at their top speed then any NFL player. But not sure they translates into the 40 for a lot of them. Lewis in particular was someone who pulled away in the last 30 meters.

Bullet Bob gets the nod for NFL speed for sure. He was a football player who happened to run track.
 

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1988, I tried to find the video, but it's in the semi finals. At the bottom

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ftxU0aNRAB4/VOfTxk-O_GI/AAAAAAAAAD4/wQvDtuBalzk/s1600/fastest+man.jpg
Great find. There are some amazing athletes on that list. Willie Gault made the Olympic team. Ron Brown actually ran on the gold-medal winning 4x100 Olympic team. (And IMO might be the fastest person I've seen on a football field returning kickoffs for the Rams.) Darrell Green obviously had great speed. Rod Woodson wasn't the fastest, but he was a world-class hurdler. I remember seeing him in a European meet when I was in HS.

Herschel is still underrated IMO. He was Bo before Bo only he was a much more accomplished running back... he just wasted his prime in the USFL and didn't have the same fully-cranked Nike marketing machine behind him. Saw him run at the Dallas Times Herald meet at Reuinion in a "NFL Fastest Man" event, and he won and IIRC was faster than the 60m professional sprinters... at 225 pounds.

Great throwback to a time when football players weren't afraid to compete in competitions like this. You'd never see such a thing today.
 

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Bob Hayes. And it's not close.

I was watching/reading about Hayes' 1964 Olympic performance. Track experts (at least of the Youtube variety) say he hit 28 mph - as fast as Usain Bolt - during his famous leg of the 4x100 relay, when he made up a 10-yard deficit. On a dirt track. In old-school cleats. The ones I was reading were convinced he was not only 100m champion, but maybe the fastest sprinter ever.
 

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Most impressive 40 to me is 4.98 by 346lb Dontari poe.

As far as Cowboys fastest
1. Bob Hayes
2. Deion
3. Alexander Right
4. Randall Williams
5. Galloway
6. Tavon Austin
7. Tyson Thompson
8. Rocket
9. Scandrick
10. Anthony Brown
Late add Isiah Stanback

On at least 2 occasions I saw Heath run past Scandrick and it was not in those last couple of years when Scandrick was looking old.
 
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